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Re: Schools- all or nothing
What is looping?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
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Posted by bunnyluck
I don't know. I hope so. My son is suppose to start Kindergarten in September and I am wondering if I can and should look into holding him back a year if they do not open.
If that is feasible , I would if there is no school next year.
Starting K in these circumstances would be pretty shittty
You know what’s so ironic, is that we complain so much about millennials mannerisms and work ethic. Yea. Let’s keep schools closed forever. I can’t wait to see how these kids turn out and all the complaints about them in 10yrs. No socialization, no education... cause despite Cuomo‘s praises, the education a majority of the students are getting right now is a crock of sh!t.
I fear for our future for sure. It will be a generation of under educated, socialized, hermits who have no idea how to function in the real world.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
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Katareen
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
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I hope for those families that send their kids to school that they don’t be mandated to wear a mask. I really hate the whole rhetorical of how masks protect others, well what about the person wearing it for hrs and hrs which would be the case for kids in school?!?
Masks
didnt read the article but there is no way kids can wear masks at least in elementary. no way will kids ever keep them on the whole day!
My kids can’t keep a pair of gloves on in the snow for more than 5 minutes.
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Katareen
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
Ah ok- yeah I guess that would be better than a new teacher who can't even meet his or her new students
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JandJ1224
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
Of my friends who are teachers they say this isn't a great plan. Teachers aren't prepared to teach different grade material. It would also be an issue for say 5th grade teachers, they would then get moved to the back to Kindergarten.
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LSP2005
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
I think the schools will have some small in person classes for science, gym, and electives. The rest of the classes will be at home and on line. So your kid might go to school one day a week and home school four days a week.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NicoleF219
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Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously.  It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
Curious as to what you think should happen if someone in a classroom get Covid be it a kid or teacher. Does the rest of the class quarantine? Or does nothing happen?
If someone in the class gets COVID, they stay home and quarantine for 2 weeks and life moves on just as it does for the million other illnesses kids get at school from colds to flu to chicken pox.
Guys, in case anyone hasn't realized at this point, their is a VERY HIGH likelihood we're all just going to get this virus at some point and the REALITY is MOST of us will be fine after. We CANNOT close down our lives and schools and jobs forever while we wait for some rushed, half a$$ed vaccine that may never even work. This virus isn't going anywhere, it's going to just be a fact of life going forward. We cannot live in a bubble, life will have to move forward MOSTLY like NORMAL despite it.
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lululu
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LSP2005
I think the schools will have some small in person classes for science, gym, and electives. The rest of the classes will be at home and on line. So your kid might go to school one day a week and home school four days a week.
Really? What makes you think that? That would make so little sense to me. I think that teaching the basics in school like math, english, science and social studies are more important than gym and electives. Have you heard this somewhere or is this purely speculation?
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by JandJ1224
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
Of my friends who are teachers they say this isn't a great plan. Teachers aren't prepared to teach different grade material. It would also be an issue for say 5th grade teachers, they would then get moved to the back to Kindergarten.
Elementary teachers are certified to teach K-8. Yes it would be a pain to have to learn a new grade level but teachers move from grade to grade all the time. It's not the end of the world. And given the current environment it might not be a bad solution. At least they know exactly where the kids left off.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NicoleF219
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
What would make Sept 2021 any safer?
Perhaps this is the end of schools forever.
Seriously. It's getting absurd, I don't even know why schools would bother to talk about September when it's MAY. So much can change from now until then.
Schools better reopen and stay open in the fall. Kids need a REAL education, not this remote learning crap that doesn't hold a candle to being in the classroom setting.
Curious as to what you think should happen if someone in a classroom get Covid be it a kid or teacher. Does the rest of the class quarantine? Or does nothing happen?
If someone in the class gets COVID, they stay home and quarantine for 2 weeks and life moves on just as it does for the million other illnesses kids get at school from colds to flu to chicken pox.
Guys, in case anyone hasn't realized at this point, their is a VERY HIGH likelihood we're all just going to get this virus at some point and the REALITY is MOST of us will be fine after. We CANNOT close down our lives and schools and jobs forever while we wait for some rushed, half a$$ed vaccine that may never even work. This virus isn't going anywhere, it's going to just be a fact of life going forward. We cannot live in a bubble, life will have to move forward MOSTLY like NORMAL despite it.
This. I am still floored on a daily basis at the extremes we are going to over this. Waiting for a vaccine? It’s almost laughable. It could take years - or could never happen. It could be 30% effective. Half the population could refuse to get it. And we are going to keep the world shut down and watch everyone’s lives crumble while we hide in a closet waiting for a vaccine? It terrifies me that some of our leaders are of this mindset.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LSP2005
I think the schools will have some small in person classes for science, gym, and electives. The rest of the classes will be at home and on line. So your kid might go to school one day a week and home school four days a week.
How stupid would that be though, seriously. IF they can go at all, there is NO difference between going 1 day, 2 days or 5 days. I think this HAS to be all or nothing. These insane schedules, half days, remote learning nonsense will NEVER work. What do parents who work do with all of this? How do you have a job when your kid is in school 1 or 2 days, or a half day here and a half day there? Most parents aren't even remotely qualified or able to home school in the first place. This will be an EPIC $HITSHOW!
This idea of keeping schools closed isn't trivial, not letting kids return is BEYOND detrimental to their educational well being. I want my kids in school EVERY day learning and socializing because NO KID can afford to fall behind month after month and year after year.
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
I still want to know- since kids were in school in early to mid March- while this thing was spreading like wild fire- and it clearly was spreading before we shut down- spreading on trains, in NYC, on public transport, at concerts and events and just every day life- why didn't we have huge spikes of children with it?
What was happening in schools that it wasn't spreading there like wild fire?
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LSP2005
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LSP2005
I think the schools will have some small in person classes for science, gym, and electives. The rest of the classes will be at home and on line. So your kid might go to school one day a week and home school four days a week.
How stupid would that be though, seriously. IF they can go at all, there is NO difference between going 1 day, 2 days or 5 days. I think this HAS to be all or nothing. These insane schedules, half days, remote learning nonsense will NEVER work. What do parents who work do with all of this? How do you have a job when your kid is in school 1 or 2 days, or a half day here and a half day there? Most parents aren't even remotely qualified or able to home school in the first place. This will be an EPIC $HITSHOW!
This idea of keeping schools closed isn't trivial, not letting kids return is BEYOND detrimental to their educational well being. I want my kids in school EVERY day learning and socializing because NO KID can afford to fall behind month after month and year after year.
if the objective is the limit social interactions then you could get schools down to small enough that they could be socially distant. If the objective is day care, then the schools will reopen.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by lululu
Posted by JandJ1224
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
Of my friends who are teachers they say this isn't a great plan. Teachers aren't prepared to teach different grade material. It would also be an issue for say 5th grade teachers, they would then get moved to the back to Kindergarten.
Elementary teachers are certified to teach K-8. Yes it would be a pain to have to learn a new grade level but teachers move from grade to grade all the time. It's not the end of the world. And given the current environment it might not be a bad solution. At least they know exactly where the kids left off.
This is not true.
The certifications are now Birth-2nd Grade and 1st-6th Grade.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by NervousNell
I still want to know- since kids were in school in early to mid March- while this thing was spreading like wild fire- and it clearly was spreading before we shut down- spreading on trains, in NYC, on public transport, at concerts and events and just every day life- why didn't we have huge spikes of children with it?
What was happening in schools that it wasn't spreading there like wild fire?
Agreed. Like I posted previously, my co-worker was diagnosed a few days after we shut down, meaning he had it the days leading up to the closure. We are a small, cramped school in NYC. He teaches in multiple classrooms a day, was on the elevator, in the staircase, eating in the faculty room. No other teachers or students were sick until well after two weeks after we were home.
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LMichele
Posted by lululu
Posted by JandJ1224
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
Of my friends who are teachers they say this isn't a great plan. Teachers aren't prepared to teach different grade material. It would also be an issue for say 5th grade teachers, they would then get moved to the back to Kindergarten.
Elementary teachers are certified to teach K-8. Yes it would be a pain to have to learn a new grade level but teachers move from grade to grade all the time. It's not the end of the world. And given the current environment it might not be a bad solution. At least they know exactly where the kids left off.
This is not true.
The certifications are now Birth-2nd Grade and 1st-6th Grade.
And with so many people unhappy with the online instruction, I can’t imagine how much worse it would be if the teacher are trying to learn the curriculum for a totally different grade.
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LSP2005
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LSP2005
I think the schools will have some small in person classes for science, gym, and electives. The rest of the classes will be at home and on line. So your kid might go to school one day a week and home school four days a week.
How stupid would that be though, seriously. IF they can go at all, there is NO difference between going 1 day, 2 days or 5 days. I think this HAS to be all or nothing. These insane schedules, half days, remote learning nonsense will NEVER work. What do parents who work do with all of this? How do you have a job when your kid is in school 1 or 2 days, or a half day here and a half day there? Most parents aren't even remotely qualified or able to home school in the first place. This will be an EPIC $HITSHOW!
This idea of keeping schools closed isn't trivial, not letting kids return is BEYOND detrimental to their educational well being. I want my kids in school EVERY day learning and socializing because NO KID can afford to fall behind month after month and year after year.
if the objective is the limit social interactions then you could get schools down to small enough that they could be socially distant. If the objective is day care, then the schools will reopen.
You're talking about completely restructuring society.
And this particular society does not have the social programs necessary to support millions of previously working parents now on permanent unemployment because they are home bound with their children.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LMichele
Posted by lululu
Posted by JandJ1224
Posted by Katareen
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Katareen
Posted by FirstMate
What is looping?
When the teacher moves up to the next grade with their same class.
So if your child was in first grade currently, Their entire class would move to second grade together along with their first grade teacher
and what would be the point of this?
I actually do think it would be a good idea under these circumstances (assuming remote learning next year).
The teachers are already familiar with the children, their home situations...know their strengths and weaknesses in different subject areas.
It would be nearly impossible for a new teacher to learn anything about their students (and vice versa) via computer.
Of course this would only really work up until about 6-7 grade when students start to have multiple teachers.
Of my friends who are teachers they say this isn't a great plan. Teachers aren't prepared to teach different grade material. It would also be an issue for say 5th grade teachers, they would then get moved to the back to Kindergarten.
Elementary teachers are certified to teach K-8. Yes it would be a pain to have to learn a new grade level but teachers move from grade to grade all the time. It's not the end of the world. And given the current environment it might not be a bad solution. At least they know exactly where the kids left off.
This is not true.
The certifications are now Birth-2nd Grade and 1st-6th Grade.
I got my teaching license back in 2003 and it was NEVER through 8th. I am permanently certified PreK-6 under the "old regulations". I agree with above, 7th and 8th grade are middle school.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by LSP2005
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by LSP2005
I think the schools will have some small in person classes for science, gym, and electives. The rest of the classes will be at home and on line. So your kid might go to school one day a week and home school four days a week.
How stupid would that be though, seriously. IF they can go at all, there is NO difference between going 1 day, 2 days or 5 days. I think this HAS to be all or nothing. These insane schedules, half days, remote learning nonsense will NEVER work. What do parents who work do with all of this? How do you have a job when your kid is in school 1 or 2 days, or a half day here and a half day there? Most parents aren't even remotely qualified or able to home school in the first place. This will be an EPIC $HITSHOW!
This idea of keeping schools closed isn't trivial, not letting kids return is BEYOND detrimental to their educational well being. I want my kids in school EVERY day learning and socializing because NO KID can afford to fall behind month after month and year after year.
if the objective is the limit social interactions then you could get schools down to small enough that they could be socially distant. If the objective is day care, then the schools will reopen.
You're talking about completely restructuring society.
And this particular society does not have the social programs necessary to support millions of previously working parents now on permanent unemployment because they are home bound with their children.
BINGO!
It's a ridiculous proposition. Just open the schools, it's the ONLY way for any kid to get a proper education and the ONLY way that won't completely disrupt every working parent.
Schools can NEVER be socially distant, that is a pipe dream. Have you ever stepped foot into a NYC classroom???? There is a reason NYC schools are overcrowded, what do you do with the surplus of students who cannot fit into a "socially distant classroom"?
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Naturalmama
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Schools- all or nothing
My principal told us on a zoom meeting today that she now has 7th & 8th graders (I teach in a Prek-8th grade private school) emailing her themselves, saying they are depressed and scared and they want her to promise them they will be able to go to school in September. She then starts to cry because she can't promise that. The little ones in my school (PreK-2nd) cry on the zoom meetings. Children are very much being emotionally effected by this.
I understand keeping the virus at bay, but this can't be an all or nothing scenario. Children are suffering, and when I hear Cuomo, DiBlasio, & the NYC chancellor speak they think remote learning is so wonderful and sustainable.
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NervousNell
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
Posted by LMichele
Posted by NervousNell
I still want to know- since kids were in school in early to mid March- while this thing was spreading like wild fire- and it clearly was spreading before we shut down- spreading on trains, in NYC, on public transport, at concerts and events and just every day life- why didn't we have huge spikes of children with it?
What was happening in schools that it wasn't spreading there like wild fire?
Agreed. Like I posted previously, my co-worker was diagnosed a few days after we shut down, meaning he had it the days leading up to the closure. We are a small, cramped school in NYC. He teaches in multiple classrooms a day, was on the elevator, in the staircase, eating in the faculty room. No other teachers or students were sick until well after two weeks after we were home.
I would be VERY curious to have large numbers of children tested for antibodies and to see the results.(if the tests were actually accurate, which seems they are not)
Because I am willing to bet a lot more children were exposed to it before schools were shut down than we know.
Because why was the child population so largely unaffected by it as compared to adults...when kids were in school all day right up until mid March...and we know how everything from the flu to stomach bugs run rampant through schools.
Interesting.
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ChilisWife
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Re: Schools- all or nothing
I think that whoever said above that social distancing in schools is a pipe dream is absolutely correct. We are spending so much time figuring out HOW to do it (smaller classes, alternating days, etc.) and not realizing that it is not going to happen that way no matter what. We are MUCH better prepared even now, compared to where we were in March, in terms of hospitals, contact tracing, hygiene, etc. Let them go to school.
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