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Kierasmom
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by KellyFG
I've been at work all day & just trying to catch up on this thread now. My suggestion for those people that drink a lot of bottled water daily & are looking to reduce plastic waste without risking bacteria & other possible problems from reuse is to buy your bottled water in the largest container possible-ideally water cooler size & use empty glass snapple (or other brand)bottles. Glass manufacturing is much friendlier for the planet, glass bottles can be run in the dishwasher many, many times & recycling glass is easy & effective. My DH takes two glass bottles filled with drinks from home to work everyday. I pop them in the dishwasher after dinner & refill them & put them in the fridge before bed.
I also wanted to say that I think its terrific that these topics have inspired LIFers to change their thinking & take action
Not picking on you at all here and I do think your suggestions are good, but isn't running the dishwasher everyday not good for the environment?
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by charon54
There is a number on the bottom of the bottle, that's how many times you can refill it.
The one in the triangle is the recycle number...
I have never seen a number on the bottom of the bottle?
I agree. I have never heard of this, doesnt sound true to me.
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Posted 1/10/08 8:51 PM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by nov04libride
Wow, this is really helpful. It sounds like regular bottles aren't meant to be reused.
"Consumers should clean any drinking container with hot soapy water and dry thoroughly between uses. Bottles specifically designed for extended reuse are often made with wide openings that allow consumers to use cleaning instruments and easily dry them"
I agree, although I have seen wide mouth bottles that I used a bottle brush to clean inside.
I don't think Poland Spring or those type of manufacturers are going to make it easier for people to reuse their bottles. Probably because they have more to gain from you going back to the store to buy another one.
Now Terracycle is a really smart company - Look what they do with your recycled milk containers and soda bottles!!!!!
They even found a way to transform a 2 liter Pepsi bottle into a bird feeder!
LOVE these guys. I'm totally buying their worm poop come spring.
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Posted 1/10/08 9:33 PM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Oh geez, they've really updated their site a lot since I last visited.
Check out their yogurt container, juice pouch, and soda bottle brigades. A teacher could do SO MUCH with this type of program!
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Posted 1/10/08 9:37 PM |
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Kierasmom
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
Posted by Kierasmom
Posted by KellyFG
I've been at work all day & just trying to catch up on this thread now. My suggestion for those people that drink a lot of bottled water daily & are looking to reduce plastic waste without risking bacteria & other possible problems from reuse is to buy your bottled water in the largest container possible-ideally water cooler size & use empty glass snapple (or other brand)bottles. Glass manufacturing is much friendlier for the planet, glass bottles can be run in the dishwasher many, many times & recycling glass is easy & effective. My DH takes two glass bottles filled with drinks from home to work everyday. I pop them in the dishwasher after dinner & refill them & put them in the fridge before bed.
I also wanted to say that I think its terrific that these topics have inspired LIFers to change their thinking & take action
Not picking on you at all here and I do think your suggestions are good, but isn't running the dishwasher everyday not good for the environment?
It's better and more efficiant than washing by hand. Uses less water etc.
Link
Yeah but that article says it's better because you would only run your dishwasher once or twice a week which would use less water than washing by hand. But this sounds like the dishwasher is being run everyday which I can't imagine is better than washing by hand. Nor can I imagine how a dishwasher can be filled to capacity everyday.
Again I am not all criticizing, I'm asking because I don't know for myself.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Kierasmom
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
Posted by Kierasmom
Posted by KellyFG
I've been at work all day & just trying to catch up on this thread now. My suggestion for those people that drink a lot of bottled water daily & are looking to reduce plastic waste without risking bacteria & other possible problems from reuse is to buy your bottled water in the largest container possible-ideally water cooler size & use empty glass snapple (or other brand)bottles. Glass manufacturing is much friendlier for the planet, glass bottles can be run in the dishwasher many, many times & recycling glass is easy & effective. My DH takes two glass bottles filled with drinks from home to work everyday. I pop them in the dishwasher after dinner & refill them & put them in the fridge before bed.
I also wanted to say that I think its terrific that these topics have inspired LIFers to change their thinking & take action
Not picking on you at all here and I do think your suggestions are good, but isn't running the dishwasher everyday not good for the environment?
It's better and more efficiant than washing by hand. Uses less water etc.
Link
Yeah but that article says it's better because you would only run your dishwasher once or twice a week which would use less water than washing by hand. But this sounds like the dishwasher is being run everyday which I can't imagine is better than washing by hand. Nor can I imagine how a dishwasher can be filled to capacity everyday.
Again I am not all criticizing, I'm asking because I don't know for myself.
My DH, myself & our children if they are home all take breakfast that I cook in the am & lunch in reusable containers in our lunchboxes each day, including beverages. my DH cooks dinner & we eat & drink with real plates & glasses not disposables. so I think its easy to see everything needed to cook & serve & carry for 3 meals for 2-4 people equals a load in the dishwasher. I handwash a lot of stuff on the weekends, but during the week my energy star dishwasher serves us well.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by greenfreak
Posted by nov04libride
Wow, this is really helpful. It sounds like regular bottles aren't meant to be reused.
"Consumers should clean any drinking container with hot soapy water and dry thoroughly between uses. Bottles specifically designed for extended reuse are often made with wide openings that allow consumers to use cleaning instruments and easily dry them"
I agree, although I have seen wide mouth bottles that I used a bottle brush to clean inside.
I don't think Poland Spring or those type of manufacturers are going to make it easier for people to reuse their bottles. Probably because they have more to gain from you going back to the store to buy another one.
Now Terracycle is a really smart company - Look what they do with your recycled milk containers and soda bottles!!!!!
They even found a way to transform a 2 liter Pepsi bottle into a bird feeder!
LOVE these guys. I'm totally buying their worm poop come spring.
I LOVE terracycle-I mentioned them in gardening101!
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by KellyFG
My DH, myself & our children if they are home all take breakfast that I cook in the am & lunch in reusable containers in our lunchboxes each day, including beverages. my DH cooks dinner & we eat & drink with real plates & glasses not disposables. so I think its easy to see everything needed to cook & serve & carry for 3 meals for 2-4 people equals a load in the dishwasher. I handwash a lot of stuff on the weekends, but during the week my energy star dishwasher serves us well.
I agree. With 4 of us at home, DW and DC eat 3 meals a day at home, plus snacks, and I have dinner at home, plus pots and pans, we run the dishwasher almost every day. Our only other option is to hand-wash, which uses more water, or eat out, which isn't good either, for numerous reasons. We are picking the lesser of 3 evils, IMO.
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Posted 1/11/08 1:56 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Kierasmom
I don't drink this brand of bottled water so I'm really not too concerned. When Poland Spring or one of the other major brands of bottled water comes out with a report that says their water is harmful then I will rethink it. At this point I am more comfortable drinking bottled water than tap water so I will continue to do so. I may change my mind in the future but as of today I am staying with my bottled water.
http://www.worldwaterwars.com/UnitedStates/Maine/index.htm
Poland Spring makes deal on lawsuit Poland Spring Water Co. has negotiated a proposed settlement for a class-action lawsuit alleging that the company's bottled water does not come from a spring and is not completely safe.
I'm definitely not saying to stop drinking bottled water. I drink Fruit2o a lot, and that's essentially bottled water with artificial sweetener and flavoring, so I live in a glass house, myself. I just want to point out that nothing is 100% safe. We all have to make calculated risks, and do what we think is best. I agree that the vast majority of bottled water is safe, but it's not 100% guaranteed, just like LI tap water is safe, but people have first-hand experience of problems.
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by racheeeee
My local organic, vegan supermarket sells pears from Peru. Why bother to eat organic if the pears are coming all the way from Peru... I don't get that!!! I agree...who is to say they are REALLY ORGANIC.
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Kara
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Diane
Posted by racheeeee
My local organic, vegan supermarket sells pears from Peru. Why bother to eat organic if the pears are coming all the way from Peru... I don't get that!!! I agree...who is to say they are REALLY ORGANIC.
Not all people buy organic food just b/c it is good for the environment. Many buy it b/c it is better for their body. So, they would probably buy organic whether it came from another country or next door, depending on what was available.
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Posted 1/11/08 8:43 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Kara
Not all people buy organic food just b/c it is good for the environment. Many buy it b/c it is better for their body. So, they would probably buy organic whether it came from another country or next door, depending on what was available.
I'll never forget how upset I was when I bought fresh burritos from Fairway and within 2-3 days in the fridge, they were moldy.
I was all ****** off, having wasted the money, assuming they were going to last.
But when I realized that this is the way food is SUPPOSED to be and we're so used to all these preservatives that we just don't realize, I was floored.
To think of all the preservatives that enter our bodies every day...
I can't wait till the farm stand near me opens. I love that we chose a neighborhood that is surrounded by farms.
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Posted 1/11/08 8:54 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Kristin, in life and as parents, especially as a step-parent we have to choose our battles.
I have to admit I'm guilty of using water bottles, but I'm in the car all day practically and have access to no water otherwise, and I'm always thirsty...
i just added this quote because as soon as I read "difficult teenager" I vibed with you! Yes, you DO have to choose your battles sometimes!
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Posted 1/11/08 8:55 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
well, on my list of serious issues, the environment falls behind other things, such as War, economy, etc. But thats just me.
I just want to add that I personally wish people WOULD focus on the environment more - these things are major distractors for problems that are really our own....
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Posted 1/11/08 8:58 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by DaniRella
Hmm - as for the cancer - according to my Doctor, and he could be wrong but this is just what he said, he feels the high cancer rates are due to milk - the steroids, hormones and antibiotics they use in milk - I now drink organic b/c what he told me freaked me out a little. In any event, I think our air quality - or lack thereof, has a lot to do with the cancer rate too - there have been studies that suggest walking around outside in an area like Long Island - with the poor air (smog, etc.) from the City and congested areas - is like smoking 4-6 cigarettes a day - just by breathing normal. I try not to think about that - b/c what can I do? Wear a gas mask? It just sux
Yes - milk, meat, and genetically modified soy I believe are major culprits - thats why as a vegan I feel I'm not in the clear - always buy organic soy products!!!
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Posted 1/11/08 9:03 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Diane
Posted by racheeeee
My local organic, vegan supermarket sells pears from Peru. Why bother to eat organic if the pears are coming all the way from Peru... I don't get that!!! I agree...who is to say they are REALLY ORGANIC. A company can't just say they're organic. There are guidlines and certifications that must be met.
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Posted 1/11/08 9:32 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Goobster
Posted by leighdvm
I just wanted to add my 2 cents.....
I've been ignorant, oblivious and selfish when it comes to "going green" up until a few months ago, thanks to some of the posts here at LIF. I have now bought those reusable shopping bags from Trader Joes and love them (that was a great post). I buy mostly (not all, I have to have my rice a roni) organic food.
As for the plastic bottles, I am glad this thread was posted because to be honest, I just never thought about it (like I said above, oblivious and ignorant). When I went food shopping last night, bottled water was on sale, 2 cases for $7 and I just kept walking. I'll drink my tap water.
I wish posts like these will keep coming, they really do open my eyes to things I never cared to think about before.
I think you brought up some great points about how sometimes it just doesn't occur to people. But threads like this do open eyes.
I consider myself pretty Earth conscious but i never really thought about the gas used to transport items. And now due to this I will, and I will try to cut back even more on certain items.
I think threads like this really do help to open the eyes of some people, and that is one more step in helping our Earth. Every single person's actions DO make a difference.
Great post LeighDVM.
Yes, gas and fuel are things people have to keep in mind when trying to make changes - thats why there is a push for buying local. Local means less fuel and gas and energy to get it to where we buy it!
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Posted 1/11/08 9:38 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Whamtastic
Posted by shiv
even organic veggies- they need transport to the stores also.
Buy local
Great minds, my love!
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by greenfreak
Posted by Kara
Not all people buy organic food just b/c it is good for the environment. Many buy it b/c it is better for their body. So, they would probably buy organic whether it came from another country or next door, depending on what was available.
I'll never forget how upset I was when I bought fresh burritos from Fairway and within 2-3 days in the fridge, they were moldy.
I was all ****** off, having wasted the money, assuming they were going to last.
But when I realized that this is the way food is SUPPOSED to be and we're so used to all these preservatives that we just don't realize, I was floored.
To think of all the preservatives that enter our bodies every day...
I can't wait till the farm stand near me opens. I love that we chose a neighborhood that is surrounded by farms.
I have to say, almost everything I eat would go moldy ia day or 2 - I eat very little with preservatives... but mostly because of my IBS, I have to eat as fresh as possible, which says a lot about what this food does to our systems!!!!
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Posted 1/11/08 9:45 AM |
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dm24angel
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by ~Colleen~
Posted by Diane
Posted by racheeeee
My local organic, vegan supermarket sells pears from Peru. Why bother to eat organic if the pears are coming all the way from Peru... I don't get that!!! I agree...who is to say they are REALLY ORGANIC. A company can't just say they're organic. There are guidlines and certifications that must be met.
and are strict at that.
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Posted 1/11/08 10:54 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by JenniferEver
I was equally taken aback by the amount of people who drive SUVs.
yeah, I wonder if the people driving SUVs are drinking tap or bottled water..
now, I'm getting just silly...
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Posted 1/11/08 11:00 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to two topics: Going green and bottled water
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by charon54
There is a number on the bottom of the bottle, that's how many times you can refill it.
The one in the triangle is the recycle number...
I have never seen a number on the bottom of the bottle?
I agree. I have never heard of this, doesnt sound true to me.
That number, to my understanding is the grade of plastic used.
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