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randella
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
Posted by baghag
Interesting responses!
I thought it might be a birth order thing. The first born kids are usually more independent than the youngest and it seems to be true based on the posts here, and in my family too.
I agree with this helpless generation thing-- but I feel like these kids are a bit younger than 24. I see it more so with parents than kids though-- since it is actually a result of a change in parenting style.
In terms of birth order- I disagree though. I am the youngest and I feel like my brother was less independent in some areas.
Also, once I was post college- I appreciate my parents help, but expected nothing. My bro, expects it-- and still does if he needed it!!
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
Posted by Moehick
The news is reporting that people aged 24 and under are part of this generation where all their parents did was praise and coddle them. Now that they are entering the workforce they can't take criticism of any kind and cry at the drop of a hat.
This morning the news reported that a large number of new college graduates actually have their parents attend job fairs and hand out their resume for them!
I'm 23... my parents did the complete opposite of praise and coddle LOL.
They actually put me down a lot and whenever something bad happened- it was ALWAYS my fault LOL.
Not to say that this is a good way to be but I'm quite the opposite to what they state is the "norm" for my age group.
HOWEVER, I have seen that happen with a lot of people around my age-- and a lot who are younger-- but personally- I'm definitely not one of them. So, I do agree and can vouch for witnessing stuff like that myself- but for me, thank God, it was not like that.
My parents always thought: if we tear her down- it will make her stronger! lol
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
I agree that there are a lot of early to mid-twenty year olds who are like this but I wouldn't say all. I also think a lot of them have this thinking of entitlement that they don't need to work their a$$ off or pay their dues to get ahead. The best is when some of these kids think they are geniuses and are never wrong.  
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
I also totally agree, and see it getting worse. My neices and nephews are all spoiled brats who have no idea what the word "no" means and are constantly told how great they are.
What I feel for these people is nothing but pity. These are people who will never have the feelign of accomplishing ANYTHING!!! Driving around in a BMW at 20? Please.
I think that there is nothing more important to a person's happiness than a sense of accomplishment - that you did something and did it on your own. PEople of this generation will never know what that is like. That is truly sad.
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
I know helpless men in their late 20s, 30s, 40s and even 50s. And I know 1 helpless woman (in her 30s). I think moms tend to baby their 'lilttle boys' more which is why there are SO many helpless men out there
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
My 21 year old nephew is just like that. He thinks everyone owes him. He had a cell phone bill for $350 because he never received the bill and it was 2 months before he figured it out. He decided that was too much to pay for his cell phone so he didn't pay it. Now he can't get another cell phone or anything for that matter. I was trying to tell him how this stuff will bite him in the butt down the road. He owed the money but he didn't get it that it was 3 months plus fees that he owed.
He works a job that pays crap and has no plans for a better one.
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meghanmetz
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
As a 25 year old (just one year above that cutoff), who has worked her @ss off for the past four years as a CPA (and I didnt need my mom or dad to hand out my resume), and is a homeowner, I would take exception to this for myself, but I do know plenty who fit this mold.
It all stems from how someone is raised, and honestly, reading this just makes me even more proud of myself for everything that my husband and I have been able to accomplish on our own.
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Goldi0218
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
Posted by Ophelia
I agree with this 10000%. and I saw this coming from 10 miles away.
there is something about "tough love" at times that just prepares you better for life.
Surely, this idea in the OP is not a universal, but I see it as being an issue to an extent.
They talked about this on the Radio Chick show yesterday. They mentioned the youth soccer leagues where there are no losers. Everyone gets a trophy. Um people win and people lose. When you win it is great. When you lose, you get sad and then you move on - get some coping skills. Those who cannot cope, perhaps need a different kind of support. It is a fine thing to instill positive self-esteem in a child, but you have to do more than just exist to do it. Life is full of winning and losing experiences and everyone cannot always be on top all the time. Losing helps a person to appreciate winning.
They also said that as this generation ages, they are finding it hard to cope in the real world job market. Bosses have to walk on eggshells with their employees complimenting them for doing nothing more than showing up because many of them have had their hands held for so long. Some managers with underlings are forced to write thank you notes of support just for doing what is expected. Personally, I find it insulting and condescending when my supervisors compliment me for knowing how to do my job.
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VirginiaDeb
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
it's not everyone... but many... my siblings are prime examples.
My dad and step-mom do not know how to say no to them... and now my brother likely won't be graduating, and my sister is in danger of failing 2 classes.
yet, they still have their cars, computers, etc.
It drives me nuts.
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BaroqueMama
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
I have a hard time lumping an entire generation of people together, so I can't exactly say I agree. I do see a trend in my everyday life of parents being much more involved and bordering on overbearring, but as far as I see it, this is our new reality. We can complain about it and call these kids helpless and lazy, or we can just choose to deal with them differently and move forward. We have to face the fact that the reality of our lives when we were just entering the workforce is not the current reality, just as it wasn't the same as when previous generations entered the workforce. Don't you remember "Generation X"? It's always going to be something, as far as I'm concerned.
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05mommy09
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
Well I have to disagree, esp. considering that I am 23 years old. Have put myself through college(while maintaing a full time job), lead a happy married life, mother an amazing little boy, take care and uphold a mental/emotionally unstable parent, basically care for my younger siblings (since mom isnt always able too, and dad had been away), make my way i(n 4 years) to a management position w/in my company: over women who have been there 20+ years.. and so on and so on...
Do I call my parents/Il's for there POV on things ABSOLUTELY but only because I appreciate hearing what their take on the situation is- not AT ALL because I need them to "help" me.
My mom was def. a "coddler" and I believe at my age I am pretty damn successful!!!
I got to where I am today completly on my own (with lots of encouragement from my mommy  )
While I do have friends who are no where near where I am at- I have friends who have accomplished just as much, if not more!
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pharmcat2000
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
Posted by Moehick
The news is reporting that people aged 24 and under are part of this generation where all their parents did was praise and coddle them. Now that they are entering the workforce they can't take criticism of any kind and cry at the drop of a hat.
This morning the news reported that a large number of new college graduates actually have their parents attend job fairs and hand out their resume for them!
I have a friend who's son is 19 and in a very prestigious college. I can totally see her doing this! She checks his school e-mail all the time to be sure he is doing everything he should be as far as assignments, registering etc. 
Another thought: do you think parents who do these things for their children put them at an unfair advantage? Since the person doing these things is a BTDT person, has experience and does things right rather than a 20-something who is trying to figure it all out? You know, if one child does his homework alone and another has it checked and corrected by a parent, does he really deserve a better grade?
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pharmcat2000
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
Posted by starhead
These are people who will never have the feelign of accomplishing ANYTHING!!! Driving around in a BMW at 20? Please.
I think that there is nothing more important to a person's happiness than a sense of accomplishment - that you did something and did it on your own. PEople of this generation will never know what that is like. That is truly sad.
ITA. This is why I won't take my DD on extravagant vacations, or just give her elaborate gifts. We will take family vacations, but IMO there is no reason she needs to go to Hawaii, for example when she is 12! What is left for her to look forward to?
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Re: So what do you think of the "Helpless" Generation?
All I know that if it's 24 and under that includes my students now and all I can say is  
In 11 years of teaching in my district I have never ever EVER seen a group this bad before. I have had groups before that were not bright but they were nice. NOT THIS YEAR. Not only are they not bright they are NASTY and think that the world OWES them EVERYTHING.
June 14th can't come fast enough!
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