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Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Very interesting to me.

Statistical Update for the 2006-2007 School Year. From NY DOE.

Below are School Districts with the percentage of White Students broken out in different categories.

Majority-Minority Districts or under 50% White
Lawrence, Malverne, Amityville, Baldwin, Herricks, Bayshore, Valley Stream 24, Valley Stream Central, Westbury, Elmont, Valley Stream 13, Sewanakha, Central Islip, Uniondale, Roosevelt, Wyandanch, Copiague, Freeport, Hempstead, Glen Cove, Valley Stream 30.

Districts between 50% and 59.9% White
New Hyde Park-Garden City Park, West Hempstead, Huntington, East Hampton, Riverhead, Hicksville, South Country, Springs, Greenport.

Districts between 60% and 69.9% White
Southampton, Longwood, North Babylon, William Floyd, Deer Park, East Meadow, Great Neck, Port Washington, Long Beach, Huntington Bays, South Huntington.

Districts between 70% and 79.9% White
Half Hollow Hills, Roslyn, Floral Park, Manhasset, Island Park, Brookhaven-Comsewogue, Jericho, Elwood, Farmingdale, Hewlett-Woodmere, Mineola, Oyster Bay, Rockville Centre, Syosset.

Districts between 80% and 89.9% White
Sag Harbor, Three Village, Babylon, North Bellmore, North Shore, Bethpage, Westhampton Beach, Oceanside, Plainview-Old Bethpage, Island Trees, Harborfields, Levittown, Middle Country, East Rockaway, Hauppauge, North Merrick, Sachem, Lindenhurst, East Williston, Franklin Square, Connetquot, Commack, Locust Valley, Lynbrook, Carle Place, West Babylon, Islip.

Districts between 90% and 100% White

Massapequa, Shoreham-Wading River, Northport-East Northport, Rocky Point, Kings Park, Mattituck-Cutchogue, West Islip, East Moriches, Miller Place, Garden City, Bayport-Bluepoint, Wantagh, East Islip, Eastport-South Manor,
Cold Spring Harbor, Seaford, Mt. Sinai, Bellmore, Plainedge, Smithtown, Southold, Sayville, Port Jefferson, Bellmore-Merrick High School District.

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Not surprised by this really.. the towns I know fall where I thought they would. I don't see Brentwood or Pat-Med though..

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Posted 3/22/08 10:12 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

I'm not surprised all that much.. However, I'm confused by Lawrence & Elwood.. Can someone explain this?

Posted 3/22/08 10:32 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

I went to Miller Place, we had MAYBE one kid who wasn't white per gradeChat Icon

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Posted 3/22/08 10:39 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by rojerono

Not surprised by this really.. the towns I know fall where I thought they would. I don't see Brentwood or Pat-Med though..





Yea, I don't see Pat-Med either.

Posted 3/22/08 10:40 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Three Village is also a little skewed - they dont count Asian as white - and there is about 10% asian students - so white and aisan is like 99% - not very diverse, and that is the one worry i have about this district when i send my kids

Posted 3/22/08 10:48 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by HLT407

I'm not surprised all that much.. However, I'm confused by Lawrence & Elwood.. Can someone explain this?



Elwood feels about right. It neighbors Commack, Harborfields, HHH and Huntington, all of which are in the groupings above and below Elwood.

Lawrence -- many people who live in the district send their children to private, religious schools instead of public schools.

Now Herricks, that really confuses me Chat Icon

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Posted 3/22/08 11:03 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

I am surprised about LawrenceChat Icon

Posted 3/22/08 11:04 AM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by ihilani

ow Herricks, that really confuses me Chat Icon



Herricks is a VERY diverse and very good district.

Posted 3/22/08 11:29 AM
 

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Message edited 9/18/2009 1:07:22 AM.

Posted 3/22/08 12:04 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by Meaghan729

Three Village is also a little skewed - they dont count Asian as white -




They don't count Asian as white, because they are not white, they are Asian. Chat Icon


Herricks is a great district.

Posted 3/22/08 12:11 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

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I am surprised about LawrenceChat Icon



All of the white Jewish people that live in Lawrence do not send their kids to the public schools. The vast majority, if not all, go to religious Hebrew schools.

Lawrence schools are known for this problem.... the tax payers don't use the district so they keep voting down the budget and the school district is having big issues.

Posted 3/22/08 12:20 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by donegal419

Posted by 5ofClubs

I am surprised about LawrenceChat Icon



All of the white Jewish people that live in Lawrence do not send their kids to the public schools. The vast majority, if not all, go to religious Hebrew schools.

Lawrence schools are known for this problem.... the tax payers don't use the district so they keep voting down the budget and the school district is having big issues.



Yes, my cousin is the Deputy Mayor of Lawrence. It's very sad what has happened to that district. Twenty years ago they were phenomenal and had unbelievable programs... they have experienced so many cuts they have been bled dry Chat Icon

Not surprised that the district I teach in is over 90%Chat Icon It is not affluent, solidly middle class. If I didn't know any better I would swear something not right is going onChat Icon It's in a very desirable location on the island, middle of the road prices, small district and it is something like 98% white (I think that was the figure I saw on the latest census at a faculty meetingChat Icon ).

In this day and age, when a class is discussing a certain culture you would hope and think a student of that culture would be present in the room or at least in the school.

Posted 3/22/08 1:03 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

very interesting, thanks for posting this

Posted 3/22/08 1:27 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Majority-Minority Districts or under 50% White
Lawrence, Malverne, Amityville, Baldwin, Herricks, Bayshore, Valley Stream 24, Valley Stream Central, Westbury, Elmont, Valley Stream 13, Sewanakha, Central Islip, Uniondale, Roosevelt, Wyandanch, Copiague, Freeport, Hempstead, Glen Cove, Valley Stream 30.


Wow Valley Stream has changed dramatically in the past 10 years.

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Posted 3/22/08 1:31 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Overall not surprised! It matches the local democraphy and in richer areas many kids go to private schools anyway.

Posted 3/22/08 4:12 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

They dont say what the other ethnicites are. I went to one of the schools in the first category - Herricks - and I can pretty much tell you that even though about 50% may be white, the other 50% is not all that diverse either. Asian and Indian students have been at the top of the class for as long as I can remember. When I graduated from there, there was one African American student in 4 grades and maybe a half dozen or so Latino students. The taxes are VERY high in that district as my mother still lives there and pays them. The teachers command a very high salary. I think the info is skewed and not presented in its entirety.

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Posted 3/22/08 6:07 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by Erica

Posted by Meaghan729

Three Village is also a little skewed - they dont count Asian as white -




They don't count Asian as white, because they are not white, they are Asian. Chat Icon


Herricks is a great district.



thats not what I meant - I meant Three Village comes in the 80%-89% category, so you think it has the same makeup as Lindenhurst (i have family in that district).

Lindenhurst has a mix of white, polish, spanish.
Three Village has a larger Aisan population - so its mostly White, than asian, than nothing really else, I wouldnt consider that diverse

Posted 3/22/08 6:24 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Not surprised that the district I teach in is over 90%Chat Icon It is not affluent, solidly middle class. If I didn't know any better I would swear something not right is going onChat Icon It's in a very desirable location on the island, middle of the road prices, small district and it is something like 98% white (I think that was the figure I saw on the latest census at a faculty meetingChat Icon ).



i am confused as to why you would use the "mad" face Chat Icon to describe the district based on the percentage. if it were 90% black, asian, etc, that "statement" wouldn't be acceptable. maybe i'm reading it wrong which is why i ask so as not to assume

i don't see the point of posting these statistics except for information. i would never move into or out of a district based on them. i would never choose my teaching position based on them. i judge districts where i live and work on the quality of education, crime/discipline situations, programs offered, etc. % of white students (or any other race) would never cross my mind and i would never judge a district as good or bad based on this information. i don't think a 100% white district is bad, and i don't think a 10% white district is bad. districts are so much more than race

Posted 3/22/08 7:44 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

I went to Cold Spring Harbor for a few years and in High School (grades 7-12)

There was ONE 1/2 African American 1/2 French student. Chat Icon

I'm talking the entire school 7th - 12th grades!!!

ETD for spelling

Message edited 3/22/2008 7:56:18 PM.

Posted 3/22/08 7:52 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

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Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Not surprised that the district I teach in is over 90%Chat Icon It is not affluent, solidly middle class. If I didn't know any better I would swear something not right is going onChat Icon It's in a very desirable location on the island, middle of the road prices, small district and it is something like 98% white (I think that was the figure I saw on the latest census at a faculty meetingChat Icon ).



i am confused as to why you would use the "mad" face Chat Icon to describe the district based on the percentage. if it were 90% black, asian, etc, that "statement" wouldn't be acceptable. maybe i'm reading it wrong which is why i ask so as not to assume

i don't see the point of posting these statistics except for information. i would never move into or out of a district based on them. i would never choose my teaching position based on them. i judge districts where i live and work on the quality of education, crime/discipline situations, programs offered, etc. % of white students (or any other race) would never cross my mind and i would never judge a district as good or bad based on this information. i don't think a 100% white district is bad, and i don't think a 10% white district is bad. districts are so much more than race



I posted the mad face because it is just NOT reality and honestly, not a daygoes by where I hear the most ignorant comments from my students about other races. Inflamatory comments. One year a bunch of students dressed in BLACKFACE and went as the Jackson 5 for Halloween. I was shocked and went directly to administration. If they had a more multicultural experience I seriously doubt they would have even attempted such a constume.

There are no million dollar homes in my district. They are priced at average or slightly below average for Nassau county. It is easily accessible to parkways, shopping, the city, the beach, it has it's own LIRR station. The district is desirable because it is very small and there is a small community feeling. I am sure there is some crime but overall it is a very safe place.

So why is it 98% white?.

It's just NOT reality and the homogeity of such a district and the lack of daily interaction with a diversity of peoples ARE the reasons for the ignorance and racism I hear from students. That's the reason for the mad face. I believe the students in that town are being denied the life experience of living among the ethinic and racial heterogenity many will encounter as they enter adulthood. I just hope they don't take their stereotypes with them.

I agree A LOT with what KellyFG said above... very good points.



Posted 3/22/08 8:26 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

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Posted by browneyedgirl

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Not surprised that the district I teach in is over 90%Chat Icon It is not affluent, solidly middle class. If I didn't know any better I would swear something not right is going onChat Icon It's in a very desirable location on the island, middle of the road prices, small district and it is something like 98% white (I think that was the figure I saw on the latest census at a faculty meetingChat Icon ).



i am confused as to why you would use the "mad" face Chat Icon to describe the district based on the percentage. if it were 90% black, asian, etc, that "statement" wouldn't be acceptable. maybe i'm reading it wrong which is why i ask so as not to assume

i don't see the point of posting these statistics except for information. i would never move into or out of a district based on them. i would never choose my teaching position based on them. i judge districts where i live and work on the quality of education, crime/discipline situations, programs offered, etc. % of white students (or any other race) would never cross my mind and i would never judge a district as good or bad based on this information. i don't think a 100% white district is bad, and i don't think a 10% white district is bad. districts are so much more than race



I posted the mad face because it is just NOT reality and honestly, not a daygoes by where I hear the most ignorant comments from my students about other races. Inflamatory comments. One year a bunch of students dressed in BLACKFACE and went as the Jackson 5 for Halloween. I was shocked and went directly to administration. If they had a more multicultural experience I seriously doubt they would have even attempted such a constume.

There are no million dollar homes in my district. They are priced at average or slightly below average for Nassau county. It is easily accessible to parkways, shopping, the city, the beach, it has it's own LIRR station. The district is desirable because it is very small and there is a small community feeling. I am sure there is some crime but overall it is a very safe place.

So why is it 98% white?.

It's just NOT reality and the homogeity of such a district and the lack of daily interaction with a diversity of peoples ARE the reasons for the ignorance and racism I hear from students. That's the reason for the mad face. I believe the students in that town are being denied the life experience of living among the ethinic and racial heterogenity many will encounter as they enter adulthood. I just hope they don't take their stereotypes with them.

I agree A LOT with what KellyFG said above... very good points.






thank you for explaining.

but i would say that 90% of their racial stereotypes (IMO) and feelings stem from their PARENTS, not because of who they do or don't live among. being among the same race doesn't make you a racist, growing up with parents who speak hatred is what makes you that way.

Posted 3/22/08 8:30 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

Posted by Meaghan729

Posted by Erica

Posted by Meaghan729

Three Village is also a little skewed - they dont count Asian as white -




They don't count Asian as white, because they are not white, they are Asian. Chat Icon


Herricks is a great district.



thats not what I meant - I meant Three Village comes in the 80%-89% category, so you think it has the same makeup as Lindenhurst (i have family in that district).

Lindenhurst has a mix of white, polish, spanish.
Three Village has a larger Aisan population - so its mostly White, than asian, than nothing really else, I wouldnt consider that diverse



Most Polish people are white, so I guess Lindenhurst is basically all white an a little Spanish? Not very diverse either.

Posted 3/22/08 9:09 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

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but i would say that 90% of their racial stereotypes (IMO) and feelings stem from their PARENTS, not because of who they do or don't live among. being among the same race doesn't make you a racist, growing up with parents who speak hatred is what makes you that way.



This is probably the most intelligent statement made on this thread. Living among a majority of a race of people does not make you hate other races, it's the teachings given by their role models that makes the difference.

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Posted 3/22/08 9:37 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......

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Posted by Meaghan729

Posted by Erica

Posted by Meaghan729

Three Village is also a little skewed - they dont count Asian as white -




They don't count Asian as white, because they are not white, they are Asian. Chat Icon


Herricks is a great district.



thats not what I meant - I meant Three Village comes in the 80%-89% category, so you think it has the same makeup as Lindenhurst (i have family in that district).

Lindenhurst has a mix of white, polish, spanish.
Three Village has a larger Aisan population - so its mostly White, than asian, than nothing really else, I wouldnt consider that diverse



Most Polish people are white, so I guess Lindenhurst is basically all white an a little Spanish? Not very diverse either.



They are limited english - FROM Poland and their parents just emigrated.

I guess I am trying to say just because two schools are in the same category, they still may not be as diverse as each other.

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