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meloyellow
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by sfp0701
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Great, a video that takes something out of context and makes police officers look bad. Awesome.
Makes me think of the teacher video. Both don't take the whole context and both led to people on this site bashing the professional.
not bashing the profession or the cop but how he handled it and I stand by that 100%. The same way the teacher video I posted I disagreed with how it was handled I don't see anyone BASHING all cops or all teachers. It's ridiculous that people can't comment on someone doing something wrong without being considered a basher of an entire group. How incredibly PC. There is no context needed...the guy was handcuffed and the situation under control...no force needed...END OF STORY.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
In my opinion it doesn't really matter what happened before the clip because in the moments we see before the cop grabbed his neck and shook him, the person was already subdued, calmly standing there. I don't think an officer should use force once the situation is already under control. The only thing that could have happened from that was to escalate the problem. So yes, I think the force was very excessive.
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meloyellow
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
actually it looks like he was not in fact handcuffed...but he did have his hands at his side and did not appear to be resisting or putting up any sort of fight
LMFAO...ok my husband disagrees with me...he just made me laugh so hard. DH says " to protect and serve...HE JUST GOT SERVED" LMFAO ok i had to laugh
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Mrs213
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SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by Mrs213
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
To me this is obvious.
It really bothers me that we live in a world where we assume the trained, professional cop who risks being killed everyday for his career is criticized and the random drunk who apparently has the police called to his home on the regular is pitied.
ETA: MY instinct is to question the perp, not the cop. Does this mean that EVERY cop is standup and a great cop? no but IMO more cops are on the up and up then perps.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by Bearcat
Great, a video that takes something out of context and makes police officers look bad. Awesome.
Makes me think of the teacher video. Both don't take the whole context and both led to people on this site bashing the professional.
Totally.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by Mrs213
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
To me this is obvious.
It really bothers me that we live in a world where we assume the trained, professional cop who risks being killed everyday for his career is criticized and the random drunk who apparently has the police called to his home on the regular is pitied.
ETA: MY instinct is to question the perp, not the cop. Does this mean that EVERY cop is standup and a great cop? no but IMO more cops are on the up and up then perps.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by Mrs213
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
To me this is obvious.
It really bothers me that we live in a world where we assume the trained, professional cop who risks being killed everyday for his career is criticized and the random drunk who apparently has the police called to his home on the regular is pitied.
ETA: MY instinct is to question the perp, not the cop. Does this mean that EVERY cop is standup and a great cop? no but IMO more cops are on the up and up then perps.
For me it's about what the cop said, the response from the person he was talking to and then him grabbing his throat. That looked like an officer who went to far. It was to much, and his partner stepped in. I understand the guy in question is a d-bag, and that cops deserve respect but you can't abuse that power either to make a point.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by AllyMally
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by Mrs213
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
To me this is obvious.
It really bothers me that we live in a world where we assume the trained, professional cop who risks being killed everyday for his career is criticized and the random drunk who apparently has the police called to his home on the regular is pitied.
ETA: MY instinct is to question the perp, not the cop. Does this mean that EVERY cop is standup and a great cop? no but IMO more cops are on the up and up then perps.
For me it's about what the cop said, the response from the person he was talking to and then him grabbing his throat. That looked like an officer who went to far. It was to much, and his partner stepped in. I understand the guy in question is a d-bag, and that cops deserve respect but you can't abuse that power either to make a point.
I really don't think from that clip it is fair to say he abused his power, clearly the cops have been to this house before and maybe on past visits the perp got violent and the cop felt he had to be aggressive bc of his past behavior, we do not know from a 30 second clip, we do know that the guy is drunk and the cops were called on him.
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SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Perps spit at cops, and bite ESP while under the influence. Just because he's cuffed means nothing.
It's happened to my brother while on duty, and it was done by an HIV+ scumbag.
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Mrs213
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by AllyMally
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by Mrs213
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
To me this is obvious.
It really bothers me that we live in a world where we assume the trained, professional cop who risks being killed everyday for his career is criticized and the random drunk who apparently has the police called to his home on the regular is pitied.
ETA: MY instinct is to question the perp, not the cop. Does this mean that EVERY cop is standup and a great cop? no but IMO more cops are on the up and up then perps.
For me it's about what the cop said, the response from the person he was talking to and then him grabbing his throat. That looked like an officer who went to far. It was to much, and his partner stepped in. I understand the guy in question is a d-bag, and that cops deserve respect but you can't abuse that power either to make a point.
It doesn't show what was said beforehand and when the cop is talking to him he mumbles something under his breath. I couldn't hear what he said but its obvious he said something to provoke him. You don't mouth off to a cop...
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
I think the cop is wrong in this situation. Weather he was provoked or not does not give him the right to put his hands on anybody like this. If he did something so bad he would be in jail. If somebody was provoking me and I put my hands around their neck, I could possibly get arrested for it. That police officer should not abuse his power. And let the flames begin!
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I agree Gabby (can't quote on tablet)
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by gabbygirl855
I think the cop is wrong in this situation. Weather he was provoked or not does not give him the right to put his hands on anybody like this. If he did something so bad he would be in jail. If somebody was provoking me and I put my hands around their neck, I could possibly get arrested for it. That police officer should not abuse his power. And let the flames begin!
i agree.
If he wasnt a cop i am sure the answers would be different.
I get cops deal with tons of shit but thats thier job and they should be trained to handle it.
Was the guy being a **** probably put if the cop really wanted to make a point he should have arrested him not chocked him.
I dont get why everyone is saying we need to see what happened before this how would it justify what the cop did anyway the vidoe clearly shows what exactly happened the moment before he decided to put his hand around his neck.
FTR ... i have family in law enforcement and just because of this video i dont think all cops are bad and this one probably isnt, i get he lost control fine but doesnt make it right, should he get fired over it no.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by meloyellow
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by Bearcat
Great, a video that takes something out of context and makes police officers look bad. Awesome.
Makes me think of the teacher video. Both don't take the whole context and both led to people on this site bashing the professional.
not bashing the profession or the cop but how he handled it and I stand by that 100%. The same way the teacher video I posted I disagreed with how it was handled I don't see anyone BASHING all cops or all teachers. It's ridiculous that people can't comment on someone doing something wrong without being considered a basher of an entire group. How incredibly PC. There is no context needed...the guy was handcuffed and the situation under control...no force needed...END OF STORY.
As far as the teacher video: people that are actually in the profession tried to explain what procedures the teacher was probably carrying out (phone) and why she was reacting with little emotion. The people who were calling her wrong knew nothing of classroom procedure. In this video: I agree that it looked bad but, I am reserving judging him because I am not in the profession, I don't know the procedures and I don't know the back story.
People aren't bashing all cops in this thread.. but, in the teacher thread people did bash all teachers by saying they weren't held to high enough standards and the teachers on facebook are stupid. However, it's just another example of a very small snippet of a situation being posted online in order to make a professional look bad without telling everything that happened. He could have very well been out of line. But, I just don't think I have the credentials to judge him. Let his superiors do that.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
Ok .. So I've seen this on facebook...
And I do have to say , that NO ONE knows the back story to this AT ALL .. That camera goes on conveniently when the cop is already mid sentence and god only knows what happened before this to anger him...
NONE of us know.
I should this to my FH and he said that we donn't know what happened right before this that angered him, it could have been anything..He was handcuffed so obviously there was a reason he was handcuffed ie; he probably was fighting with the cops and they were forced to restrain him .
People are sooooo quick to assume that a Police Officer is using excessive force or doing something that they aren't supposed to ...
This infuriates me !!! 
unfortunately people jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by Mrs213
I think he had to be provoked. Even the neighbors on the news said they were sick of this kids crap.
But how does that make it ok? That's abusing his authority IMO, and I don't care how much you're provoked, using that kind of physical force is unnecessary. Cops aren't infallible, and I'm actually surprised how many people have no issue with this.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
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Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
Ok .. So I've seen this on facebook...
And I do have to say , that NO ONE knows the back story to this AT ALL .. That camera goes on conveniently when the cop is already mid sentence and god only knows what happened before this to anger him...
NONE of us know.
I should this to my FH and he said that we donn't know what happened right before this that angered him, it could have been anything..He was handcuffed so obviously there was a reason he was handcuffed ie; he probably was fighting with the cops and they were forced to restrain him .
People are sooooo quick to assume that a Police Officer is using excessive force or doing something that they aren't supposed to ...
This infuriates me !!!
unfortunately people jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
So wait a second, cops have a right to curse out people and strangle peoples throats? Regardless of this "back story" he does not have a right to do that. If the perp was that that bad whatever, he would have additional charges against him and do more time in jail. This is why we have a system so people like him can do time. Yes, people are dumb put it doesn't mean the cop can go to another level because he is in authority.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by blu6385
Posted by gabbygirl855
I think the cop is wrong in this situation. Weather he was provoked or not does not give him the right to put his hands on anybody like this. If he did something so bad he would be in jail. If somebody was provoking me and I put my hands around their neck, I could possibly get arrested for it. That police officer should not abuse his power. And let the flames begin!
i agree.
If he wasnt a cop i am sure the answers would be different.
I get cops deal with tons of shit but thats thier job and they should be trained to handle it.
Was the guy being a **** probably put if the cop really wanted to make a point he should have arrested him not chocked him.
I dont get why everyone is saying we need to see what happened before this how would it justify what the cop did anyway the vidoe clearly shows what exactly happened the moment before he decided to put his hand around his neck.
I don't need to see anything else to know that the cop was out of line.
He is trained to handle the manner as best he can.
Given that the douchee bag punk wasn't doing anything but mouthing off, the cop was out of line for putting his hands on him. That’s enough for me to see that the cop was wrong.
Clearly, if this assshole was doing something illegal or dangerous, the cop wouldn’t be telling him that the ‘next time I come back I’m arresting you’. If the cop was in danger prior to the recording of this video, then he would be arresting this fool on the spot.
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by Hope2009
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
Ok .. So I've seen this on facebook...
And I do have to say , that NO ONE knows the back story to this AT ALL .. That camera goes on conveniently when the cop is already mid sentence and god only knows what happened before this to anger him...
NONE of us know.
I should this to my FH and he said that we donn't know what happened right before this that angered him, it could have been anything..He was handcuffed so obviously there was a reason he was handcuffed ie; he probably was fighting with the cops and they were forced to restrain him .
People are sooooo quick to assume that a Police Officer is using excessive force or doing something that they aren't supposed to ...
This infuriates me !!!
unfortunately people jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
If the guy grabbed the cop would you be huming the same tune?
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by Hope2009
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
Ok .. So I've seen this on facebook...
And I do have to say , that NO ONE knows the back story to this AT ALL .. That camera goes on conveniently when the cop is already mid sentence and god only knows what happened before this to anger him...
NONE of us know.
I should this to my FH and he said that we donn't know what happened right before this that angered him, it could have been anything..He was handcuffed so obviously there was a reason he was handcuffed ie; he probably was fighting with the cops and they were forced to restrain him .
People are sooooo quick to assume that a Police Officer is using excessive force or doing something that they aren't supposed to ...
This infuriates me !!!
unfortunately people jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
If the guy grabbed the cop would you be huming the same tune?
Self defense can be justified.
In this case, the kid seems to have his hands behind his back the whole time if the talking
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
I can see both sides.. I wish I just really knew the whole entire story! 
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
We don't know the entire story. One thing I do know is  I love a spicy man in uniform.
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LIVINMYDREAM
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
Posted by BabyBoy
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by Hope2009
Posted by LIVINMYDREAM
Ok .. So I've seen this on facebook...
And I do have to say , that NO ONE knows the back story to this AT ALL .. That camera goes on conveniently when the cop is already mid sentence and god only knows what happened before this to anger him...
NONE of us know.
I should this to my FH and he said that we donn't know what happened right before this that angered him, it could have been anything..He was handcuffed so obviously there was a reason he was handcuffed ie; he probably was fighting with the cops and they were forced to restrain him .
People are sooooo quick to assume that a Police Officer is using excessive force or doing something that they aren't supposed to ...
This infuriates me !!!
unfortunately people jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.
If the guy grabbed the cop would you be huming the same tune?
Self defense can be justified.
In this case, the kid seems to have his hands behind his back the whole time if the talking
AGAIN I will say, No one knows the back story to this whole incident. So to say that the Officer is completely unjustified is just wrong.
And to answer your question, it is ILLEGAL for a perp to put his hands on a Police Officer in anyway so of course I wouldn't be singing the same tune. These men and women go out every single day and risk their lives for us and these very people that are crying Police Brutality. For what !!!??? To constantly have their namesdragged through the mud for taking care of business while onthe job! This kid has a very long criminal history and has many issues. His own Family says that he's trouble!
I'm not going to say there aren't extreme cases,however this is NOT one of those cases by any means!
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Re: SCPD Cop getting a little out of hand
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Posted by meloyellow
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by Bearcat
Great, a video that takes something out of context and makes police officers look bad. Awesome.
Makes me think of the teacher video. Both don't take the whole context and both led to people on this site bashing the professional.
not bashing the profession or the cop but how he handled it and I stand by that 100%. The same way the teacher video I posted I disagreed with how it was handled I don't see anyone BASHING all cops or all teachers. It's ridiculous that people can't comment on someone doing something wrong without being considered a basher of an entire group. How incredibly PC. There is no context needed...the guy was handcuffed and the situation under control...no force needed...END OF STORY.
As far as the teacher video: people that are actually in the profession tried to explain what procedures the teacher was probably carrying out (phone) and why she was reacting with little emotion. The people who were calling her wrong knew nothing of classroom procedure. In this video: I agree that it looked bad but, I am reserving judging him because I am not in the profession, I don't know the procedures and I don't know the back story.
People aren't bashing all cops in this thread.. but, in the teacher thread people did bash all teachers by saying they weren't held to high enough standards and the teachers on facebook are stupid. However, it's just another example of a very small snippet of a situation being posted online in order to make a professional look bad without telling everything that happened. He could have very well been out of line. But, I just don't think I have the credentials to judge him. Let his superiors do that.
People didn't...one person did. I know I certainly didn't. And so what if some teachers on FB are total idiots. why is that even something that pisses other teachers off if someone says it? there are idiots in every profession...even teachers and authority figures.
As far as this cop video goes...I truly don't understand people saying "well we don't know what happened / have the full context". IMO there is no more needed. If he disobeyed the law more than just a minor infraction...lock his ass up! It's simple. It's not an officers job to say "I'm not gonna lock you up today so I'll just rough up on you instead. Unacceptable. If he did anything to warrant being choked he should be in jail. If he were resisting arrest and trying to run away then sure hold him on the ground or against a wall and get a bit physical, if your life is in danger do whatever you need to...but that was not the case here. The situation, in that moment was under control. The fact that it's being investigated just tells you that the SCPD obviously sees a breach of protocol otherwise they would just dismiss it.
People lose control sometimes. I'm sure he's probably a good person. He just lost control. I don't want him to lose his job over it...but maybe he needs some anger management or re-training.
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