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Re: Schools- all or nothing
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I was listening to an interview from someone that made the decision to close a California University for the fall and teach remotely instead. He said that it is easier to start with remote learning and then transition to a classroom than to go from teaching in a classroom and then have to change to remote learning.
They are dealing with adults, so it makes sense for them.
Starting the year remotely with elementary students who don’t know their new teacher at all is going to be a whole different ballgame than colleges starting out remotely. And it would be incredibly challenging for teachers to get to know their new students’ needs remotely.
Yes - I would think in elementary school they would have to consider looping if this were to happen...
My older son is starting middle school too so it is going to be very difficult.
Looping seems like the solution but is SO much work, haha
Not only would teachers have to adapt to remote learning, they'd have to learn an entirely new curriculum and be on a grade level with everyone else who is new to the curriculum, so no experienced teachers at that grade level. And the teachers of the oldest grade in the building can't go up, so they'd have to go all the way down to K.
I've looped before and it's a great concept..but in reality..
I know it's not easy but, and it wouldn't make sense for the 4th grade teachers to teach kindergarten lol. I can imagine it being difficult to teach a group of kids who didn't have normal instruction that you never officially met.
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
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Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
The reasoning is that you could then have 10 kids in a class instead of 20.
And the teachers would have to find childcare, take a leave of absence, or resign. Theoretically, it would be no different from what they should be doing now
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
It isn’t just teachers—How would this work for anybody with 2 FTWP? Are daycares going to start taking 9 year olds? Does everyone need to hire a nanny?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by mommywantsababy
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Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
The reasoning is that you could then have 10 kids in a class instead of 20.
And the teachers would have to find childcare, take a leave of absence, or resign. Theoretically, it would be no different from what they should be doing now
So the teacher is still interacting with all 20 students every week, just not at the same time?
This seems like an unnecessary waste of effort to coordinate something that is still basically putting all the same people at risk, just *maybe* a little less.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Katareen
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Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
It isn’t just teachers—How would this work for anybody with 2 FTWP? Are daycares going to start taking 9 year olds? Does everyone need to hire a nanny?
Not to mention most of us don't have the budget to hire part time childcare.
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I think they will open eventually with limited classes on a rolling basis. Our district lost a librarian and a teachers aide to COVID so far that we know of. I think this will be taken very seriously.
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Katareen
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
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Posted by mommywantsababy
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Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
The reasoning is that you could then have 10 kids in a class instead of 20.
And the teachers would have to find childcare, take a leave of absence, or resign. Theoretically, it would be no different from what they should be doing now
So the teacher is still interacting with all 20 students every week, just not at the same time?
This seems like an unnecessary waste of effort to coordinate something that is still basically putting all the same people at risk, just *maybe* a little less.
I agree. You could do your best every night to disinfect every single surface, but something will always be contaminated. It just isn’t possible.
Especially the younger grades. Kids are going to grab the wrong lunchbox. Hold hands. Do a bad job washing up in the bathroom.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
The reasoning is that you could then have 10 kids in a class instead of 20.
And the teachers would have to find childcare, take a leave of absence, or resign. Theoretically, it would be no different from what they should be doing now
So the teacher is still interacting with all 20 students every week, just not at the same time?
This seems like an unnecessary waste of effort to coordinate something that is still basically putting all the same people at risk, just *maybe* a little less.
I agree. You could do your best every night to disinfect every single surface, but something will always be contaminated. It just isn’t possible.
Especially the younger grades. Kids are going to grab the wrong lunchbox. Hold hands. Do a bad job washing up in the bathroom.
And all this was going on in all schools on March 14 etc
No precautions.
Why didn't we have more kids with Covid?
Surely the virus was around then
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously.  It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
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Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
I’m sure you could call your superintendent to voice your concern. I spoke to ours, and was told there’s almost a zero chance of school returning to normal in the fall. Think of high schools with thousands in the buildings at a time-it’s likely not feasible, and schools are holding out until a vaccine to return to normal.
Also, they need to work on contingency plans now, not at the last minute. Why in the world would They not try to have a plan in place starting now?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
I’m sure you could call your superintendent to voice your concern. I spoke to ours, and was told there’s almost a zero chance of school returning to normal in the fall. Think of high schools with thousands in the buildings at a time-it’s likely not feasible, and schools are holding out until a vaccine to return to normal.
Also, they need to work on contingency plans now, not at the last minute. Why in the world would They not try to have a plan in place starting now?
And what if there is no vaccine?
There is no vaccine for any of the other Corona viruses out there.
Then what?
No school forever?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by LMichele
I can't even imagine it. It gives me SO much anxiety thinking of being full on remote in September.
I'd much rather being in the classroom with a 50/50 class split on alternate days, but I know that for families it would be a complete logistical nightmare.
So I don't know what the solution is. I'm on a committee for my school to begin discussing it, but I'm at a complete loss.
Whatever the solution, it needs to work for families and be in the best interest of the students and consider the health of the staff as well. So many parts to work with.
So this is what I don't understand. What is the difference between my kids coming into school 2-3 days a week as opposed to 5 days? Because I think once you step foot into the school you are taking a risk and you're probably not lowering that risk at all just because kids are only there 50%.
ETA How would this work for the teachers who are also parents?
It isn’t just teachers—How would this work for anybody with 2 FTWP? Are daycares going to start taking 9 year olds? Does everyone need to hire a nanny?
some daycares already have after school programs and theres SCOPE but what I dont get so its ok to send kids there but not to school??!! make 0 sense.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
I’m sure you could call your superintendent to voice your concern. I spoke to ours, and was told there’s almost a zero chance of school returning to normal in the fall. Think of high schools with thousands in the buildings at a time-it’s likely not feasible, and schools are holding out until a vaccine to return to normal.
Also, they need to work on contingency plans now, not at the last minute. Why in the world would They not try to have a plan in place starting now?
I think we all know school will 100% not be normal in the fall. But they can't remote learn exclusively until there is a vaccine. That could take 3 years, if ever. I don't see how anyone, anywhere thinks this is a feasible solution for anyone.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
I’m sure you could call your superintendent to voice your concern. I spoke to ours, and was told there’s almost a zero chance of school returning to normal in the fall. Think of high schools with thousands in the buildings at a time-it’s likely not feasible, and schools are holding out until a vaccine to return to normal.
Also, they need to work on contingency plans now, not at the last minute. Why in the world would They not try to have a plan in place starting now?
And what if there is no vaccine?
There is no vaccine for any of the other Corona viruses out there.
Then what?
No school forever?
holding out for a vaccine which may not even be mandatory? so a vaccine comes out and say majority people wont take it then what??
stupidity to have to wait for a vaccines that may not even work!!
the flu vaccine doesnt even work most of the time!!
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
Curious as to what you think should happen if someone in a classroom get Covid be it a kid or teacher. Does the rest of the class quarantine? Or does nothing happen?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NicoleF219
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
Curious as to what you think should happen if someone in a classroom get Covid be it a kid or teacher. Does the rest of the class quarantine? Or does nothing happen?
with testing now available to everyone there wouldn't be a need to quarantine. They should get tested if they are negative the go back to school
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
But it could be days before they get a positive. So you are potentially putting others at risk. These kinda of plans needs to be in place. It isn’t as simple as open schools and f the teachers let them quit.
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Naturalmama
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Schools- all or nothing
My guess is schools will be closed for years, because people are saying schools will never reopen without a vaccine or being able to keep kids in a plastic bubble, 35 feet away from the next bubble. It is completely absurd. Sure, start off staggered, hybrid, etc. But kids need to somehow be in the buildings even a few days a week.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NicoleF219
But it could be days before they get a positive. So you are potentially putting others at risk. These kinda of plans needs to be in place. It isn’t as simple as open schools and f the teachers let them quit.
What do u think it should be done if a teacher or student gets the flu?
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I hope for those families that send their kids to school that they don’t be mandated to wear a mask. I really hate the whole rhetorical of how masks protect others, well what about the person wearing it for hrs and hrs which would be the case for kids in school?!?
Masks
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
I hope for those families that send their kids to school that they don’t be mandated to wear a mask. I really hate the whole rhetorical of how masks protect others, well what about the person wearing it for hrs and hrs which would be the case for kids in school?!?
Masks
didnt read the article but there is no way kids can wear masks at least in elementary. no way will kids ever keep them on the whole day!
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Schools- all or nothing
I don't know. I hope so. My son is suppose to start Kindergarten in September and I am wondering if I can and should look into holding him back a year if they do not open.
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by bunnyluck
I don't know. I hope so. My son is suppose to start Kindergarten in September and I am wondering if I can and should look into holding him back a year if they do not open.
If that is feasible , I would if there is no school next year.
Starting K in these circumstances would be pretty shittty
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by bunnyluck
I don't know. I hope so. My son is suppose to start Kindergarten in September and I am wondering if I can and should look into holding him back a year if they do not open.
If that is feasible , I would if there is no school next year.
Starting K in these circumstances would be pretty shittty
You know what’s so ironic, is that we complain so much about millennials mannerisms and work ethic. Yea. Let’s keep schools closed forever. I can’t wait to see how these kids turn out and all the complaints about them in 10yrs. No socialization, no education... cause despite Cuomo‘s praises, the education a majority of the students are getting right now is a crock of sh!t.
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