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OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

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MrsFlatbread
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OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Okay...I have come to terms with the fact that my son is spoiled. I think it's my fault. He has no problem being by himself or sleeping in his crib while he is at daycare, but when he gets home...he's all about screaming and crying until I pick him up. Friday night we were determined to do the cry it out. He fell asleep after his bottle like normal and we then put him in his crib with no problem. After 15 minutes he woke up and realized that he was not in bed with us. The tantrum started and went on and on and on.

My dilemma is the fact that he can pull himself up and cruise in his crib, howwever, this is a very recent skill and he is still unstable on his feet and has not learned how to fall without hurting himself. I took the bumpers out for saftey and Asthma reasons. My concerns is that he will fall against the crib during these tantrums and hurt himself. Of course after 20 minutes and several falls, I just couldn't take it anymore. I was crazy about him hurting himself. What do I do? I cannot take this anymore. I feel liike my son is the way he is, because of me.Chat Icon Help with any advice.

Posted 7/20/09 9:10 AM
 
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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

What does he do if you are in the room. Can you lay him down and pat him or rub his back and just keep doing it until he falls asleep?

Posted 7/20/09 9:32 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

i tend to feel like staying in the room with them while theyre freaking out only makes it worse in alot of cases..at least it did for my ds..
my ds sttn by 8 weeks, but regressed BIGTIME at 8 months old, and we had to do ferber/cio..similar to your ds, he was just learning to get up himself and get around, very clumsily..and i felt just like you..
quiet honestly? I think once they figure out how to get around like that, after alil while (maybe a week or two more) he'll be a pro at it..
i would not try CIO until youre ready to commit to it again *after hes alil more stable on his feet* only because if you "half-way" it..hes gonna be confused even more..
give him one more week maybe of cruising around, and then try CIO again if youre comfortable with it..if done consistently, hopefully after a few days he'll be sleeping the nite away in his crib Chat Icon

good luck!!

Posted 7/20/09 9:44 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

What I did is I would go into his nursery and calm him down, lay him back down and rub his back, and lay on the floor next to him till he went back to sleep. We ended up sleeping in the nursery with him for a good week. That way, when he woke up in his crib he saw us there and didn't freak out. Then he stopped waking up all together and slept through. I was a CIO drop out but felt like this modified method worked for us. GOOD LUCK!!!!!

Posted 7/20/09 10:12 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

They learn pretty quickly how to get themselves down. After 2 nights of going in to help Eliza down, I finally said, "ENOUGH!" and just let her cry. She figured how to get herself down.

I don't think she had ever fallen. Even if she did, it wouldn't be a hard enough bump to cause an injury.

Posted 7/20/09 10:19 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

DS bumps his head on his aquarium all the time Chat Icon

i still have the bumpers in but if he is on his knees, he can still hit his head on the bars.

he's never hurt himself badly and rarely cries anymore when we put him to bed.

he is also in a sleep sack so he can't pull himself up to stand. is that an option for you?

Posted 7/20/09 10:22 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Have you tried putting him down before he falls asleep?

Posted 7/20/09 10:47 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

I just posted about this, my DS is 10 months and I have the same issue. he has a major tantrum standing up, screaming mama dada he doesn't give up so I give in. I feel your pain anddon'thave a clue right now! we have def. spoiled DS , it's out of control nowChat Icon

How old is your DS?

Posted 7/20/09 10:50 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

I too have a spoiled baby and can not do CIO. We found it easier to just let her stay in our bed

Posted 7/20/09 10:56 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Posted by chikita315

Have you tried putting him down before he falls asleep?



yes...but he is a monster and will immediately pull himself up despite my attepmts to soothe him...he is the devil!!!Chat Icon

Posted 7/20/09 11:04 AM
 

MrsFlatbread
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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Posted by JandJ1224

I too have a spoiled baby and can not do CIO. We found it easier to just let her stay in our bed



yes...but we want DS to have a sibling soon!Chat Icon

Posted 7/20/09 11:04 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Posted by lovemy2boys

I just posted about this, my DS is 10 months and I have the same issue. he has a major tantrum standing up, screaming mama dada he doesn't give up so I give in. I feel your pain anddon'thave a clue right now! we have def. spoiled DS , it's out of control nowChat Icon

How old is your DS?



9 months on friday

Posted 7/20/09 11:05 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

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is that an option for you?



I doubt it. What size do they go up too? DS is in 18 months

Posted 7/20/09 11:06 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

I would try putting him on his belly and rubbing his back. That's what I did with DD at that age.

Posted 7/20/09 11:07 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

DD is also pulling herself and cruising on everything now. She's falling a lot too, and has hit her head a couple of times. I don't have bumpers in her crib, and it frightens me too, but now she's learned how to fall so when she falls, she just falls on her butt for the most part. She's also standing with more balance and not falling as much. There were quite a few head bumps along the way, but she is fine. Did you drop the crib all the way down? I found this helped a bit because it limited her ability to get around the crib cruising. She can still stand, but it's a higher reach so she doesn't cruise as much in the crib, and by the time she's tall enough for that, I think she'll have good enough balance where she won't be falling.

As far as CIO, it's been a real battle for us too. My rule is the first half to three quarters of the night she has to stay in her crib. It's awful sometimes and she can cry a lot. But I now don't take her in our bed until at least 3:30/4, or so. Most nights, once we make it past 11, she is fine til 6:30. But sometimes, like last night, she's up earlier. Last night she was up at 4, cried for a long time and FH brought her in. I fed her, but then even though I could tell she was tired, she wasn't falling asleep. She was playing with my hair, tugging at our faces, etc. Not crying, but trying to play with us. So, we put her back in her crib around 5:30, and she fell asleep in 15 min. She was up again 30 minutes later, standing in her crib crying. It was morning by then, so I took her into our bed to nurse her, but as soon as she hit our bed, she was out. She slept for another hour. Sleeping seems like it's going to be a battle for a long time. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/20/09 11:13 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Posted by mamabear

Did you drop the crib all the way down?



yes...it's all the way down but can still reach with no problem


but as soon as she hit our bed, she was out. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



and this is also a major factor...he will cry for hours in his crib, but the second I put him in our bed...he sleeps until I wake him up.Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/20/09 11:17 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

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Posted by mamabear

Did you drop the crib all the way down?



yes...it's all the way down but can still reach with no problem


but as soon as she hit our bed, she was out. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



and this is also a major factor...he will cry for hours in his crib, but the second I put him in our bed...he sleeps until I wake him up.Chat Icon Chat Icon



I hear you. For awhile, almost a month, I gave in and just took her into our bed, even if it was the whole night. But I wasn't sleeping well then, and Fh stared complaining that it wasn't good for the two of us, that we needed at least part of the night alone in bed together. So, I just made it a point to say she was going to have to stay in her crib for the first half of the night, even if that meant she cried for the entire first half of the night. The first few nights she did cry for about 2 hours nonstop, but eventually fell asleep. Now she doesn't usually cry that long, but almost always cries for at least 30 minutes when we put her down, or she falls asleep right away, but wakes up in an hour or so and cries for about 30 minutes, It IS getting better, though. I won't say it's good, and some nights are worse than others, but we are enjoying having our bed back for a good portion of the night, and she is beginning to adjust.

Posted 7/20/09 11:47 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Posted by MrsFlatbread

Posted by chikita315

Have you tried putting him down before he falls asleep?



yes...but he is a monster and will immediately pull himself up despite my attepmts to soothe him...he is the devil!!!Chat Icon



For us, this was the key, he had to learn to fall asleep on his own first----that way when he woke up he knew where he was and wasn't freaking out he still wasn't being held by us. If it were me, I would try CIO at bedtime first and then the night wakings. GL Chat Icon

Posted 7/20/09 11:53 AM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

Posted by 08BabySurprise

What I did is I would go into his nursery and calm him down, lay him back down and rub his back, and lay on the floor next to him till he went back to sleep. We ended up sleeping in the nursery with him for a good week. That way, when he woke up in his crib he saw us there and didn't freak out. Then he stopped waking up all together and slept through. I was a CIO drop out but felt like this modified method worked for us. GOOD LUCK!!!!!



You know, I felt like I "should" do CIO. So for few nights I let one of my sons CIO. he screamed for 25 mins and fell asleep from utter exhaustion catching his bvreath the whole night through with little "sobs." Then we took him to teh Dr and found out he had an ear infection and sore throat. The idea that I had let my little baby scream without comfort whne he didn't feel good still haunts me and pretty much made me a CIO failure.

So NOW what I do is this. I put them in their cribs awake. I let them fuss but if they get truly hysterical I go in and rock them. Once I get them calmed down I put them back in their cribs and rub or pat their backs. Usually once I do that and shh shhh a few times I can leave when they are awake and they will fall asleep.

They are still waking up to eat which I "guess" I will let go on until they are 1 if necessary or maybe start modified CIO or reducing oz's around 10 months. I don't know. Only YOU know your baby and can decide what they (and you) can handle. My other son is a whiner BUT he never gets truly hysterical. So I let him fuss and he almost always falls asleep on his own.

The one thing I noticed about your post is that you said he falls asleep and you put him down. I read once that when babies are put to bed asleep, they wake up in utter confusion about where they are. If he can hold his bottle-you may want to consider giving him his last bottle in the crib on a boppy? Then if he falls asleep you can just slide him off the boppy. Also once I put some entertainment in my boys cribs they seemed better with being in there awake. I have a stuffed elephant that plays music and also a baby einsetin thing that has these slider beads and a button to hear music.

Posted 7/20/09 12:00 PM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

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Posted by headoverheels

is that an option for you?



I doubt it. What size do they go up too? DS is in 18 months



i have the halo sleep sack, DS is tall and he still has a lot of room to grow! i think it's size 12-18 months, or possibly 24 months.

Posted 7/20/09 12:06 PM
 

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Re: OKay...desperate with CIO...it flopped

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Posted by MrsFlatbread

Posted by headoverheels

is that an option for you?



I doubt it. What size do they go up too? DS is in 18 months



i have the halo sleep sack, DS is tall and he still has a lot of room to grow! i think it's size 12-18 months, or possibly 24 months.



My DD sometimes wears a sleep sack, but she stills pulls herself up and stands in her crib in her sleep sack.

Posted 7/20/09 12:47 PM
 
 

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