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june262004
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by KellyFG
Kristin, in life and as parents, especially as a step-parent we have to choose our battles. Trust me, not only are you not a mother(correct?) but you DON'T know my stepdaughter. Thank you though for the parenting tips.
I'm not going to lie & tell everyone I never buy bottled water. I buy it on a very limited basis. I don't live alone however I do the shopping for my household. I'm with the group of people that believe boycotting a few items in an attempt to save the environment is not the way to get the job done. Exclude what you can, use other things in moderation or on a necessity basis. I think growing more produce than my family can eat, raising chickens that lay eggs for my family and many other action steps I have taken over the last several years afford me the opportunity to make my own choices regarding environmental issues.
ETS-there have been many studies done that show reusing water bottles release toxins that cause signifgant health problems.
OH ya silly me! Me being able to not have children just got in the way of my having an opinon I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS! 
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
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I drink bottled water WHILE driving my SUV.
flame away!
was this really necessary? why are you making a mockery of a serious issue?
geez it was just a joke. to me, its not a serious issue. if that makes me a bad person, then so be it. I recycle my bottles, I truly think that tap water on LI is cancerous.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Meaghan729
I truly think that tap water on LI is cancerous.
I could argue the issues from both sides, especially with a MIL who is a double masectomy breast cancer survivor. However, if you get your tap water from a water company, and not a well, the water is highly regulated and extremely safe. JMO.
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SweetTooth
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
I drink bottled water WHILE driving my SUV.
flame away!
was this really necessary? why are you making a mockery of a serious issue?
geez it was just a joke. to me, its not a serious issue. if that makes me a bad person, then so be it. I recycle my bottles, I truly think that tap water on LI is cancerous.
I don't see how the environment is not a serious issue, but to each her own.
Your statement about tap water being dangerous and comparing it to cigarettes, IMO is ridiculous. People have been drinking the water from our aquifers for THOUSANDS of years. Is everone dying from cancer? Do you really think if there were carcinogens in the water, it would be available for public consumption?
Just FYI, the water actually is tested for carcinogens, and if they were present in any kinds of amounts you would be aware. The water authority issues a report for public viewing about the quality of the water.
You'll find no such thing for bottled water.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
I drink bottled water WHILE driving my SUV.
flame away!
was this really necessary? why are you making a mockery of a serious issue?
geez it was just a joke. to me, its not a serious issue. if that makes me a bad person, then so be it. I recycle my bottles, I truly think that tap water on LI is cancerous.
I don't see how the environment is not a serious issue, but to each her own.
Your statement about tap water being dangerous and comparing it to cigarettes, IMO is ridiculous. People have been drinking the water from our aquifers for THOUSANDS of years. Is everone dying from cancer? Do you really think if there were carcinogens in the water, it would be available for public consumption?
Just FYI, the water actually is tested for carcinogens, and if they were present in any kinds of amounts you would be aware. The water authority issues a report for public viewing about the quality of the water.
You'll find no such thing for bottled water.
well, on my list of serious issues, the environment falls behind other things, such as War, economy, etc. But thats just me.
I didn't compare smoking to drinking water. I said years ago people didnt think smoking caused cancer - and it does! you can test that water all you want - I do not think it is safe to drink. I think it tastes like chlorine and rust. I know too many people with cancer. The water authority is a government entity, and I dont trust them. I think it is hard to argue there isn't a cancer problem in our area.
I think its unfair to call people who drive SUVs and drink out of water bottles to be awful people. i recycle. the end.
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june262004
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
I drink bottled water WHILE driving my SUV.
flame away!
was this really necessary? why are you making a mockery of a serious issue?
geez it was just a joke. to me, its not a serious issue. if that makes me a bad person, then so be it. I recycle my bottles, I truly think that tap water on LI is cancerous.
I don't see how the environment is not a serious issue, but to each her own.
Your statement about tap water being dangerous and comparing it to cigarettes, IMO is ridiculous. People have been drinking the water from our aquifers for THOUSANDS of years. Is everone dying from cancer? Do you really think if there were carcinogens in the water, it would be available for public consumption?
Just FYI, the water actually is tested for carcinogens, and if they were present in any kinds of amounts you would be aware. The water authority issues a report for public viewing about the quality of the water.
You'll find no such thing for bottled water.
well, on my list of serious issues, the environment falls behind other things, such as War, economy, etc. But thats just me.
I didn't compare smoking to drinking water. I said years ago people didnt think smoking caused cancer - and it does! you can test that water all you want - I do not think it is safe to drink. I think it tastes like chlorine and rust. I know too many people with cancer. The water authority is a government entity, and I dont trust them. I think it is hard to argue there isn't a cancer problem in our area.
I think its unfair to call people who drive SUVs and drink out of water bottles to be awful people. i recycle. the end.
I tend to agree... the end
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
DH and I just got these in the mail. We ordered them the other day after watching an episode of "The Biggest Loser" and plan to use them instead of water bottles now....Naglene and Brita paired up to make this...
FILTER FOR GOOD
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| Posted 1/9/08 8:17 PM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Meaghan729
well, on my list of serious issues, the environment falls behind other things, such as War, economy, etc. But thats just me.
I didn't compare smoking to drinking water. I said years ago people didnt think smoking caused cancer - and it does! you can test that water all you want - I do not think it is safe to drink. I think it tastes like chlorine and rust. I know too many people with cancer. The water authority is a government entity, and I dont trust them. I think it is hard to argue there isn't a cancer problem in our area.
I think its unfair to call people who drive SUVs and drink out of water bottles to be awful people. i recycle. the end.
I never called anyone awful. I think the situation is awful and wish more would be done about it and people would be more aware.
There is a cancer "problem" everywhere. Cancer has been around forever, its not until recently it was diagnosed as such. And if you follow your argument, then who is to say that bottled water is not causing cancer?
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by june262004
Posted by KellyFG
Kristin, in life and as parents, especially as a step-parent we have to choose our battles. Trust me, not only are you not a mother(correct?) but you DON'T know my stepdaughter. Thank you though for the parenting tips.
I'm not going to lie & tell everyone I never buy bottled water. I buy it on a very limited basis. I don't live alone however I do the shopping for my household. I'm with the group of people that believe boycotting a few items in an attempt to save the environment is not the way to get the job done. Exclude what you can, use other things in moderation or on a necessity basis. I think growing more produce than my family can eat, raising chickens that lay eggs for my family and many other action steps I have taken over the last several years afford me the opportunity to make my own choices regarding environmental issues.
ETS-there have been many studies done that show reusing water bottles release toxins that cause significant health problems.
OH ya silly me! Me being able to not have children just got in the way of my having an opinion I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS!
I realize that you may have been just giving your "opinion" but I know my stepchild & I know my desire to do what I believe right for our environment. I think its a little over the top to suggest that I try forcing my stepdaughter to drink tap water by offering her nothing else. My opinion is that unless you've raised a stepchild that is incredibly strongminded & dealt with the complicated issues associated with being a step-parent I think you're out of line to judge me. After all what I admitted to is hardly a crime.
I'm sorry if I offended you in regard to "not being able to have a child" I honestly had no idea that there was an issue. But when you are a straight shooter, you should expect similarly frank responses.
I hope you'll accept my apology & we can move on. 
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by Meaghan729
I drink bottled water WHILE driving my SUV.
flame away!
was this really necessary? why are you making a mockery of a serious issue?
geez it was just a joke. to me, its not a serious issue. if that makes me a bad person, then so be it. I recycle my bottles, I truly think that tap water on LI is cancerous.
I don't see how the environment is not a serious issue, but to each her own.
Your statement about tap water being dangerous and comparing it to cigarettes, IMO is ridiculous. People have been drinking the water from our aquifers for THOUSANDS of years. Is everone dying from cancer? Do you really think if there were carcinogens in the water, it would be available for public consumption?
Just FYI, the water actually is tested for carcinogens, and if they were present in any kinds of amounts you would be aware. The water authority issues a report for public viewing about the quality of the water.
You'll find no such thing for bottled water.
well, on my list of serious issues, the environment falls behind other things, such as War, economy, etc. But thats just me.
I didn't compare smoking to drinking water. I said years ago people didnt think smoking caused cancer - and it does! you can test that water all you want - I do not think it is safe to drink. I think it tastes like chlorine and rust. I know too many people with cancer. The water authority is a government entity, and I dont trust them. I think it is hard to argue there isn't a cancer problem in our area.
I think its unfair to call people who drive SUVs and drink out of water bottles to be awful people. i recycle. the end.
I respect your choice to do what is right for you & your family. I agree with not trusting the gov to ensure our safety, we need to inform & look out for ourselves.
I do believe that the cancer clusters on LI are directly related to environmental fiascos that occured near the cluster areas & are not widely discussed. For example the northville spill in south/east setauket....it was a big story back then & we all "assumed" they made it right. I have my doubts about that site as well as many others.
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MegZee
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
I respect your choice to do what is right for you & your family. I agree with not trusting the gov to ensure our safety, we need to inform & look out for ourselves.
I do believe that the cancer clusters on LI are directly related to environmental fiascos that occured near the cluster areas & are not widely discussed. For example the northville spill in south/east setauket....it was a big story back then & we all "assumed" they made it right. I have my doubts about that site as well as many others.
Thank you for respecting my choice, considering I live in Setauket - no one wants to drink my water
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SweetTooth
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
I'd just like to say, as a final thought, that I started this thread because I was taken aback by the fact that someone goes through 35 bottles a week. I can understand everyone has their different opinions, I just wish that those opinions came from fact instead of hearsay. But of course, everyone what will choose what they think is best for themselves and for their families, because of that should always come first. But I am asking if sometimes you could look at the bigger picture.
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browneyedgirl
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by SweetTooth
I was looking at the thread about how people consume water, and I have to say I was completely taken aback by the amount of people that use bottled water. Bottled water is one of the BIGGEST waste products in the country.
One poster said she goes through 35 bottles A WEEK!! Thats almost 2000 bottles a year. How can this not disturb you?
There is absolutely not ONE shred of evidence that tap water causes any kind of disease. To the contrary, municipal water has tons of regulations, while bottled water has NONE. Someone could take water out of their toilet and sell it to you as bottled water.
If you are that concerned though, put a filter on your tap or in your fridge and use that. If you're going out then get reusable water bottle.
well said lauren!
i love tap water! i have bottled water for emergency in my basement, but i refill bottles everyday to bring to work.
tap water is safer than unregulated bottled water and IMO tastes much better. think about the water people used to drink before there were water plants
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Meaghan729
and people also thought smoking wouldnt kill you either - look how that turned out.
there is research that shows cancer clusters on LI - maybe the water has something to do with it, maybe it doesnt. im not taking my chances.
I do recycle my bottles.
my Mom only drank tap water- she lived to be 54
not many people know this- but Setauket, yes that highly diserable town on the north shore- has a Superfund Clean up site in it- some great guy dumped air plane waste into the ground
and just to add- we lived about 1 mile from Northville (oil spill) tell me there isn't a connection????
so no, I don't drink the water- and I get Poland Spring deilvered- they reuse those water cooler bottles- and I take my water with me in reusable coffee mugs and rubbermaid bottles - so it's not like I use a new bottle everyday
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by SweetTooth
I'd just like to say, as a final thought, that I started this thread because I was taken aback by the fact that someone goes through 35 bottles a week. I can understand everyone has their different opinions, I just wish that those opinions came from fact instead of hearsay. But of course, everyone what will choose what they think is best for themselves and for their families, because of that should always come first. But I am asking if sometimes you could look at the bigger picture.
The way the OP is phrased sounds a bit preachy and judgemental. It kind of came across as a "Standing on my soapbox" type post, yet you took it a step further by taking one person's comment on another thread and asked how we could not be disturbed by their choices and actions. "How can this not disturb you?" was your exact wording. That is nothing if not judgemental.
If people are getting defensive, I think it is in response to how you phrased what you said. It was not "Let's brainstorm about ways to reduce our carbon footprint for 2008!", it was "Can you believe one of our posters creates THAT much garbage because she drinks so much bottled water?!"
Honestly, in this world I am more concerned about the short-term consequences of mankind turning against one another rather than my long-term carbon footprint.
I do what I can, but perhaps if we all thought more before we talked and wrote, the world (online and RL) would be a kinder place.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
but seriously
why stop with bottle water?
why not come out against all drinks in 1 time use containers- soda, snapple, etc
why not say all cars are bad- not just SUVs- mine gets about 23 mpg- which I bet is better then alot of other cars on the road- so why not just say all cars are bad????
to me this is just scape goating - like the red scare
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
I only buy bottled water if I am at the mall or something like that.
it's the biggest waste of $ out there IMO
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by dita
I'm guilty of it. But I recycle them.
I thought it was ok as long as your recycle them. No?
The waste from the actual bottle is only part of the problem. You also have to factor in the energy used to make the bottles, the energy used by the plant to bottle the water, the fuel that is used to transport the bottles from the plant to the stores, the energy used by the stores, the fuel used by you to transport the water from the store to your house. Or the fuel used by the delivery truck to bring the bottles from the storage facility to your house.
those bottles of water provide jobs to many people who support their families.
to say it is not cost effective is 1 thing, but breaking it down the way you did is a bit much IMO.
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Kierasmom
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Personally I drink bottled water because I know way too many people who grew up in my town that have suffered from cancer, specifically breast cancer. And the town I grew up has some of the worst water on the island. As a matter of fact they had sent a letter out saying don't drink the water, it's dangerous. This scares me. Yes I don't know where some of the bottled water comes from. But until I hear a report about the bottled water that I drink being dangerous I will continue to drink it.
I recycle my water bottles. We don't drink any soda in our house so we're not wasting there. We also wash out and recycle cans, pans, containers, anything that we can recycle we do. I also just started recently no longer using plastic bags and have bought the tote bags that the stores are selling to get my grocerys.
I recycle and shred papers at work so as to not just throw away things. I don't take paper bags when I get sandwiches or bagels for my meals unless it's too much for me to carry. I do my best when I can. But I will not after seeing my grandmother lose her life to cancer drink the Long Island tap water. That's my choice and until a report comes out that tells me that the bottled water that I consume is more dangerous than the tap water I will stick by my choice and enjoy without feeling guilty. Because I know that I still do more than the majority of the people in this country to save the environment
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
We have reusable water bottles for this reason, as well. I honestly prefer the taste of tap water over bottled water any day. And who the hell really knows where the bottled water comes from?
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
I like the taste of bottled water better. I use paper bags at the supermarket and try to do other things to help the environment. Everything that was once good for us is now bad for us...I am sure in 5 years it will be good for us again. I cannot keep up with what I should and should not do. I know that I love my bottled water and Brita tastes funky to me. JMHO
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
I love tap water - people tell me I'm crazy but I think it is fine for you - I have never heard of any connection between drinking tap water and getting ill - unless, of course, it was contaminated. As far as I know - we have some of the best water in the country - it is supposed to be the cleanest/healthiest. I have drank water, when visiting other states, that had a DISTINCT taste and/or odor - I would not be able to, honestly, drink that if I lived there - but since I live here I have no prob drinking tap water.  Love it!
ETA - Just read over the whole thread - hmm, I do drink bottled water from time to time (as well as, at times, coke and snapple) - I never really thought about it before - I don't drink tons of it but at the same time I recycle as much as I can - I mean, I do what I can but it isn't always possible for me to drink ONLY tap water.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Hmm - as for the cancer - according to my Doctor, and he could be wrong but this is just what he said, he feels the high cancer rates are due to milk - the steroids, hormones and antibiotics they use in milk - I now drink organic b/c what he told me freaked me out a little. In any event, I think our air quality - or lack thereof, has a lot to do with the cancer rate too - there have been studies that suggest walking around outside in an area like Long Island - with the poor air (smog, etc.) from the City and congested areas - is like smoking 4-6 cigarettes a day - just by breathing normal.  I try not to think about that - b/c what can I do? Wear a gas mask? It just sux 
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by june262004
We have a brita. it's funny cause if you read bottled water most come from springs that aren't filtered.
I have to say - I do love our Brita. I love the water when it's ice cold out of the fridge. I have a friend that uses "Pur" - same idea - but I've always been a fan of the Brita - Bought it at Costco
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june262004
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
I grew up in Levittown and bought my house in Levittown. Lots of people have breast cancer some people have breast cancer in every house on one block. (Ramble lane) They think it's because of all the fertilizer that was used when Levittown was potato fields.
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