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School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

I have to add that I would NEVER send my child to a private school that did not have a well-rounded program that included the arts. Being the music teach at my school, I KNOW we have an awesome music programChat Icon , but we also have an amazing art program, a theatre arts department, a state-of-the-art computer lab, a beautiful library, enrichment programs, French from 1st-8th grade, health, physical education, afterschool clubs and programs like tae kwon doe, chess, silver-smithing, study buddies, National Junior Honor Society, Student Council, etc....so, I think that no matter public, private or parochial, you MUST look at the SCHOOL ITSELF, not what TYPE of school it is.

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Yes, without a doubt. Especially if the SD I was in wasn't great. However, it's a really good SD so I guess I have to make decsions when the time comes as to which school.

Posted 8/15/05 9:02 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

No - where we live (in NJ) we pay enough taxes every year and the public schools are amazing - i will send my children to public school.

Posted 8/15/05 9:05 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Posted by marymoon

Oh about wated time. We "wasted " a LOT more time in public school. Incathoic school we had religion for 45 minutes twice a week or something like that. In public school we had art, computers, various city-sponsored awareness classes about AIDS, etc, Latin and French in Elementary School, Math League, and believe it or not, interpreation of Modern Art. All of this was during school hours in public school!



Chat Icon How in the world is this considered "wasted time"??? That's what makes a good school. Marymoon, this is not directed solely at you but at all of the people who answered this thread in a similar vein. Is a person who does something more in the arts, or in public awareness or urban planning - are they not as 'good' to you as children as those who decide to be lawyers, doctors and businessmen?

I personally would never EVER send my child to Catholic school. The people who teach at Catholic school do not even have to have a masters degree. How could you ever think that's better than a good public school, regardless of the whole social aspect of teaching children that people who are essentially different from them are bad?!?!

Posted 8/15/05 9:51 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Posted by Leeners

Posted by marymoon

Oh about wated time. We "wasted " a LOT more time in public school. Incathoic school we had religion for 45 minutes twice a week or something like that. In public school we had art, computers, various city-sponsored awareness classes about AIDS, etc, Latin and French in Elementary School, Math League, and believe it or not, interpreation of Modern Art. All of this was during school hours in public school!



Chat Icon How in the world is this considered "wasted time"??? That's what makes a good school. Marymoon, this is not directed solely at you but at all of the people who answered this thread in a similar vein. Is a person who does something more in the arts, or in public awareness or urban planning - are they not as 'good' to you as children as those who decide to be lawyers, doctors and businessmen?

I personally would never EVER send my child to Catholic school. The people who teach at Catholic school do not even have to have a masters degree. How could you ever think that's better than a good public school, regardless of the whole social aspect of teaching children that people who are essentially different from them are bad?!?!



Umm...where do people learn that people who are different from them are bad.....in Catholic school where tolerance is taught or public school where gang warfare abounds?

Posted 8/15/05 9:53 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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I personally would never EVER send my child to Catholic school. The people who teach at Catholic school do not even have to have a masters degree. How could you ever think that's better than a good public school, regardless of the whole social aspect of teaching children that people who are essentially different from them are bad?!?!


I take some offense at these statements. I attended Catholic school for 12 years and I have been teaching in Catholic schools for going on 10 years now. I have a Master's Degree and nearly all of the people I have worked with either have one or are currently attending grad school. You don't "need" one to teach in public school either; I know someone currently teaching special ed kindgergarteners in public school with NO prior experience and NO education degree of any sort.

In my opinion having or not having a Master's degree does not make one a good or a bad teacher.

Posted 8/15/05 10:18 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Posted by Moehick
Umm...where do people learn that people who are different from them are bad.....in Catholic school where tolerance is taught or public school where gang warfare abounds?


Tolerence is essentially the opposite of what I was taught in Catholic school. Chat Icon

IMO unless you're in an awful school district, there's no reason to send your children to Catholic school. Obviously I'm not the only person who feels this way since the majority of Catholic elementary and middle schools have closed in the past 15 years. I went to Catholic college, I'm not talking out of my as$ here. I would not ever subject my child to such close-mindedness. You may not agree, and you may even take offense, but this is my opinion, which is what the original poster asked for.

ETS: the 'where gang warfare abounds' is a ridiculous comment, sorry. You think all public schools are full of gangs? That's like saying all Catholic schools are full of sluts - Riduclulous!

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Posted 8/15/05 10:25 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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ETS: the 'where gang warfare abounds' is a ridiculous comment, sorry. You think all public schools are full of gangs? That's like saying all Catholic schools are full of sluts - Riduclulous!




Nearly as ridiculous as saying that all catholic schools teach intolerance and hateChat Icon

Posted 8/15/05 11:02 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Posted by Leeners
IMO unless you're in an awful school district, there's no reason to send your children to Catholic school.



Actually another reason to send your kids to Catholic school is so that they are taught religion on a daily basis. Catholic schools devote time to teaching children religion...since public schools cannot do that (according to the government), it may be one other reason that some people opt to send their kids to Catholic school instead of public.

Not to mention another reason which is that the class size is smaller so children have more time with the teachers.

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Posted 8/15/05 11:06 PM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Depending on where we will finally be living when it comes time for our hopefully future children to attend school-I would want them to attend a private school..not necessarily Catholic. DH attended Catholic school up until high school and swears he will never put his kids through what he dealt with. If we are living out of state at that time and the school districts are not as good as NY then DH and I will have to consider it..

Posted 8/16/05 12:28 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

I am torn with this. I went to both catholic grammar and hs and I can truly say that I dont feel that I received the best education. Although, I did learn a lot about my religion, I feel that others who went to public school learned a lot more in other areas. But due to where I grew up, there wasnt much choice for my parents. Our zoned public school was awful and we were literally safer in catholic school.

That being said..if we lived in an area with a good public school, then I would send my children there and teach them about their religion myself and through our practices. I also dont feel as if we can truly depend on catholic school too much anymore with the way they have been closing. I wouldnt want my child to have to start off going to school in one place and have to switch to public because the school was closing. All in all, it totally depends on where we live at the time.

Posted 8/16/05 12:44 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

I am a public school teacher and so is my DH. This debate between public vs. private and everyone's opinions as to why one is better than the other and why not to send their kids to one school over another


First, I want to say that both schools offer children and families a good education. I know people who send their kids to private schools who supplement the lack of Arts with after school activities and those who choose to send their child to public supplement the lack of religious values with after school religion. It all depends on what your family deems important and necessary for your child.

Now I have to defend public school for a minute. There is no time wasted in public school. We work very hard along with the administrators to provide the best balanced education for the children. We are held to high expectations for the child's education. Having the Arts built into the curriculum is NOT a waste of time. The goal is to develop a well rounded and balanced individual. There are many children who don't excel in one subject or another but will do amazing in an art program. They really benefit from exposure to the arts and can even help their academics. As stated before, music has been shown to increase performance in school. Why take that away? Is is that much of a waste of time for those children? Is it such a waste of time to expose your child to the arts so they may find a new love for learning?

There really is no wasted time in school. Every minute is carefully planned so that the children can experience the best education possible.

Yes, in some districts there are gangs, drugs, etc. I don't want my child to be exposed to these things also. I am not saying that I wouldn't put my child in a private school at all. If we lived in one of these areas, then perhaps I would. Private schools cost a lot of money and their teachers work their arses off too. Why then if it's so expensive to go there are their teachers are so underpaid? It is such a big difference between public and private salaries. They are just as educated but are under appreciated. It's just not fair!

Educating your child is such a personal choice that has to be made with the child's best interest in mind. If money was no option in regards to education I'm sure things would be very different in our schools.


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Posted 8/16/05 8:05 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Posted by Leeners

I personally would never EVER send my child to Catholic school. The people who teach at Catholic school do not even have to have a masters degree. How could you ever think that's better than a good public school, regardless of the whole social aspect of teaching children that people who are essentially different from them are bad?!?!


there are PLENTY of teachers in public schools that do not have a "masters degree".

Why is anyone equating public or private school with people being smarter?

"Is a person who does something more in the arts, or in public awareness or urban planning - are they not as 'good' to you as children as those who decide to be lawyers, doctors and businessmen?"

WHO SAID THAT? Nobody said that someone isn't "good" as another....

THis is getting silly...IT is a personal preference...

For me...it really depends on the SD i end up residing in...THere are PLENTY of public SD's that are BETTER than private schools...

Can't really answer one way or another without knowing what you have to start off with.

If i was to end up in a SD that i didn't like..YES private school i would definitely look into...

If i was in a great SD....I wouldn't bother.

BUT nobody is saying anything about anyone being better than another.

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Posted 8/16/05 8:19 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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Posted by Leeners
IMO unless you're in an awful school district, there's no reason to send your children to Catholic school.



Actually another reason to send your kids to Catholic school is so that they are taught religion on a daily basis. Catholic schools devote time to teaching children religion...since public schools cannot do that (according to the government), it may be one other reason that some people opt to send their kids to Catholic school instead of public.

Not to mention another reason which is that the class size is smaller so children have more time with the teachers.




There's CCD, which is what I went to all through elementary school. And, as I said, that's IMO.

I'm not saying anyone is dumb for sending their kids to Catholic school. The original poster asked for everyone's opinion, which is what I gave (and reiterated that it was, in fact, my opinion).

Posted 8/16/05 8:20 AM
 

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BUT nobody is saying anything about anyone being better than another.



When you're calling the programs a "waste of time", I would assume you (the general You here) think it's better not to waste time, no? Thus Catholic schools are 'better'. That's all I was saying Chat Icon

there are PLENTY of teachers in public schools that do not have a "masters degree".



In what district do you have uncertified teachers teaching without a masters degree? Not NYC, that's for sure. Somewhere on LI?

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Why do you think the arts are not taught in Catholic School?

Posted 8/16/05 8:25 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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Posted by Redhead
BUT nobody is saying anything about anyone being better than another.



When you're calling the programs a "waste of time", I would assume you (the general You here) think it's better not to waste time, no? Thus Catholic schools are 'better'. That's all I was saying Chat Icon

there are PLENTY of teachers in public schools that do not have a "masters degree".



In what district do you have uncertified teachers teaching without a masters degree? Not NYC, that's for sure. Somewhere on LI?


i think there are definitely classes that are a waste of time to some children...

I personally feel that certain classes were for me...And i am sure that isn't the same for others....each child is different...But it is good to raise a well rounded child regardless.

But i still do not see anyone saying that a child who is in the "arts" as opposed to one who isn't is better or worse off than others.

Nor do i think a child that goes to private school is necessarily better or worse off ...

this is sooo subjective...

Posted 8/16/05 8:25 AM
 

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Posted by Redhead
BUT nobody is saying anything about anyone being better than another.



When you're calling the programs a "waste of time", I would assume you (the general You here) think it's better not to waste time, no? Thus Catholic schools are 'better'. That's all I was saying Chat Icon

there are PLENTY of teachers in public schools that do not have a "masters degree".



In what district do you have uncertified teachers teaching without a masters degree? Not NYC, that's for sure. Somewhere on LI?



Actually my cousin does NOT have her masters and was working in NYC schools
ETA...she works in Queens..Forest Hills i believe
AND
My friends sister was working in (i think) Bayshore SD without a masters....
AS WELL as my sisters friend who works in Middle Country SD and DOES NOT have her masters YET!

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Posted 8/16/05 8:27 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

I think this is a personal choice. The person who started it just asked if you had the $$ would you.
Everyone is entitled to their opninion, but dont insult someone else's opninion.

Posted 8/16/05 8:31 AM
 

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Posted by Diane

I think this is a personal choice. The person who started it just asked if you had the $$ would you.
Everyone is entitled to their opninion, but dont insult someone else's opninion.



Meaning who? The person that stated that catholic schools teach you to hate people different from you?

Posted 8/16/05 8:33 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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In what district do you have uncertified teachers teaching without a masters degree? Not NYC, that's for sure. Somewhere on LI?



You can't be uncertified and teach in NY.... you need at least a bachelor's and to be certified in any NY position. You don't need a master's degree to teach but for NY perm. certification you need to get your master's with in 5 years.

Posted 8/16/05 8:34 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

Posted by Moehick

Posted by Diane

I think this is a personal choice. The person who started it just asked if you had the $$ would you.
Everyone is entitled to their opninion, but dont insult someone else's opninion.



Meaning who? The person that stated that catholic schools teach you to hate people different from you?



I was just saying people were starting to get offended by their choices on whether they would send their child to a catholic school.

Posted 8/16/05 8:35 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

well the original poster...although i do not believe it was her intent...used the word "wasted" as well as others to describe certain classes and people took offense to that...

But i do not think people were trying to insult anyones choices here

Posted 8/16/05 8:38 AM
 

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Re: School Spinoff-If money wasn't the issue, would you chose private over public school?

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Posted by Leeners

I personally would never EVER send my child to Catholic school. The people who teach at Catholic school do not even have to have a masters degree. How could you ever think that's better than a good public school, regardless of the whole social aspect of teaching children that people who are essentially different from them are bad?!?!


there are PLENTY of teachers in public schools that do not have a "masters degree".

Why is anyone equating public or private school with people being smarter?

"Is a person who does something more in the arts, or in public awareness or urban planning - are they not as 'good' to you as children as those who decide to be lawyers, doctors and businessmen?"

WHO SAID THAT? Nobody said that someone isn't "good" as another....

THis is getting silly...IT is a personal preference...

For me...it really depends on the SD i end up residing in...THere are PLENTY of public SD's that are BETTER than private schools...

Can't really answer one way or another without knowing what you have to start off with.

If i was to end up in a SD that i didn't like..YES private school i would definitely look into...

If i was in a great SD....I wouldn't bother.

BUT nobody is saying anything about anyone being better than another.





I was just agreeing with your post that you wrote earlier. It is a PERSONALLY ChoiceChat Icon

Posted 8/16/05 8:40 AM
 

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I was just agreeing with your post that you wrote earlier. It is a PERSONALLY ChoiceChat Icon


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