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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by Deedlebugs
oh goodness, I hope people would be smart enough to never base any Presidential vote on a situation like this. While this is a great victory, that started with some unpopular decisions 9 years ago, there are much bigger fish to fry, in terms of what our Country needs.
Protecting our borders is a pretty big fish. Terrorism..pretty big. It impacts our country in every way.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
I think his re-election is guaranteed until the Republican Party comes forth with a viable candidate. Seriously, the Republican Party is in sad shape when Donald Trump is a serious contender.
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
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Posted by Deedlebugs
oh goodness, I hope people would be smart enough to never base any Presidential vote on a situation like this. While this is a great victory, that started with some unpopular decisions 9 years ago, there are much bigger fish to fry, in terms of what our Country needs.
Protecting our borders is a pretty big fish. Terrorism..pretty big. It impacts our country in every way.
I couldn't agree more with securing our borders being a HUGE fish to fry... I was speaking of just Bin Laden's death.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
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No, I don't think so.
Posted by cds58019
He even said himself in his speech last night - he was told by his military leaders that THEY knew where Osama was. Obama didn't go out there and find him himself.
Exactly. If he had fired the gun that killed him, definitely. But other than giving them the "go" he didn't physically do anything. It does help his ratings though 
He doesn't even give the GO, thats why he has military officials.
tiffany, you know this is not true.
there is NO WAY they would have taken him out without the EXPLICIT ok of the President.
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bobby769
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
It definitely helps his ratings.
The elimination of Bin Laden as a global threat can effect many things which could in turn help Obama secure a 2nd term.
Will the troops come home?
If so, another point for Obama.
Will we save money and be able to reallocate funds for internal matters?
Possibley, if so, another point for Obama.
Part of the increase in Oil prices has been due to uncertainty in oil futures. Osama's death has already eased this concern (somewhat).
All these things combined can have an a positive effect in the next election, if not for Obama then the Democrats.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by Deedlebugs
oh goodness, I hope people would be smart enough to never base any Presidential vote on a situation like this. While this is a great victory, that started with some unpopular decisions 9 years ago, there are much bigger fish to fry, in terms of what our Country needs.
I agree with this and I am hoping with you!!!!!!!
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i was just thinking about this- i think this event will def increase his ratings and sway people to vote for him in the upcoming election.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
If come election day gas is $5 a gallon, home heat oil $4 a gallon and unemployment is still at 8% this will mean nothing to voters
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
I think the credit goes to our military and intelligence.
Anyone who was president right now, when the right intellignece came in could have accomplished this- and I think most of the American public realize this.
IMO:
If gas prices are high, food prices are high and unemployment is high, Obama will not be reelected.
If unemployment and gas prices improve by 2012, he will get reelected. Bin Laden's death won't matter.
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| Posted 5/2/11 10:53 AM |
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
I think we knew where he was for a while. We needed to keep him alive and gather other intel before we took him out.
I don't think this is the end to us taking out others including his second in command.
I don't believe for a second that we didn't know where he was.
As the general public we will never know the whole story and rightfully so. These are covert operations and classified information.
Very few know the whole truth about why it happened now.
Message edited 5/2/2011 10:58:59 AM.
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Possibly. I never know what to make of this stuff. There's always something weird going on.
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Posted by cds58019
I really hope not. He even said himself in his speech last night - he was told by his military leaders that THEY knew where Osama was. Obama didn't go out there and find him himself. The timing of all this is very convenient for him too.
I agree. Obama just happened to be in office when this happened. He didn't really have much control in this. I just think it was convenient for him.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Nothing in politics is ever a lock, especially more than 18 months out. Does this give a bump to his poll #s right now, yes, but does it equal reelection? Nope.
And to the PP who questioned whether it was POTUS who gave the go or not, he did. He's CIC. No one in the military or intel community does anything without POTUS's approval/go-ahead.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by Cpt2007
Nothing in politics is ever a lock, especially more than 18 months out. Does this give a bump to his poll #s right now, yes, but does it equal reelection? Nope.
And to the PP who questioned whether it was POTUS who gave the go or not, he did. He's CIC. No one in the military or intel community does anything without POTUS's approval/go-ahead.
I find it so odd how all of a sudden Obama is not the last buck in this situation, BUT he is for the economy, the petty political climate, the price of gas, the price of tea in China.....every ill we have in the country.
so typical.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Let's not forget that the US did also have to deal w/ Pakistan on how to handle Bin Laden.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704662604576257273696136418.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond
Their's a connection between Pakistan asking the US to suspend drone attacks and the fact that the latest action was a feet on the ground mission and did not include drones.
Consider the possibility that Pakistan's government was ready to cooperate w/ the US.
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Cpt2007
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Cpt2007
Nothing in politics is ever a lock, especially more than 18 months out. Does this give a bump to his poll #s right now, yes, but does it equal reelection? Nope.
And to the PP who questioned whether it was POTUS who gave the go or not, he did. He's CIC. No one in the military or intel community does anything without POTUS's approval/go-ahead.
I find it so odd how all of a sudden Obama is not the last buck in this situation, BUT he is for the economy, the petty political climate, the price of gas, the price of tea in China.....every ill we have in the country.
so typical.
took the words right out of my mouth.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by KevinNKristin8-15-08
Posted by cds58019
I really hope not. He even said himself in his speech last night - he was told by his military leaders that THEY knew where Osama was. Obama didn't go out there and find him himself. The timing of all this is very convenient for him too.
I agree. Obama just happened to be in office when this happened. He didn't really have much control in this. I just think it was convenient for him.
Taking over office in the midst of this country's worst financial crisis in over 70 years was probably pretty convenient too. Wow, he sure lucked out there!
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by KevinNKristin8-15-08
Posted by cds58019
I really hope not. He even said himself in his speech last night - he was told by his military leaders that THEY knew where Osama was. Obama didn't go out there and find him himself. The timing of all this is very convenient for him too.
I agree. Obama just happened to be in office when this happened. He didn't really have much control in this. I just think it was convenient for him.
Nah, it's just not an incredible coincidence.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
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Posted by Deedlebugs
oh goodness, I hope people would be smart enough to never base any Presidential vote on a situation like this. While this is a great victory, that started with some unpopular decisions 9 years ago, there are much bigger fish to fry, in terms of what our Country needs.
I agree with this and I am hoping with you!!!!!!!
Jess I NEVER agree with you on anything remotely political but in this case I do.
Just as an aside - Its apples and oranges to compare the presidencies of Carter and Obama (not even close and I don't care for Obama) BUT that being said, plenty of people thought Carter had 4 more years when he brought two Middle Eastern countries together that had been at odds since the time of the Bible. I'm not looking for a debate, all I am saying that is that there is a lot more than a single pivotal event that makes a sitting duck the man once again.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
I think it helps. Remember when Bush was re-elected in 2004. A HUGE part of that (IMO) was people voting based on who they felt could keep America safe from terrorism. One major criticism of OBama has been that he's "soft" on terrorism. Although MANY people were involved in taking Bin LAden down, it happenned during the Obama administration and I think he;s going to use that political capital to his advantage.
I also think we have a LONG year ahead of us before the election gets into full swing, so a lot can happen.
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dfw343
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Why would Obama be the only one credited for this?
How about OUR MILITARY leaders who do the REAL work?
I don;t think ANY President should get the credit soley.
Also, the TRUE war is just beginning. The terrorists will NOT take this lightly and there are a hundreds of more Bin Ladens.
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
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Nothing in politics is ever a lock, especially more than 18 months out. Does this give a bump to his poll #s right now, yes, but does it equal reelection? Nope.
And to the PP who questioned whether it was POTUS who gave the go or not, he did. He's CIC. No one in the military or intel community does anything without POTUS's approval/go-ahead.
I find it so odd how all of a sudden Obama is not the last buck in this situation, BUT he is for the economy, the petty political climate, the price of gas, the price of tea in China.....every ill we have in the country.
so typical.
took the words right out of my mouth.
And how about how Clinton "could have gotten Bin Laden but didn't" and we're still hearing about that ages later, but Obama gets no credit for taking decisive action? Or, let's distance him more even and say he gets no credit for the actions of his administration and the military of which he is the commander in chief?
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Re: Osama's death = Obama securing four more years???
Posted by Ophelia
I agree with this.
people called to question his resolve. his commitment to finding him. his ability to negotiate the military, and his foreign affairs prowess.
Obama just got a ton of respect from me. A TON.
I don't expect that people who disliked him before to jump on his bandwagon, but really, it's sad to see the people cannot give credit where credit is CLEARLY DUE.
it takes A LOT of guts to be the man to give that order. to send a team into a foreign country (on who's hire ups were COMPLICIT in hiding Osama) and order the kill.
and it will take a lot of guts to take the heat from any fallout.
he has been able to accomplish much more than he should have been, given the current climate in the Congress.
whether you like what he's been able to do or not is totally irrelevant.
hats off to you today, Mr. President.
and my God protect and keep all Americans and our Allies today. b/c it is NOT over.
this is perfectly stated.
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I agree with this.
people called to question his resolve. his commitment to finding him. his ability to negotiate the military, and his foreign affairs prowess.
Obama just got a ton of respect from me. A TON.
I don't expect that people who disliked him before to jump on his bandwagon, but really, it's sad to see the people cannot give credit where credit is CLEARLY DUE.
it takes A LOT of guts to be the man to give that order. to send a team into a foreign country (on who's hire ups were COMPLICIT in hiding Osama) and order the kill.
and it will take a lot of guts to take the heat from any fallout.
he has been able to accomplish much more than he should have been, given the current climate in the Congress.
whether you like what he's been able to do or not is totally irrelevant.
hats off to you today, Mr. President.
and my God protect and keep all Americans and our Allies today. b/c it is NOT over.
this is perfectly stated.
ITA
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My fear is the next lunatic that takes over for Osama!! My regards to the military, they got the job done
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