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june262004
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Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Because he got caught on the "to catch a predator show"
IS SHE ON CRACK...
The best part is he was an assistant prosecutor. He had child porn on his computer and went to meet what he thought was a child sent the child pictures of younger man NAKED saying it was him and she is gonna sue NBC 
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
she's probably a PREvert too...yes, I meant to say PRE...LOL.
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:15 PM |
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Tany
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
wow
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:16 PM |
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CunningOne
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Am I the only one who has NO idea what this post is about? 
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:18 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by chmlengr
Am I the only one who has NO idea what this post is about?
The show to catch a predator Im sorry I thought everyone knew what that show was 
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:20 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
MURPHY, Texas: A sting in which police teamed up with the "Dateline NBC" television show to catch online pedophiles was supposed to send a warning to other pedophiles. Instead, it has turned into a fiasco.
One of the 25 men caught in the sting — a prosecutor from a neighboring county — committed suicide when police came to arrest him. The city manager who approved the operation lost his job in the ensuing furor.
And the district attorney is refusing to prosecute any of the men, saying many of the cases were tainted by the involvement of amateurs.
"Certainly these people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but the fact that this was all done for television cameras raises some questions," said Mayor Bret Baldwin.
It is the first time in nine "Dateline NBC: To Catch a Predator" stings across the United States in the past year and a half that prosecutors did not pursue charges.
"Dateline" has made prime-time entertainment out of contacting would-be child molesters over the Internet, luring them to a meeting place, and videotaping their humiliating confrontations with reporter Chris Hansen.
"Dateline" works with an activist group called Perverted Justice, which supplies adults who frequent Internet chat rooms, posing as underage boys and girls, and try to collect incriminating sex talk.
City manager Craig Sherwood approved such an operation in this well-to-do community of 11,000 after being approached by "Dateline" and Perverted Justice, but he never informed the mayor or the City Council. He said secrecy was necessary for the sting to be effective.
Over four days in November, 24 men were arrested at a home in one of Murphy's newer neighborhoods after allegedly arranging to meet boys or girls there.
Some other suspects contacted Perverted Justice decoys online but never showed up at the house. Among them was Louis Conradt Jr., an assistant prosecutor from neighboring Kauffman County, who allegedly engaged in a sexually explicit online chat with an adult posing as a 13-year-old boy.
As police knocked at his door and a "Dateline" camera crew waited in the street, Conradt shot himself.
His sister, Patricia Conradt, told the City Council that police acted as "a judge, jury and executioner that was encouraged by an out-of-control reality show."
Then, last month, Collin County District Attorney John Roach dropped all charges. He said that in 16 of the cases, he had no jurisdiction, since neither the suspects nor the decoys were in the county during the online chats.
As for the rest of the cases, he said neither police nor NBC could guarantee the chat logs were authentic and complete.
"The fact that somebody besides police officers were involved is what makes this case bad," said Roach, who was informed of the sting in advance but did not participate. "If professionals had been running the show, they would have done a much better job rather than being at the beck and call of outsiders."
As details of the suicide emerged, Murphy's mayor, City Council and most of its residents learned for the first time that potential molesters were being lured to their city. Many were furious.
"They can chase predators all they want, but they shouldn't do it in a populated area with children, two blocks from an elementary school," said Lisa Watson, 33, who lives down the road from the sting house and has three children.
Two weeks ago, the City Council voted to buy out the city manager's contract for $255,000 (€189,351).
NBC's Hansen said Murphy is the only place the show has encountered such resistance.
"I don't want to get involved in the DA's business or the police business," he said. "I can tell you in the other locations, these issues did not come up."
Eric Nichols, a Texas deputy attorney general, said that when law enforcement authorities pull an Internet sex sting, officers posing as decoys follow strict rules. Detailed chat logs are kept to ensure that "sex talk" is initiated by the potential predator. That way, a defendant cannot claim entrapment.
Eric Chase, a defense attorney specializing in sex crimes, said stings are the job of police, not TV crews. "Police should not be abdicating a very important function to either private organizations or entertainment organizations," he said.
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:22 PM |
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MrsPornStar
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
I saw this one.
This man's sister is CRAZY. Yes, he killed himself, because he was CAUGHT with child pornography and knew that it was wrong and he would lose his job.
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:32 PM |
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CunningOne
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by june262004
Posted by chmlengr
Am I the only one who has NO idea what this post is about?
The show to catch a predator Im sorry I thought everyone knew what that show was
Ah, thanks. At first I was like I hardly watch TV.
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| Posted 9/5/07 11:32 PM |
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luvsbob4603
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Dh and I watch this show, I think the sister should realize her brother was a sick man.
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| Posted 9/6/07 6:26 AM |
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MissJones
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Sorry, he shot himself and his family must be grieving because I'm sure they loved him, but why the hell was he carrying a gun if he was going to meet a child?
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| Posted 9/6/07 6:29 AM |
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Emily
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Last time I checked an individual has to sign a release for their face or likeliness to be used on a television. At the very least they need to be asked if their face or likeliness can be used on tv. Even if they are a pervert! 
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| Posted 9/6/07 8:12 AM |
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seank80
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
From what I know of the case. They let the guy walk out of the sting house because of who he was. It took them a few days to get a warrant. They got the warrant and were going to his house to arrest him. They showed up with the swat team and sat there for a while before going in. I think he should have been arrested at that house and then he wouldn't have been able to kill himself until after he was released on bond.
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| Posted 9/6/07 8:14 AM |
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Kara
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by MissJones
Sorry, he shot himself and his family must be grieving because I'm sure they loved him, but why the hell was he carrying a gun if he was going to meet a child?
I believe he was home when he killed himself -- at least, according to the article.
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| Posted 9/6/07 8:20 AM |
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Elizabeth
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
This article reads like he never showed up at the house but was engaging in illicit coversations on line with what he thought was a teenage boy. Did he actually come to the house or not? I'd need to read another article to be sure bc it's a lot different than him showing up. If he didn't, how do they know it was him on line? Did he have a webcam and was broadcasting himself?? Were they caught up in trying to sting a public official? That's where I don't get enough info from this article alone to tell what was going on...
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:01 AM |
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suvenR
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
According to the article, he never showed up at the sting house.
Doesn't anyone think there might be some merit to the sister's case??
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:04 AM |
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seank80
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by suvenR
According to the article, he never showed up at the sting house.
Doesn't anyone think there might be some merit to the sister's case??
He may have never showed up but he talked with an underage person in a sexual manner. Right there it should be a crime. And he was the one that killed himself. Everyone wants to sue everyone else. If he didn't feel he was guilty then he should have surrended and then went through the court system like everyone else.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:07 AM |
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Emily
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by suvenR
According to the article, he never showed up at the sting house.
Doesn't anyone think there might be some merit to the sister's case??
Yes, ITA!!! Not everyone who sues corporations is a crack pot. She can sue in criminal court and if she is not successful take them to civil court for damages.
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
I heard about this a while ago. it was particularly intersting to DH and I because his brother, wife and their 13 yr old daughter live in Murphy.
I agree that this was a sick man and thank goodness he never harmed anyone.
however, do you really feel that it's the medias job to entrap people? 
eta: the way we originally heard the story, the media came to his house with cameras, there were no police agents there.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:16 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by seank80
Posted by suvenR
According to the article, he never showed up at the sting house.
Doesn't anyone think there might be some merit to the sister's case??
He may have never showed up but he talked with an underage person in a sexual manner. Right there it should be a crime. And he was the one that killed himself. Everyone wants to sue everyone else. If he didn't feel he was guilty then he should have surrended and then went through the court system like everyone else.
by having the camera crew show up his house, he would never get a fair trial. he was already assumed guilty.
IMO, these reality shows are out of control! it's all done for RATINGS! and that IMO is BS!
leave criminal invetstigations to the cops!
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And the district attorney is refusing to prosecute any of the men, saying many of the cases were tainted by the involvement of amateurs.
"Certainly these people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but the fact that this was all done for television cameras raises some questions," said Mayor Bret Baldwin.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:22 AM |
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seank80
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
by having the camera crew show up his house, he would never get a fair trial. he was already assumed guilty.
IMO, these reality shows are out of control!
and if you read further on in the article, the show never follows up to tell people that 1/2 of the ones who are caught never get charged!
it's all done for RATINGS! and that IMO is BS!
leave criminal invetstigations to the cops!
I don't think predator stings like this are top priority on the cops plate. If these people come to the house then they were going to do something with a child. Even if one person who would normally do this is deterred then I think the show made a difference. One less child that will possibly end up screwed up for life. As for him being assumed guilty it was a risk he took when speaking with an underage child in a chatroom. I am sorry I have no sympathy for these people. I think it is sad that half of them are never charged. We shouldn't be saying boo to the show...we should be saying what the hell is wrong with the justice system.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:29 AM |
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suvenR
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by seank80
He may have never showed up but he talked with an underage person in a sexual manner. Right there it should be a crime. And he was the one that killed himself. Everyone wants to sue everyone else. If he didn't feel he was guilty then he should have surrended and then went through the court system like everyone else.
It was not proven that he talked to anyone inappropriately. Who's to say it was even HIM on that computer?
Although, I do agree with you that it was his own choice to kill himself and that, IMO, does point to guilt.
However, IMO, sending the cops to his house was more of a TV stunt than an actual investigation, considering there are many many many people online everyday engaging in inappropriate dialogue. It almost seems like if NBC isn't involved, no one will be knocking those doors.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:29 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by seank80
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
by having the camera crew show up his house, he would never get a fair trial. he was already assumed guilty.
IMO, these reality shows are out of control!
and if you read further on in the article, the show never follows up to tell people that 1/2 of the ones who are caught never get charged!
it's all done for RATINGS! and that IMO is BS!
leave criminal invetstigations to the cops!
I don't think predator stings like this are top priority on the cops plate. If these people come to the house then they were going to do something with a child. Even if one person who would normally do this is deterred then I think the show made a difference. One less child that will possibly end up screwed up for life. As for him being assumed guilty it was a risk he took when speaking with an underage child in a chatroom. I am sorry I have no sympathy for these people. I think it is sad that half of them are never charged. We shouldn't be saying boo to the show...we should be saying what the hell is wrong with the justice system.
as much as I feel that there is no worse crime than a child molestor, I completley disagree with this show! just read the excerpt I added to my last post.
how is this helping?? let the cops do their job!
if these suspects faces are plastered all over TV, that in itself could be ruled a mistrial! this show IMO is doing more damage than good.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:32 AM |
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seank80
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by suvenR
It was not proven that he talked to anyone inappropriately. Who's to say it was even HIM on that computer?
Although, I do agree with you that it was his own choice to kill himself and that, IMO, does point to guilt.
However, IMO, sending the cops to his house was more of a TV stunt than an actual investigation, considering there are many many many people online everyday engaging in inappropriate dialogue. It almost seems like if NBC isn't involved, no one will be knocking those doors.
Let's not get this twisted. These guys all were not sitting at home watching tv when all of a sudden an underage child knocked at their door. The men weren't angels in this case and they ended up getting put on the tv. Public embarassment in 2007 is the same as being put in the stocks back in the day. Once again he happened to get caught in this scam. We will never catch all of these bastards but if a few get caught and publicized then so be it.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:33 AM |
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seank80
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
as much as I feel that there is no worse crime than a child molestor, I completley disagree with this show! just read the excerpt I added to my last post.
how is this helping?? let the cops do their job!
if these suspects faces are plastered all over TV, that in itself could be ruled a mistrial! this show IMO is doing more damage than good.
Unfortunately if dateline didn't do anything, then I feel as if nothing owuld have been done. I don't think there are many police forces out there doing investigations like this.
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| Posted 9/6/07 9:36 AM |
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Re: Sister sue's NBC after brother kills himself....
That sis is a wacko... What about all those poor children out there, that he might have did bad things tooo... the best thing he did was kill himself. My own opinion is those people can not be fixed.
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