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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by MrsFlatbread
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but i would say that 90% of their racial stereotypes (IMO) and feelings stem from their PARENTS, not because of who they do or don't live among. being among the same race doesn't make you a racist, growing up with parents who speak hatred is what makes you that way.
This is probably the most intelligent statement made on this thread. Living among a majority of a race of people does not make you hate other races, it's the teachings given by their role models that makes the difference.
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There is some truth to this however when the role models are parents that have followed a pattern for generations of living in 99% white areas there is no lesson of equality being demonstrated.
I posted this info because I came across it while the Malverne post from the other day was fresh in my mind. Most of the districts that are the most diverse on the ones that get comments like "I wouldn't send my kids there" or "I heard they have gangs" from people here on LIF that have never lived, worked or known anyone with children currently attending the district.
I stand my ground, people on LI judge areas & towns by race not fact. The rumor mill of nonsense keeps on rolling with rag papers like Newsday & corrupt test grading & reporting and people repeating trash they heard from someone else.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by KellyFG
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Posted by browneyedgirl
but i would say that 90% of their racial stereotypes (IMO) and feelings stem from their PARENTS, not because of who they do or don't live among. being among the same race doesn't make you a racist, growing up with parents who speak hatred is what makes you that way.
This is probably the most intelligent statement made on this thread. Living among a majority of a race of people does not make you hate other races, it's the teachings given by their role models that makes the difference.
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There is some truth to this however when the role models are parents that have followed a pattern for generations of living in 99% white areas there is no lesson of equality being demonstrated.
I posted this info because I came across it while the Malverne post from the other day was fresh in my mind. Most of the districts that are the most diverse on the ones that get comments like "I wouldn't send my kids there" or "I heard they have gangs" from people here on LIF that have never lived, worked or known anyone with children currently attending the district.
I stand my ground, people on LI judge areas & towns by race not fact. The rumor mill of nonsense keeps on rolling with rag papers like Newsday & corrupt test grading & reporting and people repeating trash they heard from someone else.
I couldn't agree more Kelly. Well stated. It is so frustrating.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by KellyFG
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Posted by browneyedgirl
but i would say that 90% of their racial stereotypes (IMO) and feelings stem from their PARENTS, not because of who they do or don't live among. being among the same race doesn't make you a racist, growing up with parents who speak hatred is what makes you that way.
This is probably the most intelligent statement made on this thread. Living among a majority of a race of people does not make you hate other races, it's the teachings given by their role models that makes the difference.
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There is some truth to this however when the role models are parents that have followed a pattern for generations of living in 99% white areas there is no lesson of equality being demonstrated.
I posted this info because I came across it while the Malverne post from the other day was fresh in my mind. Most of the districts that are the most diverse on the ones that get comments like "I wouldn't send my kids there" or "I heard they have gangs" from people here on LIF that have never lived, worked or known anyone with children currently attending the district.
I stand my ground, people on LI judge areas & towns by race not fact. The rumor mill of nonsense keeps on rolling with rag papers like Newsday & corrupt test grading & reporting and people repeating trash they heard from someone else.
ITA. Some people talk about towns they don't live in or that they lived in 20 years ago when they were kids.
Many towns have changed a lot in recent years.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
IM really confused...where does it say they are bad school districts due to the percentage of white students?
I dont equate racialy background with a good or bad district. Maybe I am reading it wrong....
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by Lisa
IM really confused...where does it say they are bad school districts due to the percentage of white students?
I dont equate racialy background with a good or bad district. Maybe I am reading it wrong....
It doesn't say anything about good or bad. Its simply stats of white students.
I find it interesting that many of the districts that are commonly accused of being "bad" have very high minority populations.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by Lisa
IM really confused...where does it say they are bad school districts due to the percentage of white students?
I dont equate racialy background with a good or bad district. Maybe I am reading it wrong....
You are not wrong. That's the whole thing.
Nowhere does it say that the disctrict with less "white" are not good schoold districts.
People just assume this is the case.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
I posted the mad face because it is just NOT reality and honestly, not a daygoes by where I hear the most ignorant comments from my students about other races. Inflamatory comments. One year a bunch of students dressed in BLACKFACE and went as the Jackson 5 for Halloween. I was shocked and went directly to administration. If they had a more multicultural experience I seriously doubt they would have even attempted such a constume.
There are no million dollar homes in my district. They are priced at average or slightly below average for Nassau county. It is easily accessible to parkways, shopping, the city, the beach, it has it's own LIRR station. The district is desirable because it is very small and there is a small community feeling. I am sure there is some crime but overall it is a very safe place.
So why is it 98% white?.
It's just NOT reality and the homogeity of such a district and the lack of daily interaction with a diversity of peoples ARE the reasons for the ignorance and racism I hear from students. That's the reason for the mad face. I believe the students in that town are being denied the life experience of living among the ethinic and racial heterogenity many will encounter as they enter adulthood. I just hope they don't take their stereotypes with them.
I agree A LOT with what KellyFG said above... very good points.
Okay - so you have mentioned why the district you work in is appealling to people. And you mention that you are puzzled that there isn't more diversity. But is it fair to 'blame' the community or the district for that lack of diversity?
I believe that there must be schools where there are 90-100% minorities. Is it the fault of those school districts or residents that there isn't more diversity reflected in the student body in those places?
Tah-wee-ZAH, the rest of my post is not about your post, so please do not read it that way.
There is some allusion to the idea that people who live in mostly white communities are perpetuating racism because of the lack of diversity in the districts. Or that they chose to live in these communities to AVOID diversity. And you know what - this is true of MANY communities. My girlfriend moved to Long Island and she wanted to live in a particular neighborhood in Brentwood because there were others who shared her cultural and ethnic background. I have another friend who lives in the 5 Towns area because he shares a sense of community there with people who he identified with because of his religion. I would not classify either of them as racist or exclusionary.
Having said that - I moved to my town for a lot of reason - but the ethnic makeup NEVER came into play for a second. I have made a number of friends in this town and not one of them moved here because it is a 'white' community. I don't know WHY the town is so culturally and racially lopsided - but I don't blame myself and I don't blame my neighbors. It is what it is.
And now that my son is in school, I do sometimes worry that he isn't getting exposure to the 'real world' - but then I remember that it is my job to make sure he understands that the world isn't comprised of blonde hair and blue eyes. And I think I am doing a pretty good job.
Having said that - I also agree with Kelly.
There was a post on my hometown the other day and people were putting down the school district. But the district is not bad and it is improving all the time! And there is not a doubt in my mind that the thought that it is 'bad' comes from the idea that it is one of those schools with a racial make-up of 50% or more minorities.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
IMO I don't think people having an interest in associating with others who share their religion, culture, likes, dislikes, hobbies automatically makes someone intolerant of others who are not like them, not at all. I personally believe that would be an extremely unfair and judgemental assumption. IMO it is just as equally unfair to generalize about a district or a town simply based on the LACK of diversity in the town/SD just as you wouldn't want a town/SD put down and generalizations made about for HAVING diversity.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by KellyFG
There is some truth to this however when the role models are parents that have followed a pattern for generations of living in 99% white areas there is no lesson of equality being demonstrated.
I posted this info because I came across it while the Malverne post from the other day was fresh in my mind. Most of the districts that are the most diverse on the ones that get comments like "I wouldn't send my kids there" or "I heard they have gangs" from people here on LIF that have never lived, worked or known anyone with children currently attending the district.
I stand my ground, people on LI judge areas & towns by race not fact. The rumor mill of nonsense keeps on rolling with rag papers like Newsday & corrupt test grading & reporting and people repeating trash they heard from someone else.
Well said! I completely agree.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
A misunderstanding...
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by nov04libride
This really upsets and disgusts me. How about re-reading the post before bringing it up in ANOTHER THREAD, when you asked for no clarification in the original thread, or bothered to point out your surprise so I could have clarified my point. My exact words were "It does seem good in that it is very diverse, and nearly half the students receive free or reduced price lunches. " I knew it was diverse based on the percentages, though I did not post them, but to assume that I was thinking it was diverse based on free lunches is disgusting. Had I been asked how I knew of the diversity, I would have explained to you that I saw the percentages before you posting that I am in effect a racist.
The word AND was used because one had nothing to do with another, and I pointed out that it was diverse both in terms of minorities and economic backgrounds as AS A GOOD POINT!!!!! The fact that YOU made the leap that the low income equates with minority really says more about you than the sentence, because the sentence did not say or imply that the minorities are the ones receiving free lunches.
I cannot believe that this was brought up in another thread without you asking me first. It really just disgusts me. Perhaps you wouldn't have been so shocked had you bothered to find out the truth...
You are correct, I should never have assumed that you were basing the idea of diversity on the fact that there were free and reduced price lunches. I missed the "and" in that sentence completely. I was wrong and I apologize for misreading your post and I apologize if I hurt your feelings of if my representation and misinterpretation made you appear to be something that you are not.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
well, i think people often forget that "not" white also means asian, indian, etc.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
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Three Village is also a little skewed - they dont count Asian as white -
They don't count Asian as white, because they are not white, they are Asian.
Herricks is a great district.
thats not what I meant - I meant Three Village comes in the 80%-89% category, so you think it has the same makeup as Lindenhurst (i have family in that district).
Lindenhurst has a mix of white, polish, spanish.
Three Village has a larger Aisan population - so its mostly White, than asian, than nothing really else, I wouldnt consider that diverse
Most Polish people are white, so I guess Lindenhurst is basically all white an a little Spanish? Not very diverse either.
They are limited english - FROM Poland and their parents just emigrated.
I guess I am trying to say just because two schools are in the same category, they still may not be as diverse as each other.
Polish is not a race.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by BlessedMommy
Majority-Minority Districts or under 50% White
Lawrence, Malverne, Amityville, Baldwin, Herricks, Bayshore, Valley Stream 24, Valley Stream Central, Westbury, Elmont, Valley Stream 13, Sewanakha, Central Islip, Uniondale, Roosevelt, Wyandanch, Copiague, Freeport, Hempstead, Glen Cove, Valley Stream 30.
Wow Valley Stream has changed dramatically in the past 10 years.
When I went there, 20 yrs ago, it was 100%.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
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Majority-Minority Districts or under 50% White
Lawrence, Malverne, Amityville, Baldwin, Herricks, Bayshore, Valley Stream 24, Valley Stream Central, Westbury, Elmont, Valley Stream 13, Sewanakha, Central Islip, Uniondale, Roosevelt, Wyandanch, Copiague, Freeport, Hempstead, Glen Cove, Valley Stream 30.
Wow Valley Stream has changed dramatically in the past 10 years.
When I went there, 20 yrs ago, it was 100%.
Yep I went there 13 years ago and it was the same as you.
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Re: Speaking of racial diversity in LI schools......
Posted by SweetTooth
Polish is not a race.
I would still include that into ethnic diversity 
which makes my point, that the statistics cant just be looked at by number, there is alot more behind the numbers.
I would say that my children would have more to learn about cultural diversity from a student FROM poland rather than an american born (2nd generation, perhaps 3rd) Aisan student, yet since Aisan is considered another race in the statistics, kwim?
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