Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
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Just curious, but I have a question for all the parents on here who are saying they would want to know if their child is going on a play date at someones home who has a gun.
Previous to these recent gun discussions have you ever looked up the gun license list to check on the parents of kids your children associate with?
and have you ever asked someone if they had a gun in the home when your child was planning to go to their home?
This is not meant to be judgemental in any capacity, I'm genuinely curious if people have done this before.
Our school district is starting a safe homes registry. The focus is the serving of alcohol but I am pretty sure that they also restrict sign ups to people who either have no guns or will sign that they keep them in safes. Participation is voluntary but yes, I will use the registry. I may get slammed for this but I'm generally not as concerned about the homes of police officers as I am with the homes of people who did not receive decent training in the storage of their guns or who have less to lose if their gun goes off. I've been in a situation where I was told that someone's gun was locked up but it was actually within arms' reach of toddlers during a family gathering. Yet I was criticised for raising a stink about it .
that's really scary, and I don't blame you for using the list now that you know it is available.
I am curious however if mothers/fathers (I am not a mother) have asked if people have a gun in the home before their child goes there.
editted for typing to fast and making little sense.
my son is only 17 months now so I have never left him with anyone besides grandparents. DH's parents DO NOT own guns...but my mother does. When we went to visit my mom in VA, I asked her if she had her guns in the safe and she said "of course, do you really think I'd have guns lying around when my grandson is here?" I know my mom and trust her to be responsible...and my son was not left unattended at any time anyway so it wasn't a concern for me.
However, If I were to let him stay with someone when I was not watching his every move, I ABSOLUTELY would ask those types of questions re: gun ownership and safety precautions. I would have no problem asking about drugs either. There is no shame...my sons safety is a top priority and if someone takes offense to that then my son doesn't need to be there bc anyone with any common sense should understand why those questions are so important. To me, it's not awkward or rude to ask...it's good parenting.
I agree with you, it IS good parenting.
But now I'm curious... how do you bring that up in a converastion? and what makes you think they won't just lie?
"Hey you. You shoot up?"
lol, well I think it's important to build relationships first. I wouldn't let my child play without my supervision in a home of someone I knew nothing about. So, if as he got older a parent or child expressed interest in a playdate, I would want to be there the first few times to get a feel for the family, home, environment. Get to know the parents and kids and form my own opinions, look for signs as to wether I felt they were responsible in general or not. As you get to know a person a little more I think that can then open the door to a conversation like "I see my son really enjoys play dates with ___, I hope you don't mind that I have tagged along the past few times...I just think its so important to know who your children spend time with. This may seem like an odd question and I hope you don't take offense...but just for safety's sake... do you own or keep guns in the home? I only ask because my son is very inquisitive and he gets into EVERYTHING...nowadays you hear stories about kids getting ahold of drugs and guns and it's so scary!" Then I'd just see where the conversation goes and take it from there I guess.
as for lying...it's very possible that can happen...and it does. But, I think building relationships beforehand can really really help to reduce any risks of that happening. I also have a pretty open mind...I'm not against guns...I'm just against my son having access to them...so as the person also got to know me and my view on guns and that I am not against them or going to judge them...maybe they would be more inclined to be honest about it.
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Re: Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
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I know we are all reeling from what happened and looking for somewhere to point the finger and somehow to prevent this horror from happening again but, I personally don't think this is the way.
Sandy Hook aside, I've been for gun control for a very long time. I also think shotguns, etc need to be regulated too.
I think the website was created to provoke discussion but I don't think it is a bad thing. I'm all for accessibility for public info.
I understand that people won't all agree on the topic of gun control. I also understand the concern many people have. However, I personally was not raised to fear guns. Rather I was taught to respect their power and the seriousness of the repercussions of using guns without 100% responsibility and maturity.
I originally said I was for an automatic weapons ban bc I myself, while pro 2nd amendment didn't see the need for any citizen to shoot that many bullets per second. However, I'm starting to even question an assault ban at all. Not because I think it would be wonderful for people to walk around willy nilly with automatic weapons...but bc I don't believe it will be effective. Also, the 2nd amendment was VERY specific in it's mention that the peoples right to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. The reason for this was due to tyrannical government. I know it seems like FOREVER ago...but tell that to a holocaust survivor. People before us fought hard for us to have the freedom we have, freedom like no other in the world. I refuse to sit here and act like it was SOOOO long ago that these atrocities of government occurred and therefore the 2nd amendment is archaic, because it wasn't long ago at all. And until the president can walk around without automatic assault weapons protecting him and his family, and the nations GOLD, I will not shut up about the right to protect my family and all that we have worked hard for. I don't own a gun currently, but I have a right to should I choose to do so. I have been discussing it with DH more and more.
Those who cannot remember history are doomed to repeat it.
I don't expect people to change their views or opinions...but I really really hope everyone will watch this and at least gain a new perspective...maybe:
but anyway, yeah...back to the original topic. Public records...what if someone posted your address, and that you had a child of X age living at the residence. Would you be ok with that being posted in a newspaper? Because I CERTAINLY would not. As of right now...the 2nd amendment is still VERY MUCH in effect and therefore posting these peoples info in a newspaper article during a time when the gun debate has reached a head is serving what purpose exactly? besides attempting to target and shame LAW ABIDING citizens and treating them like sex offenders?
sorry PP, I know i quoted you and it might sound like I'm angry...it's not directed @ you...just used your comment as my little platform LOL and the way that this newspaper went about whatever the hell agenda they were trying to accomplish really really upsets me bc it's not fair...these people have done NOTHING WRONG.
ok, I think I'm done venting now
wow, comparing better gun control to what Hitler did? Comparing the drug cartels in Mexico to better gun laws here? I got 2 minutes into that video and had to shake my head.
And no I don't think it's a good idea to make it easier for criminals to gain access to information but the guns that were used in the Sandy Hook killings were legally obtained registered weapons.
And no the gun laws are not good enough.
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