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Obama's new "forclosure fix" plan

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Re: Obama's new "forclosure fix" plan

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I was listening to NPR yesterday and the woman made an excellent point. She did her research and can afford her mortgage - would it make her feel better if the guy down the block was homeless with his three kids as "punishment" for taking on a mortgage he couldnt afford? Probably not. . .




so true.



i agree



of course. that is the problem. how long do we allow people to drown just to "punish" them.

I mean, the short answer is simple....if we do nothing and help no one, everyone's home value will suffer when foreclosures go through the roof (no pun intended) when the homeless population explodes, when the applications for medicaid and medicare increase exponentially.

these things are already happening. this plan is far from perfect...but how do you helps millions of people on a direct level?

we all pay for each others missteps in a myriad of ways...from car insurance to health insurance to social security to anything else that involves the individual effecting the whole.

I am so sick of the holier-than-thou I did the "right" thing bit. it is the WORST problem solving idea under the sun.

most people did what they thought was right and good at the time. most people trust institutions like banks, and people with authority. this has been proven with psychological testing up the wazoo.

I just pray that people's lives will be changed for the better b/c of this.

and am ever more grateful that thus far, our life decisions had left us on secure ground. that doesn't make us better than anyone else, it just makes us lucky. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



Luck is finding $10 on the street.

Doing your research and making reasonable decisions is part of being a responsible adult.




NO - luck is keeping your job when others just as good as you or better are being laid off left and right and are now living off the $ they DID bust their butts to save so they can pay their mortgage.



Yeah, luck got me though college and grad school.

Silly me, I thought it was hard work and sacrifice.




Am I reading this right? Are you saying that colloge and grad school will keep you from losing your job???? If yes, then mabye you have been living in a bubble b/c there were TONS of hard hard hard working people with college and MBA's from TOP schools at Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros and all the countless other banks still in business that fired people - not to mention the 800 plus lawyers at top firms that were let go a few weeks ago - Yes, I b/v the poster was right in saying in this current economy it is LUCK to keep your job! If you think otherwise than you are clearly not paying attention to the world around you!

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Posted 2/20/09 4:41 PM
 
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Re: Obama's new "forclosure fix" plan

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I just want to know where is my "reward" for doing my research, understanding the terms of my mortgage and paying on time each month. It just doesn't seem fair sometimes that when you play by the rules you get screwedChat Icon



You are absolutely right!!!!



How are you getting screwed? You have your house, and you are secure in it now right? That is your reward for doing your research.




Maybe because some of us that still have our house put down fat down payments of 20% of more to see their equity go down. We also did our research on interest rates and got a nice low rate on a fixed 30yr loan.

So instead of 80% LTV we are probably at 90 or 95% LTV. So what are we getting? Absolutely jack ****.

This housing bailout plan is a joke. If the government wants to "modify" loans for people that didn't do their research and got stuck with stupid adjustable rate and interest only loans, fine. But they better not be forgiving principals on existing loans.

I'll be VERY ****** if they do something like this: Person takes out a 400k mortgage, on a house that was worth 420k. Fast forward a year later and the morgage is down to 398k but the house is now worth 350k and the person can't make their payments. The feds decide to allow this person to keep their house by modifying their loan AND reducing the loan amount to 350k. That would make my blood boil.

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Re: Obama's new "forclosure fix" plan

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Posted by snowbunny

Yeah, luck got me though college and grad school.

Silly me, I thought it was hard work and sacrifice.




Am I reading this right? Are you saying that colloge and grad school will keep you from losing your job???? If yes, then mabye you have been living in a bubble b/c there were TONS of hard hard hard working people with college and MBA's from TOP schools at Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros and all the countless other banks still in business that fired people - not to mention the 800 plus lawyers at top firms that were let go a few weeks ago - Yes, I b/v the poster was right in saying in this current economy it is LUCK to keep your job! If you think otherwise than you are clearly not paying attention to the world around you!



thank you! i totally get that some people are feeling slighted because they work their azzes off and made sure they didn't bite off more than they could chew. but there ARE a lot of families who bought houses BEFORE this recession - how in the WORLD could they have known that in a few short months or years they would have no job, no money, and be forced to sell their home or face foreclosure?

and of course we can blame people for taking on a mortgage they can't afford, with little to no money down - but like Ophelia said, the BANKS should be responsible for telling people that no, on your salary, you can't afford to pay off a mortgage like that. i mean i have been reading about people who make $1400 a month getting mortgages for $500,000 homes - the payment is something ridiculous like $4500 a month now. obviously no one would take on a mortgage payment like that when it's spelled out like that - i feel like these people were "tricked" into these ARMs.

so snowbunny, i am SO glad that you have a good education but NONE of us is immune to this economy. i sure hope no one you know is ever forced out into the street - i have a feeling they would be getting no sympathy from you. Chat Icon

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Re: Obama's new "forclosure fix" plan

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This housing bailout plan is a joke. If the government wants to "modify" loans for people that didn't do their research and got stuck with stupid adjustable rate and interest only loans, fine. But they better not be forgiving principals on existing loans.

I'll be VERY ****** if they do something like this: Person takes out a 400k mortgage, on a house that was worth 420k. Fast forward a year later and the morgage is down to 398k but the house is now worth 350k and the person can't make their payments. The feds decide to allow this person to keep their house by modifying their loan AND reducing the loan amount to 350k. That would make my blood boil.




I completely agree.

Posted 2/20/09 5:15 PM
 

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Re: Obama's new "forclosure fix" plan

Posted by longford73

I just want to know where is my "reward" for doing my research, understanding the terms of my mortgage and paying on time each month. It just doesn't seem fair sometimes that when you play by the rules you get screwedChat Icon



Then consider yourself fortunate! Chat Icon

Not all people went into property buying thinking that in 3/5 years with their arm terms they would be in the situation they are now. Yes some stretched themselves too thin. But some never anticipated paying $1000 more a month on a mortgage. For some people, there is no coming back. Especially if you bring home a combined income of $50-$60K. It's not just about you or me or people who still manage or just about NYC, NJ or LI. It's about people who could no longer afford their increasing interest, people whose spouse lost their job and they can't pay.

When the economy was doing great several years ago, people bought their house NEVER thinking of what could be.

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