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luvmykids8
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Repeating a Grade
so I was having a discussion with my cousin and we were talking about tests, HW, etc now with the whole Common Core and she mentioned that on LI, teachers now cannot recommend a student be left back (repeat a grade).
I have no idea if this is true but I remember growing up if a child was not meeting up to standards, the teacher would make a comment on the report card about the student repeating the grade again.
I am just curious, but have they stopped that now?
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Wasn't the law changed to mandate no child left behind? I don't know if they have social promotion, which IMO is worse. I think they would recommend summer school for older grades.
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NervousNell
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Re: Repeating a Grade
All I know is that DD came home from school recently and said- "so and so ( a child from her K class last year) is in Kindergarten again."
So I guess they still do it
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Xelindrya
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Repeating a Grade
I know they still do it here for SURE.
You pass or fail. Very simple. Starting in 1st grade with grades.
You can come to weekend and summer school to make it up. Weekend school is generally limited to those who are going to be left behind due to absences but if you are borderline failing they will also invite students to go to weekend school to try to improve them before end of year to avoid summer school. But Summer school is available to all grade levels. No child left behind means no one is just ignored but if you fail, you fail.
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Repeating a Grade
They still do it, but not often. They will try to push a child through unless its and extreme situation. In our elementary schools, the report cards are E (exceeding expectations) S (meeting expectations) N (needs improvement) and U (unsatisfactory or way below expectations). There isn't anything as cut and dry as Pass/Fail. If you are an N in most subjects, they will try to give AIS services and you will continue to the next grade. It is rare they leave anyone back, at least in my very large district.
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KarenK122
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Repeating a Grade
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
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| Posted 12/20/16 8:08 PM |
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It happened before common core. It was No Child Left Behind.
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
This. It can happen, but it is very rare. Social promotion is obviously a problem as students do not have the basic skills needed to be successful at the next level.
At the high school level, it is different. Students can and do fail classes. Depending upon how many classes they fail will determine if they get to the next grade level or not. Many students who have been socially promoted several times fail their 9th grade classes.
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lululu
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
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KarenK122
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Depends on where you live. NYC schools do not allow redshirting. You start when you start, period, end of story.
On LI, you can enroll your 12 year old in kindergarten for the first time.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
This is what they say but, there are MANY that repeat Kindergarten and are definitely not testing below grade level. There are kids repeating Kindergarten that go in reading on a 3rd grade level.
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| Posted 12/22/16 9:23 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by KarenK122
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If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
I really don't think that I could have just elected to hold my daughter back. She went to public K. I know people do get around it by sending them to private K but I really don't think I could have just said I wanted to hold her after she already complete K.
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We are in NYC. Every January they will send letters out to the parents whose kids are at risk of not being promoted. However, the parent has the ultimate decision or sign off on whether or not the child is promoted or not.
However, this is my own experience, we got those letters in K, 1st and 2nd grade. My son had un-diagnosed dyslexia at the time. In K and 1st, he was most definitely socially promoted.
His second grade teacher really started noticing his deficits and we pushed for all of the evals and stuff and made some major changes going into third grade. But one of the things we really discussed was that holding HIM back, wasn't the solution, there were other issues at bay.
So, basically my long post is to say that I think it really is a case by case basis to make this decision.
And as an aside, he didn't get that letter in 3rd nad won't be getting it in 4th
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NervousNell
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
This is what they say but, there are MANY that repeat Kindergarten and are definitely not testing below grade level. There are kids repeating Kindergarten that go in reading on a 3rd grade level.
What would be the point of holding you child back and making them repeat K, not move up with their classmates and friends, if they are reading at a 3rd grade level?
Wouldn't they be bored out of their minds repeating K if they are THAT smart?
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
This is what they say but, there are MANY that repeat Kindergarten and are definitely not testing below grade level. There are kids repeating Kindergarten that go in reading on a 3rd grade level.
What would be the point of holding you child back and making them repeat K, not move up with their classmates and friends, if they are reading at a 3rd grade level?
Wouldn't they be bored out of their minds repeating K if they are THAT smart?
Our friend did this to her son. He certainly wasn't at a 3rd grade level, but academically he was fine, just immature and a late birthday. Basically she wished she had held him back to begin with and didn't, anyway they repeated kindergarten for about 1 week when he came home and said how bored he was, and they ended up moving him up to 1st with his friends. They whole thing was a bit of a mess for the poor kid.
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NervousNell
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by MrsH2009
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Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
This is what they say but, there are MANY that repeat Kindergarten and are definitely not testing below grade level. There are kids repeating Kindergarten that go in reading on a 3rd grade level.
What would be the point of holding you child back and making them repeat K, not move up with their classmates and friends, if they are reading at a 3rd grade level?
Wouldn't they be bored out of their minds repeating K if they are THAT smart?
Our friend did this to her son. He certainly wasn't at a 3rd grade level, but academically he was fine, just immature and a late birthday. Basically she wished she had held him back to begin with and didn't, anyway they repeated kindergarten for about 1 week when he came home and said how bored he was, and they ended up moving him up to 1st with his friends. They whole thing was a bit of a mess for the poor kid.
Sometimes I think parents need to get out of their own heads and get out of the way of their kids.
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Repeating a Grade
In my district it does happen in Kindergarten. However, the principal and parents have to present it to the superintendent and he/she makes the final decison.
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Re: Repeating a Grade
My school has held a few students back--mostly in kindergarten. It's not very common, though.
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by KarenK122
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If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
Super common in our neighborhood. We are even getting a "fives" preschool year (with a tuition) for the redshirted kids. I have mixed feelings about it... DS is over a year younger than many classmates... and he has a late summer birthday.
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lululu
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by nycgirl
Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
Super common in our neighborhood. We are even getting a "fives" preschool year (with a tuition) for the redshirted kids. I have mixed feelings about it... DS is over a year younger than many classmates... and he has a late summer birthday.
There is a big difference between red shirting and repeating kindergarten.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by lululu
Posted by nycgirl
Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
Super common in our neighborhood. We are even getting a "fives" preschool year (with a tuition) for the redshirted kids. I have mixed feelings about it... DS is over a year younger than many classmates... and he has a late summer birthday.
There is a big difference between red shirting and repeating kindergarten.
Not any more. What I have seen is parents of sept, oct, nov birthdays have the child do Kindergarten in a private/catholic/Montessori school to "see how they are at the end of the year" and then make the decision whether to put them in Kindergarten or First the following year at the public school. This goes on a lot more than you probably realize where a child has done Kindergarten in a private or catholic school and then does Kindergarten AGAIN in the public school. Repeating Kindergarten IN the SAME public school - yes, it happens but it's more rare and a parent would need to fight for it. But, in the more affluent areas where money isn't an issue it's always done the other way. And I've yet to see a parent push them to first and not repeat  Both of my kids went through Kindergarten with kids that then did Kindergarten again in the public school.
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
This is what they say but, there are MANY that repeat Kindergarten and are definitely not testing below grade level. There are kids repeating Kindergarten that go in reading on a 3rd grade level.
What would be the point of holding you child back and making them repeat K, not move up with their classmates and friends, if they are reading at a 3rd grade level?
Wouldn't they be bored out of their minds repeating K if they are THAT smart?
I agree. I can't understand the rationale for repeating K if the child is already reading at such a high level. DS has a mid December birthday. He started K at 4. He was already reading around a 1st grade level when he started. He was with kids over a year older than him yet it hasn't negatively affected him at all. He's doing great in school (3rd grade now). I can't imagine him having been held back or repeating K. He would've been so bored and that could've easily resulted in bad behaviors. I don't see the benefit of repeating a grade at all for a child who isn't struggling academically or socially.
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by nycgirl
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
Super common in our neighborhood. We are even getting a "fives" preschool year (with a tuition) for the redshirted kids. I have mixed feelings about it... DS is over a year younger than many classmates... and he has a late summer birthday.
There is a big difference between red shirting and repeating kindergarten.
Not any more. What I have seen is parents of sept, oct, nov birthdays have the child do Kindergarten in a private/catholic/Montessori school to "see how they are at the end of the year" and then make the decision whether to put them in Kindergarten or First the following year at the public school. This goes on a lot more than you probably realize where a child has done Kindergarten in a private or catholic school and then does Kindergarten AGAIN in the public school. Repeating Kindergarten IN the SAME public school - yes, it happens but it's more rare and a parent would need to fight for it. But, in the more affluent areas where money isn't an issue it's always done the other way. And I've yet to see a parent push them to first and not repeat Both of my kids went through Kindergarten with kids that then did Kindergarten again in the public school.
The kids who go to kindergarten in private school- their parents don't fight to get their kid into first grade in the public school? My DD is a December baby and if someone at the public elementary school told me that she had to repeat kindergarten after attending private school I wouldn't exactly say "ok" and fill out the registration form....I'd be a stark raving lunatic.
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NervousNell
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Re: Repeating a Grade
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by lululu
Posted by nycgirl
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by lululu
Posted by KarenK122
If the child is falling behind they need to provide academic supports in class or outside of class. It is very rare if at all a school does not promote a child (in elementary school). A parent has the right to hold a child back if they wish. I did in K with my daughter.
Does a parent definitely have the right to do this because it is my understanding that in my district if you go to an accredited private K program and you are not testing below grade level you must move on to 1st grade. Parents can not elect to hold you back.
Not true. Many people do private K for a year and then go to public school K after that. Be mindful of ages though. Most people do what I mentioned above have children with birthdays before December so they would have started K as a 4 year old. By holding back they start at 5.
Kindergarten is not even mandated. You just have to be in school by the time you are 6 years old.
Super common in our neighborhood. We are even getting a "fives" preschool year (with a tuition) for the redshirted kids. I have mixed feelings about it... DS is over a year younger than many classmates... and he has a late summer birthday.
There is a big difference between red shirting and repeating kindergarten.
Not any more. What I have seen is parents of sept, oct, nov birthdays have the child do Kindergarten in a private/catholic/Montessori school to "see how they are at the end of the year" and then make the decision whether to put them in Kindergarten or First the following year at the public school. This goes on a lot more than you probably realize where a child has done Kindergarten in a private or catholic school and then does Kindergarten AGAIN in the public school. Repeating Kindergarten IN the SAME public school - yes, it happens but it's more rare and a parent would need to fight for it. But, in the more affluent areas where money isn't an issue it's always done the other way. And I've yet to see a parent push them to first and not repeat Both of my kids went through Kindergarten with kids that then did Kindergarten again in the public school.
The kids who go to kindergarten in private school- their parents don't fight to get their kid into first grade in the public school? My DD is a December baby and if someone at the public elementary school told me that she had to repeat kindergarten after attending private school I wouldn't exactly say "ok" and fill out the registration form....I'd be a stark raving lunatic.
I think she meant the parents WANT them to do K again and do it that way on purpose so their child does K twice and gets what they perceive as an advantage over other kids.
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