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DancinBarefoot
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Can someone please explain to me how a substance that is partially comprised of urea (which is toxic) and can be irritating to the skin is neverthless sterile??

This makes no sense to me.

While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.

Message edited 11/24/2008 3:12:05 PM.

Posted 11/24/08 3:11 PM
 
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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

It is considered sterile because it doesn't contain bacteria.

Posted 11/24/08 3:13 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by Stacey1403

It is considered sterile because it doesn't contain bacteria.



But that's not always true is it??? I mean if you have a UTI is it still sterile???

(Thank you for taking the question seriously and answering)

Posted 11/24/08 3:16 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Urea is toxic and can be irritating to skin and eyes. High concentrations in the blood can cause damage to organs of the body. Low concentrations of urea such as in urine are not dangerous.

Posted 11/24/08 3:17 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

You are right a UTI and yeast infection would make it not sterile.


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Posted 11/24/08 3:17 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

It may not be sterile but it lets you know where dogs have been come winter time. I had a white dog growing up and this info was rather handy.

Posted 11/24/08 3:20 PM
 

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Posted by Goldi0218

It may not be sterile but it lets you know where dogs have been come winter time. I had a white dog growing up and this info was rather handy.



Hmmmm, I think I am going to tell my kid to eat yellow snow. Dog urine is sterile, otherwise they would wipe.

Posted 11/24/08 3:22 PM
 

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Did everyone start drinking early? Chat Icon

Posted 11/24/08 3:23 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Many sterile things irritate the skin. Bleach is a good example. Like a PP mentioned, sterile means no bacteria. There are many toxic chemicals that don't support bacteria.

Gasoline, rubbing alcohol, Hydrochloric acid, etc, etc.

Posted 11/24/08 3:23 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

I read that urine is only sterile to the person that produces it??????Chat Icon
All I know is that is is yellow and smells so I choose to clean it up.

Posted 11/24/08 3:33 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by DancinBarefoot


While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



Want to comment on this part-- "potentially toxic" could also describe wipes, many of which have many chemicals in them. This is why I don’t use them for most urine diapers. I don’t need even more chemicals on her.

Message edited 11/24/2008 4:49:18 PM.

Posted 11/24/08 4:48 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by Kerie-is-so-very

Posted by Goldi0218

It may not be sterile but it lets you know where dogs have been come winter time. I had a white dog growing up and this info was rather handy.



Hmmmm, I think I am going to tell my kid to eat yellow snow. Dog urine is sterile, otherwise they would wipe.



On a side note here, I had several friends in college whose grandparents were from India and they drank their own urine because they believed it put valuable stuff (nutrients? vitamins? I don't remember what the "stuff" was) back in their body. I don't know how healthy that is, but those people lived to be well into their 90s!

Posted 11/24/08 4:52 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by DancinBarefoot



While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



It seems like we are going back into the Chat Icon mode with questions like this. As per my DOCTOR, who I trust knows what he is talking about, it is NOT necessary to wipe them when they pee...if you want to, you can, but it is not necessary. My dd has had MAYBE 3 diaper rashes, I think I am doing okay in the diaper changing

bottom line, do what works for you

Posted 11/24/08 4:57 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

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Posted by DancinBarefoot



While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



It seems like we are going back into the Chat Icon mode with questions like this. As per my DOCTOR, who I trust knows what he is talking about, it is NOT necessary to wipe them when they pee...if you want to, you can, but it is not necessary. My dd has had MAYBE 3 diaper rashes, I think I am doing okay in the diaper changing

bottom line, do what works for you



ITA with this completely! I'm not judging those who DO use wipes, but definitely feel judged by some who DO NOT use wipes. But it doesn't bother me at all Chat Icon

Posted 11/24/08 4:59 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by nbc188

Posted by Mikismom

Posted by DancinBarefoot



While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



It seems like we are going back into the Chat Icon mode with questions like this. As per my DOCTOR, who I trust knows what he is talking about, it is NOT necessary to wipe them when they pee...if you want to, you can, but it is not necessary. My dd has had MAYBE 3 diaper rashes, I think I am doing okay in the diaper changing

bottom line, do what works for you



ITA with this completely! I'm not judging those who DO use wipes, but definitely feel judged by some who DO NOT use wipes. But it doesn't bother me at all Chat Icon



ITA with this as well!

And my DS has only had 1 diaper rash too.

Posted 11/24/08 5:00 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by KateDevine

Posted by nbc188

Posted by Mikismom

Posted by DancinBarefoot



While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



It seems like we are going back into the Chat Icon mode with questions like this. As per my DOCTOR, who I trust knows what he is talking about, it is NOT necessary to wipe them when they pee...if you want to, you can, but it is not necessary. My dd has had MAYBE 3 diaper rashes, I think I am doing okay in the diaper changing

bottom line, do what works for you



ITA with this completely! I'm not judging those who DO use wipes, but definitely feel judged by some who DO NOT use wipes. But it doesn't bother me at all Chat Icon



ITA with this as well!

And my DS has only had 1 diaper rash too.



Ditto -- although DD hasn't had any diaper rashes.

Whatever, do what you want but snarky comments are unnecessary. Unless you get your kicks that way.

Posted 11/24/08 5:12 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by karacg



Whatever, do what you want but snarky comments are unnecessary. .



precisely.....Chat Icon

Posted 11/24/08 6:52 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by DancinBarefoot

Can someone please explain to me how a substance that is partially comprised of urea (which is toxic) and can be irritating to the skin is neverthless sterile??

This makes no sense to me.

While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



urine is sterile as it leaves the kidneys. as it passes out of the body, it inevitably collects some bacteria from the genitals.

this is why when you clean yourself and pee into a cup, it's called a 'clean catch' but not a 'sterile' catch. if you want it truly sterile, you have to use a catheter.

there is no connection between sterililty of a liquid and whether or not it's irritating.

there are lots of potentially irritating compounds in urine, but mostly it's the moisture that compromises the integrity of the skin and makes the skin irritated.

hope that helps!

Posted 11/24/08 7:08 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by Mikismom

Posted by karacg



Whatever, do what you want but snarky comments are unnecessary. .



precisely.....Chat Icon



I have to agree! No need for the snark!

Posted 11/24/08 8:48 PM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by Goldi0218

It may not be sterile but it lets you know where dogs have been come winter time. I had a white dog growing up and this info was rather handy.

Dang Leslie, for a white dog, she sure left a lot of color everywhere she went Chat Icon

Posted 11/24/08 10:28 PM
 

DancinBarefoot
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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by nbc188

Posted by DancinBarefoot


While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



Want to comment on this part-- "potentially toxic" could also describe wipes, many of which have many chemicals in them. This is why I don’t use them for most urine diapers. I don’t need even more chemicals on her.



I've said on numerous occasions that I don't use wipes. I use soap and water with a washcloth. I do my best to avoid excess chemicals as well.

Posted 11/25/08 12:14 AM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

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Posted by DancinBarefoot

Can someone please explain to me how a substance that is partially comprised of urea (which is toxic) and can be irritating to the skin is neverthless sterile??

This makes no sense to me.

While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



urine is sterile as it leaves the kidneys. as it passes out of the body, it inevitably collects some bacteria from the genitals.

this is why when you clean yourself and pee into a cup, it's called a 'clean catch' but not a 'sterile' catch. if you want it truly sterile, you have to use a catheter.

there is no connection between sterililty of a liquid and whether or not it's irritating.

there are lots of potentially irritating compounds in urine, but mostly it's the moisture that compromises the integrity of the skin and makes the skin irritated.

hope that helps!




I typed out this whole long response only to lose my whole post....went back into said post and this time chose to read the whole thread...I should have known you would have been able to say it better than I ever could...Chat Icon

Posted 11/25/08 12:58 AM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by DancinBarefoot

Posted by nbc188

Posted by DancinBarefoot


While we're at it, it makes no sense to me that you wouldn't wipe up something that is potentially toxic.



Want to comment on this part-- "potentially toxic" could also describe wipes, many of which have many chemicals in them. This is why I don’t use them for most urine diapers. I don’t need even more chemicals on her.



I've said on numerous occasions that I don't use wipes. I use soap and water with a washcloth. I do my best to avoid excess chemicals as well.



And again, that's your choice. I personally don't use soap & water at each of DD's diaper changes b/c I can't imagine washing myself "down there" that many times a day with soap & water and therefore can't imagine doing it to my DD. I personally would think that was drying-- but obviously it works for your DD, so that's great! To each their own.

No one's questioning your parenting decisions but definitely are feeling that you're questioning ours in this situation. But as others said on here, it doesn't bother me.

Message edited 11/25/2008 7:11:07 AM.

Posted 11/25/08 7:08 AM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

what is the big deal if you use wipes for pee or not. Actually I find that using the wipes to wipe their face all the time dries them out, so I only use wipes for poo diapers and if they are really wet from the urine.

Posted 11/25/08 7:22 AM
 

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Re: Spin-off to the Pee/Wipes post

Posted by Diane

what is the big deal if you use wipes for pee or not. Actually I find that using the wipes to wipe their face all the time dries them out, so I only use wipes for poo diapers and if they are really wet from the urine.



Yeah - I can't really understand why people care anyway. To each her own! I don't know if i would feel differently if i had a girl - it seems a lot of the moms that insist you MUST use a wipe have girls, but i very rarely wipe my son if only has a pee diaper. Maybe that's because there is less chance for infection? I don't know.... Maybe I just don't care about his dignity. Diapers are SUPER absorbent and I change him very frequently. I just really don't see the need if he is dry. And he has had diaper rash but only when he's had bad poopy problems - it had nothing to do with the fact that i didn't use a wipe on his toxic pee pee diaper.

Posted 11/25/08 8:09 AM
 
 

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