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JenniferEver
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance
Posted by nrthshgrl
But the tone of this thread is: Against the Pledge of Allegiance in school = doesn't love & appreciate our country. Now it's taken a turn to doesn't care about those who sacrificed their lives to save people on 9/11?
Those for the pledge of Allegiance = upstanding citizen, cares about this country, it's FDNY, it's NYPD, etc.
You put energy in to respond to this thread & further added that we shouldn't be responding to this thread but reflecting on those that perished on 9/11. But anyone who puts the energy into this thread who disagrees isn't a patriot?
For the record, I say the pledge. My children say the pledge. I'm off to church in 5 minutes where I'm sure it's going to be packed. But as an American, I'll be damned if I'm going to stand by and let those that don't say the pledge, aren't comfortable with the "under God" part be told to leave this country if they don't like it, be called unpatriotic, being told they don't care about those responders. ESPECIALLY ON THIS DAY.
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Posted 9/12/11 2:23 PM |
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twicethefun
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance
Posted by DiamondGirl
Something that bothers me is that on more than one occasion students have said something to the effect of they do not say the pledge bc this is not their country.
Obviously their parents must have taught them this.
We are all entitled to our opinions but if you are sitting in a public school in America you are receiving a Free And Appropriate Education in the good old US OF A. So yeah it pisses me the fuc*k off when kids (repeating what their parents have said) say things of this nature.
Opinions are one thing but have some respect. You don't want to say the pledge, no one is going to force you. But you will not take away my children or my right TO recite it in a classroom in MY county. Period.
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Posted 9/12/11 3:26 PM |
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MRsFaTThead
NY GIRL IN TEXAS
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance
Posted by MikesBride
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by nrthshgrl
I'm undecided as to if it should be said in school. I don't know that I find it necessary to pledge your allegiance to a country on a daily basis.
As for the "under God" part, I think it should be taken out & brought back to its original form. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Addition_of_.22under_God.22
This is a nation that is supposed to have a separation of church & state. And before it's brought up, I don't think "In God We Trust" should be printed on our money either. I don't agree with Congress's decision that those phrases have lost religious meaning. I agree with this. Honestly my biggest concern is not the "Under God" part, although it doesn't thrill me. Basically, you are forcing minors to Pledge their allegiance to this country. They don't understand what they are saying, and unless things have changed since I was in school, they don't explain what you are actually pledging. I think it should be discussed to educate the students, and be optional, not mandatory.
I was doing some googling about this, and found a skit from a comedy group who redid the pledge.
I pledge allegiance To the flag Of the United States of America Thank you very, very much for letting us little kids live here. It really, really was nice of you. You didn’t have to do it. And it’s really not freaky that us little, little kids Mindlessly recite this anthem Every day And pledge their life to a government Before they’re old enough to really think about what they’re saying. This is not a form of brainwashing. This is not a form of brainwashing. This is not a form of brainwashing. This is really the greatest country in the whole world. All the other countries suck. And if this country ever goes to war, As it’s often wont to do, I promise to help go and kill all the other countries’ kids. God bless Johnson & Johnson. God bless GE. God bless Citigroup. Amen.
This basically sums up my feelings on the subject.
Also, for those who are mud-slinging...get a grip. The beautiful thing about this country is that we're all allowed to have differing opinions. Now RESPECT that fact and stop calling people who disagree with children saying the pledge every day ignorant...you only make yourself look that way.
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Posted 9/12/11 4:38 PM |
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dctead
It's 5 o'clock somewhere!
Member since 11/10 2139 total posts
Name: Emily
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Re: Pledge of Allegiance
Posted by MikesBride
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by nrthshgrl
I'm undecided as to if it should be said in school. I don't know that I find it necessary to pledge your allegiance to a country on a daily basis.
As for the "under God" part, I think it should be taken out & brought back to its original form. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Addition_of_.22under_God.22
This is a nation that is supposed to have a separation of church & state. And before it's brought up, I don't think "In God We Trust" should be printed on our money either. I don't agree with Congress's decision that those phrases have lost religious meaning. I agree with this. Honestly my biggest concern is not the "Under God" part, although it doesn't thrill me. Basically, you are forcing minors to Pledge their allegiance to this country. They don't understand what they are saying, and unless things have changed since I was in school, they don't explain what you are actually pledging. I think it should be discussed to educate the students, and be optional, not mandatory.
I was doing some googling about this, and found a skit from a comedy group who redid the pledge.
I pledge allegiance To the flag Of the United States of America Thank you very, very much for letting us little kids live here. It really, really was nice of you. You didn’t have to do it. And it’s really not freaky that us little, little kids Mindlessly recite this anthem Every day And pledge their life to a government Before they’re old enough to really think about what they’re saying. This is not a form of brainwashing. This is not a form of brainwashing. This is not a form of brainwashing. This is really the greatest country in the whole world. All the other countries suck. And if this country ever goes to war, As it’s often wont to do, I promise to help go and kill all the other countries’ kids. God bless Johnson & Johnson. God bless GE. God bless Citigroup. Amen.
This basically sums up my feelings on the subject.
Also, for those who are mud-slinging...get a grip. The beautiful thing about this country is that we're all allowed to have differing opinions. Now RESPECT that fact and stop calling people who disagree with children saying the pledge every day ignorant...you only make yourself look that way.
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Posted 9/12/11 4:51 PM |
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