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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.
This is the result.
If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.
And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.
Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?
A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).
Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.
We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.
The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.
Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!
Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?
Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.
I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.
But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.
Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.
Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?
My husband's job is requiring vaccinations to work in the office, all employees, not just new hires. Those allowed to work from home need an approved reason too and not just because they do not want to get the vaccine.
but, that's a private company, right?
Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying, that's not the City or State requiring him to do, it's his company policy.
See, I feel like if a private company decides on it's own to mandate anything, that's their prerogative. What I'm taking issue with is the city FORCING private businesses to mandate something when the private business may not want to.
If a restaurant says, we only want vaccinated people in here, fine, they can do that.
But if they don't want to do that, they shouldn't be forced.
That is what I have issue with.
We are not in the city (but all of NY is probably going to follow suit - especially on the island) we will NOT force our employees to be vaccinated nor will we deny service to the unvaccinated. If there are fine, they’ll be fining a boat load of small businesses and we’ll be spending any free time we have fighting it in court.
We reopened during the height of all of this. We had masks, we did a lot of drop offs and pick ups outside, we had deep cleaning every couple of hours and were able to keep everyone safe (DH and I got it either from my dentist appt or from his asymptomatic mom - though his mom tested + after us- we’ll never truly know)
If it gets that bad again, we’ll just go back to that. This is maddening
I feel for you. I cannot imaging being in your position after working so hard to build your business and what has gone on this past year, and now this.
And I would 100% support any small business who takes a stand like you are describing. In fact I would go out of my way to support a business like that over another. And I know many others would as well.
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Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Who thinks this is going to backfire on NYC businesses.....maybe even the city itself? I see protests or walkout in the future.......
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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What about kids under age 12? And, the vaccine technically isn't even fully approved! This is ridiculous!
So tired of seeing the not approved thing. It's been approved for the use it's been being used for. What's the alternative? Wait 5 years and then be fully approved to administer and we live life in lockdown until then?
How about the FDA approves it? Why are they stalling? That doesn't worry you?
Exactly was saying this today with my husband. the crazy push for everyone to be vaccinated, FDA hasn't approved and they have not approved for under 10.....and people don't question any of this
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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Who thinks this is going to backfire on NYC businesses.....maybe even the city itself? I see protests or walkout in the future.......
I see a lot of businesses suing the city like the gyms did.
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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What about kids under age 12? And, the vaccine technically isn't even fully approved! This is ridiculous!
So tired of seeing the not approved thing. It's been approved for the use it's been being used for. What's the alternative? Wait 5 years and then be fully approved to administer and we live life in lockdown until then?
How about the FDA approves it? Why are they stalling? That doesn't worry you?
Exactly was saying this today with my husband. the crazy push for everyone to be vaccinated, FDA hasn't approved and they have not approved for under 10.....and people don't question any of this
Nope and they tell breastfeeding women to get vaccinated. It’s not allowed for kids under 12 but lets recommend it for newborns and infants.
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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Another reason why i loathe NY and hope and pray my DH can get us out of here one day.
So now we officially entered the new Communist regime. And these Liberals are so against segregation and thats the new plan?! SMH. What a joke.
Calling this segregation is laughable.
White (and lets see how quickly you say, I'm not white LOL) people who think "segregation" applies here really makes me question their intelligence. It shows people lack nuance and understanding of critical situations. I say, leave NY We'll be better off without ya!
How about you look up the definition.
Whats does segregation mean?
noun. the act or practice of segregating; a setting apart or separation of people or things from others or from the main body or group
And trust me, i would leave this $hithole state in a heartbeat if i could
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by JDandMe
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by BFNY516
1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.
This is the result.
If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.
And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.
Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?
A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).
Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.
We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.
The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.
Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!
Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?
Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.
I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.
But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.
As much as 20% of the entire workforce is predicted to have a new job post pandemic. They are calling it the "great resignation". And it has nothing to do with vaccination status. People will be changing jobs, many of them for better and more fruitful opportunities. Nobody is forcing anything and if you just sit back and take a look there could be even better opportunities out there with companies that are forced to offer more flexible arrangements because they lost good people.
Besides NYC employees aren't forced to get the vaccine. Can't they just test weekly? What's the big deal with getting tested? It sucks if you have a condition that makes getting a vaccine difficult, but it is equally sucky when a vaccinated person with other pre-existing conditions is forced to collaborate and mingle with somebody refusing to get the vaccine. Works both ways unfortunately.
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
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Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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I’m all for it. It’s simple to me. You get vaccinated and decrease the risk of your death. You may still get it and transmit it but you keep your life. You keep your mother, husband, son, colleague, friend. You may never know who specifically but eventually someone in your life will be alive because they got the vaccine. That’s it. We can talk rights and choice and big bad Cuomo but most of us want the same thing. We want less people to die.
Well put
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by MrsWoods
Posted by mrsrainbow
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Another reason why i loathe NY and hope and pray my DH can get us out of here one day.
So now we officially entered the new Communist regime. And these Liberals are so against segregation and thats the new plan?! SMH. What a joke.
Calling this segregation is laughable.
White (and lets see how quickly you say, I'm not white LOL) people who think "segregation" applies here really makes me question their intelligence. It shows people lack nuance and understanding of critical situations. I say, leave NY We'll be better off without ya!
How about you look up the definition.
Whats does segregation mean?
noun. the act or practice of segregating; a setting apart or separation of people or things from others or from the main body or group
And trust me, i would leave this $hithole state in a heartbeat if i could
I put up the definition and got crickets.
I think most people ARE planning to leave eventually. There is nothing here anymore worth the money and time.
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NervousNell
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
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whoababy11
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
Nope. Most of you are morons.
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Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
I've started wearing masks in stores again
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
Nope. Most of you are morons.
Or more likely you're ignorant.
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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I've started wearing masks in stores again
I've noticed a lot more mask wearing these past two weeks.
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
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Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
Nope. Most of you are morons.
Or more likely you're ignorant.
That may be so. OR, it may be that people who refuse to be vaccinated, who have every opportunity in the world to protect themselves, their families, their communities, country and planet are complete and total morons. Spouting nonsense and ******** and disinformation like the people on this board. Vaccinated America has had it with all of you. You’re stupid, selfish and yes, moronic.
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| Posted 8/3/21 7:56 PM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
Member since 11/09 54921 total posts
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
Nope. Most of you are morons.
Or more likely you're ignorant.
That may be so. OR, it may be that people who refuse to be vaccinated, who have every opportunity in the world to protect themselves, their families, their communities, country and planet are complete and total morons. Spouting nonsense and ******** and disinformation like the people on this board. Vaccinated America has had it with all of you. You’re stupid, selfish and yes, moronic.
And you're clearly an asshole so we're even.
Message edited 8/3/2021 7:59:08 PM.
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| Posted 8/3/21 7:58 PM |
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jellybean78
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
Nope. Most of you are morons.
Or more likely you're ignorant.
That may be so. OR, it may be that people who refuse to be vaccinated, who have every opportunity in the world to protect themselves, their families, their communities, country and planet are complete and total morons. Spouting nonsense and ******** and disinformation like the people on this board. Vaccinated America has had it with all of you. You’re stupid, selfish and yes, moronic.
Nah you're just an ignorant asshole. People like you are clowns..
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MrsWoods
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Member since 4/12 1461 total posts
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by whoababy11
Posted by Deeluvsvinny
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ave1024
People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.
And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.
Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.
No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.
100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.
Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?
80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?
When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.
The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.
It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.
*It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.*
THIS is the part the unvaccinated refuse to believe for some reason. It's mind boggling!
Probably because most of them
are morons
Honestly, I haven't said much, but that comment was uncalled for. You have NO idea why people aren't vaccinated. You have no idea their reasons.
Calling people who didn't jump to take a brand new vaccine morons without knowing anything about their medical background or reasons for hesitancy only makes you sound like the moron.
That was completely offensive. You have no idea the reason my doctor recommended I wait.
What a nasty, derisive comment.
People like you are the reason there is such a divide lately.
People like her don't want to know as they just want to be right. If maybe they knew why people did things they would be more open and not so closed minded.
Nope. Most of you are morons.
Or more likely you're ignorant.
That may be so. OR, it may be that people who refuse to be vaccinated, who have every opportunity in the world to protect themselves, their families, their communities, country and planet are complete and total morons. Spouting nonsense and ******** and disinformation like the people on this board. Vaccinated America has had it with all of you. You’re stupid, selfish and yes, moronic.
Look who got her big girl panties on ....behind a computer 
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Damn, another one who wants to join the mean girls club.
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| Posted 8/3/21 8:22 PM |
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LiveItUp
Love my babies!
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Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
So does that mean children under 12 won't be allowed in stores and restaurants? We were planning to take our kids to the city at the end of August. Dh and I are vaccinated. Obviously our kids are not because they are not old enough. Will it be pointless for us to go if our kids can't go inside anywhere?
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| Posted 8/3/21 9:27 PM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
Member since 11/09 54921 total posts
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by LiveItUp
So does that mean children under 12 won't be allowed in stores and restaurants? We were planning to take our kids to the city at the end of August. Dh and I are vaccinated. Obviously our kids are not because they are not old enough. Will it be pointless for us to go if our kids can't go inside anywhere?
I don't think it will start being enforced until September so you should be ok regardless in August
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| Posted 8/3/21 9:30 PM |
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ali120206
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LiveItUp
So does that mean children under 12 won't be allowed in stores and restaurants? We were planning to take our kids to the city at the end of August. Dh and I are vaccinated. Obviously our kids are not because they are not old enough. Will it be pointless for us to go if our kids can't go inside anywhere?
I don't think it will start being enforced until September so you should be ok regardless in August
Yes it doesn’t start until the first day of school so you will be good.
I understand having businesses decide if they want to let it unvaccinated but for places and events to not even have a testing option, when not everyone is even eligible for the vaccine, baffles me.
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