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mrsmck
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Here's an article from Library Journal
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Also I said "ON" not "UP"
on, up, in out, whatever I was nowhere near her azz
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PFFTTtttt.... Bwahhhhh Hah......
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| Posted 9/3/08 8:06 PM |
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JenniferEver
The Disney Lady
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by mrsej
Posted by jerseypanda
Posted by mrsej
Posted by JenniferEver
Just because the editorial page of a paper is very tilted in one direction, does not necessarily mean that the reporting is similarly biased.
The New York Times is one of the most respected publications in the world.
No offense, but are you out of your mind? The NYT is known as being totally left-winged and biased.
That seems a little harsh to say to another poster if you ask me. It's one thing to respectfully disagree with someone's opinion, but another to ask if they are out of their mind for having their own opinion.
I think Jennifer is ok - my comment was quite tame compared to some of the other recent comments on politics - Jennifer I am sorry I offended and the NY times!
I was personally quite shocked by your comments. 
There is no such thing as an unbiased source of anything. Just choosing what to print is a bias. While the NYT editorial page is left leaning, I don't think you can assume that the reporting will have a liberal bias. I think you always need to consider the source, but I think compared to the other NY papers, it's pretty UNbiased. I also would not question stated facts about Republican candidates because it came from a "liberal source."The NYT is a lot more respected than, say, the Post.
I just don't see it that way. I think in general, the reporting is strong and factual, and considers alternative points of view. When I watch MSNBC or listen to Air America, I would think "well this is a left-leaning source", I just personally don't see the NYT in that light.
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| Posted 9/3/08 8:09 PM |
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tommy2
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by vmac
wow!
I don't see why Ophelia can't post about Palin all day long. Don't open it if you don't like it.
BTW, I totally agree, this woman scares me. I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs either way. I feel like they are disconnected with our society.
Read up on Black Liberation Theology and then talk to me about radical LOL. In case u didnt know thats what your boys church is all about.
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| Posted 9/3/08 9:18 PM |
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dm24angel
Happiness
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
I appreciate all these posts actually....I want to hear details about all the candidates, every detail.
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| Posted 9/3/08 9:53 PM |
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Palebride
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Thank you! Not that I needed another reason NOT to vote for McCain....but it gives me something to debate with my dad (who is planning to vote for him)!!
And as an English teacher, it horrifies me.
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| Posted 9/3/08 10:10 PM |
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vmac
Mommy VMac
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by tommy2
Posted by vmac
wow!
I don't see why Ophelia can't post about Palin all day long. Don't open it if you don't like it.
BTW, I totally agree, this woman scares me. I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs either way. I feel like they are disconnected with our society.
Read up on Black Liberation Theology and then talk to me about radical LOL. In case u didnt know thats what your boys church is all about.
WOAH!!!! Time out!
I have read your responses on several posts and your assumptions are just downright ridiculous!
I did not say I was voting for Obama.
When it comes to social issues, I am not at all aligned with the McCain/Palin Ticket. Mainly because I find their rhetoric on these topics to be outdated.
To me, anyone male or female that would put their 17 year old daughter going through what is most likely the most challenging time of her life in front of the WORLD for a career move is disgusting to me.
Let's not assume that I'm uneducated about either candidate. I have not assumed that of you.
I am aware of Obama's religious past and I will make my decision based on ALL of the facts.
Your repeated condescending remarks are towards anyone with a positive democratic point of view are uncalled for.
ETA: I said that "I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs EITHER WAY." I'm not really sure why then you would think that Obama was "my boy."
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OStewarts
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
wow, she is a pretty tough woman. I thought she really went in for the kill with obama...
iron fist in a velvet glove.
Message edited 9/3/2008 11:49:49 PM.
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| Posted 9/3/08 11:10 PM |
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tommy2
LIF Infant
Member since 3/08 193 total posts
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by vmac
Posted by tommy2
Posted by vmac
wow!
I don't see why Ophelia can't post about Palin all day long. Don't open it if you don't like it.
BTW, I totally agree, this woman scares me. I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs either way. I feel like they are disconnected with our society.
Read up on Black Liberation Theology and then talk to me about radical LOL. In case u didnt know thats what your boys church is all about.
WOAH!!!! Time out!
I have read your responses on several posts and your assumptions are just downright ridiculous!
I did not say I was voting for Obama.
When it comes to social issues, I am not at all aligned with the McCain/Palin Ticket. Mainly because I find their rhetoric on these topics to be outdated.
To me, anyone male or female that would put their 17 year old daughter going through what is most likely the most challenging time of her life in front of the WORLD for a career move is disgusting to me.
Let's not assume that I'm uneducated about either candidate. I have not assumed that of you.
I am aware of Obama's religious past and I will make my decision based on ALL of the facts.
Your repeated condescending remarks are towards anyone with a positive democratic point of view are uncalled for.
ETA: I said that "I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs EITHER WAY." I'm not really sure why then you would think that
Obama was "my boy."
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Which response im curious? whats so radical about her? she lives in Alaska not L.I. remember.
Funny how admirable Joe Biden is considered. He lost his wife and child and was left a single father. but he decided to continue on with his careeer. Why should she have to stop
And i did miss the Either Way part 
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vmac
Mommy VMac
Member since 8/07 1860 total posts
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by tommy2
Posted by vmac
Posted by tommy2
Posted by vmac
wow!
I don't see why Ophelia can't post about Palin all day long. Don't open it if you don't like it.
BTW, I totally agree, this woman scares me. I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs either way. I feel like they are disconnected with our society.
Read up on Black Liberation Theology and then talk to me about radical LOL. In case u didnt know thats what your boys church is all about.
WOAH!!!! Time out!
I have read your responses on several posts and your assumptions are just downright ridiculous!
I did not say I was voting for Obama.
When it comes to social issues, I am not at all aligned with the McCain/Palin Ticket. Mainly because I find their rhetoric on these topics to be outdated.
To me, anyone male or female that would put their 17 year old daughter going through what is most likely the most challenging time of her life in front of the WORLD for a career move is disgusting to me.
Let's not assume that I'm uneducated about either candidate. I have not assumed that of you.
I am aware of Obama's religious past and I will make my decision based on ALL of the facts.
Your repeated condescending remarks are towards anyone with a positive democratic point of view are uncalled for.
ETA: I said that "I have a hard time believing in people with such radical beliefs EITHER WAY." I'm not really sure why then you would think that
Obama was "my boy."
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Which response im curious? whats so radical about her? she lives in Alaska not L.I. remember.
Funny how admirable Joe Biden is considered. He lost his wife and child and was left a single father. but he decided to continue on with his careeer. Why should she have to stop
And i did miss the Either Way part
I don't see how Joe Biden's wife and daughter passing away in a car accident and a teenage pregnancy are the same thing.
In our society, right or wrong, a teen pregnancy is a shameful thing. While I am very supportive Palin's daughters decison to have this child and get married if that's truly what's best for her family. I would not want my child pushed into the American media while she was pregnant at 17. The media is ruthless and I would never want my child to have to deal with that during an especially hard time.
Joe Biden is a Senator and Sarah Palin is running for Vice President. They are two very different jobs.
I would happily vote for a female candidate if I was overall impressed with that candidate. I am not at all with Palin.
I am also not thrilled about the Democratic ticket. But that's a whole other issue.
I will leave it at that. We obviously disagree, but that's why I love this country.
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LittleBlueBug
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Personally, I think the OP is entitled to her opinion, and should be allowed to post it w/ out flaming. I personally do not see this as such an important issue that it would sway me one way or another. Everyone has issues that are important to them. I don't think she is going to do a national book burning any time soon, so I will stick w/ issues like the economy and such.
However, as someone who is undecided, I do appreciate educational posts about the candidate as long as:
1) they are relevant
2) come from a good reliable source
3) don't involve their personal lives (I mean if they were a drug dealer who pimped sheeps or something like that...well, I'd want to know)
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| Posted 9/3/08 11:51 PM |
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dandr10199
Grace is growing up too fast!
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by OStewarts
wow, she is a pretty tough woman. I thought she really went in for the kill with obama...
iron fist in a velvet glove.
Gotta love that! Like every other woman CEO.
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| Posted 9/4/08 12:05 AM |
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Kara
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
Posted by tommy2
Funny how admirable Joe Biden is considered. He lost his wife and child and was left a single father. but he decided to continue on with his careeer. Why should she have to stop
And i did miss the Either Way part
Joe Biden's family is not without its share of controversy these days. It's just not getting as much press / discussion as Palin's family:
By Kimberly Kindy and Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 24, 2008
A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.), Democratic Vice-Presidential candidate, are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a suspect hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.
The Democratic vice presidential candidate’s son Hunter, 38, and brother James, 59, assert instead that their former partner defrauded them by misrepresenting his experience in the hedge fund industry and recommending that they hire a lawyer with felony convictions.
The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden’s involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.
A lawsuit filed by their former partner Anthony Lotito Jr. asserts in court papers that the deal was crafted to get Hunter Biden out of lobbying because his father was concerned about the impact it would have on his bid for the White House. Biden was running for the Democratic nomination at the time the suit was filed.
Hunter Biden was made president with an annual salary of $1.2 million, despite his inexperience in the hedge fund industry, the lawsuit said. Before that, he had been part of the Washington law firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, which earned $1.76 million in lobbying revenue in the first half of 2006, according to Congressional Quarterly’s CQ MoneyLine. One of its biggest clients is the National Association of Shareholder and Consumer Attorneys, a District-based group representing law firms specializing in investment and corporate law.
Hunter Biden is one of many children and relatives of prominent members of Congress who have made their careers as lobbyists. He returned to lobbying after less than a year with Paradigm.
Lotito’s lawsuit alleges that James Biden called him in January 2006 to arrange a job for Hunter Biden. It says James Biden told him that his brother (Sen. Biden) “was concerned with the impact that Hunter’s lobbying activities might have on his expected campaign for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination,” and, “Biden told Lotito that, in light of these concerns, his brother had asked him to seek Lotito’s assistance in finding employment for Hunter in a non-lobbying capacity.”
Lotito does not provide any direct evidence of the senator’s involvement and offers no witnesses to the assertion.
The campaign of Sens. Barack Obama and Biden declined to comment on the case, referring questions to Nicholas Gravante Jr., a lawyer representing Hunter and James Biden. Gravante said assertions that Joseph Biden told his brother he was concerned about his son’s lobbying are “absolutely false.”
“This lawsuit has nothing to do with Joe Biden, and there is absolutely no truth to those allegations,” Gravante said. “It is a business dispute between former partners. The suit is baseless.”
Brian C. Wille, an attorney for Lotito, said the lawsuit alleges no wrongdoing by Sen. Biden, only that his concerns set in motion the business deal.
“There was a concern that Hunter Biden’s role as a lobbyist would have an impact on the senator’s proposed presidential run,” Wille said. “That’s what James Biden told Mr. Lotito. . . . Was it true? Who knows? There is no allegation the senator was involved in any of these events.”
In an affidavit, Hunter Biden said his father had nothing to do with the deal and that it is Lotito who swindled the Bidens.
He said Lotito lied about being a “fully licensed and accredited securities professional” with hedge fund experience.
In addition, he said Lotito recommended a lawyer to vet the business deal who was under investigation and was ultimately convicted on several felony charges of conspiracy and wire and mail fraud in a scheme to steal millions from a computer company.
In the hedge fund business deal, Lotito and the Bidens created a company called LLB Holdings USA and together agreed to pay $21.3 million for 54 percent interest in Paradigm.
In the lawsuit, Lotito said that soon after creating LLB, the Bidens crafted a “secret deal” to create their own company that was designed to buy out his shares in Paradigm for a low rate, to which he agreed. He said he knew nothing of the secret deal until later and now believes he was defrauded out of millions of dollars and his share in the company.
In the second lawsuit against the Bidens, which was filed in June, Lotito is also named as a defendant. Stephane Farouze, now an executive with Deutsche Bank, seeks $10 million, saying the Bidens and Lotito promised to buy his shares in the hedge fund company but reneged.
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Emily
Kasey & Me! Lurves it!
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Re: Number 2 reason I cannot vote for Palin
I don't care what she stands for...I am just pizzed off that she is not from Cicely, Alaska where my favorite show of all time was. Northern Exposure rocked! 
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