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MarisaK
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
absolutely not -
and I don't care if I get flamed for this, but anyone who DOES do that is a completely irresponsible parent!
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by InfinitiGal
Posted by DRMom
I keep seeing people say-not only in this post but others-give the dog to a rescue, shelter etc. If a dog is vicious, how could you do that to another family? I don't get it...
ETA: I AM a dog lover and have two large dogs 8 and 5. They are both from the pound and are "mutts." I do not EVER leave them unattended with my children
I'm not sure I understand this. How is surrendering an aggresive dog to a shelter/rescue putting another family in danger? It's up to the person who gives the dog away to let the shelter know why, and I don't think a shelter is going to give the dog to another family.
Who would purposely adopt a dog with a history of agressive behavior if they have a family?
I agree with this.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
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Posted by InfinitiGal
Posted by DRMom
I keep seeing people say-not only in this post but others-give the dog to a rescue, shelter etc. If a dog is vicious, how could you do that to another family? I don't get it...
ETA: I AM a dog lover and have two large dogs 8 and 5. They are both from the pound and are "mutts." I do not EVER leave them unattended with my children
I'm not sure I understand this. How is surrendering an aggresive dog to a shelter/rescue putting another family in danger? It's up to the person who gives the dog away to let the shelter know why, and I don't think a shelter is going to give the dog to another family.
Who would purposely adopt a dog with a history of agressive behavior if they have a family?
I agree with this.
People don't always disclose the true reason for giving up the dog. Some shelters will NOT take agressive dogs. So some people will hide it to give the dog away.
To answer OP: no I would not. I purposely only take puppies. I would not adopt an adult dog. Regardless of me having children or not. You never know their true history.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
No way. But I have seen people adopt dogs that have aggressive behavior with hopes of rehabilitation. I have seen it work and I have seen it NOT work.
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| Posted 2/24/10 10:55 AM |
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by smdl
People don't always disclose the true reason for giving up the dog. Some shelters will NOT take agressive dogs. So some people will hide it to give the dog away.
To answer OP: no I would not. I purposely only take puppies. I would not adopt an adult dog. Regardless of me having children or not. You never know their true history.
That doesn't apply in this situation. Mel asked would you adopt a dog whose owners DID NOT LIE and that you KNOW was aggressive, not about anyone lying. We are referring to knowing the dog is aggressive, as obviously the previous owners disclosed that.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Would any parent really say yes, they would knowingly bring danger into their home?
It's one thing to honor the commitment to a dog you already had prior to having kids... or even a dog you got after having kids but without knowledge of its aggression. That's different... I guess you could say it's trying to do the right thing in a bad situation. But would anyone really choose to invite danger into their house for no real reason?
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JennZ
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by smdl
People don't always disclose the true reason for giving up the dog. Some shelters will NOT take agressive dogs. So some people will hide it to give the dog away.
To answer OP: no I would not. I purposely only take puppies. I would not adopt an adult dog. Regardless of me having children or not. You never know their true history.
That doesn't apply in this situation. Mel asked would you adopt a dog whose owners DID NOT LIE and that you KNOW was aggressive, not about anyone lying. We are referring to knowing the dog is aggressive, as obviously the previous owners disclosed that.
Goobster, would YOU take the dog in question? Lindis dog, would you bring him into your home with your DD?
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by JennZ
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Posted by smdl
People don't always disclose the true reason for giving up the dog. Some shelters will NOT take agressive dogs. So some people will hide it to give the dog away.
To answer OP: no I would not. I purposely only take puppies. I would not adopt an adult dog. Regardless of me having children or not. You never know their true history.
That doesn't apply in this situation. Mel asked would you adopt a dog whose owners DID NOT LIE and that you KNOW was aggressive, not about anyone lying. We are referring to knowing the dog is aggressive, as obviously the previous owners disclosed that.
Goobster, would YOU take the dog in question? Lindis dog, would you bring him into your home with your DD?
Why are you asking me? BTW, I already answered Mel's thread many posts ago.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
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No I would not ever adopt a dog that has shown agression around children.. Honestly I would not adopt it whether I had children or not.. And I love dogs !!! But if I already had this dog then decided to have children and all the sudden the dog showed aggression then I would hire a trainer and work with the dog. I also feel that those dogs are left to die in shelters becasue no one adopts aggressive dogs? Why would I if there are others that are not? its a terrible cycle.
ITA with this
I dont think anyone here will answer yes Mel.
Bumping my answer for JennZ.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
i have to chime in on this: there is differences in aggression. It can be that the dog doesn't like children tugging on their tails/feet - poking them etc. Babies & toddlers don't get that a doggie is not a play thing for them so sometimes the dog get's annoyed and "fights back" to me that dog can be fostered to a family that doesn't have young children or no children and be a happy and healthy animal.
The dog that can't stand to be touched by anyone, fights you if you touch the food bowl, attacks people randomly (can not be trusted) those are animals that need training and if training doesn't work then I do have to agree the dog needs to be "put down."
As far as cats i have to start training our cat on interaction with people and children. She is friendly but there are cues she gives when she doesn't want to be touched. She used to scratch us and bite us (stray taken in) and with a spray bottle slowly we are conditioning her to know she doesn't do that type of thing and needs to walk away. There are no cat trainers out there - there are plenty of dog trainers. So before you put a dog asleep or label it a threat to humans try to have some training done.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by InfinitiGal
Posted by DRMom
I keep seeing people say-not only in this post but others-give the dog to a rescue, shelter etc. If a dog is vicious, how could you do that to another family? I don't get it...
ETA: I AM a dog lover and have two large dogs 8 and 5. They are both from the pound and are "mutts." I do not EVER leave them unattended with my children
I'm not sure I understand this. How is surrendering an aggresive dog to a shelter/rescue putting another family in danger? It's up to the person who gives the dog away to let the shelter know why, and I don't think a shelter is going to give the dog to another family.
Who would purposely adopt a dog with a history of agressive behavior if they have a family?
Couples without kids are families too. The dog in question has been known to be aggressive towards adults and chidlren alike, which is why I think the OP made this post (I could be wrong though).
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Goobster
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by JennZ
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Posted by smdl
People don't always disclose the true reason for giving up the dog. Some shelters will NOT take agressive dogs. So some people will hide it to give the dog away.
To answer OP: no I would not. I purposely only take puppies. I would not adopt an adult dog. Regardless of me having children or not. You never know their true history.
That doesn't apply in this situation. Mel asked would you adopt a dog whose owners DID NOT LIE and that you KNOW was aggressive, not about anyone lying. We are referring to knowing the dog is aggressive, as obviously the previous owners disclosed that.
Goobster, would YOU take the dog in question? Lindis dog, would you bring him into your home with your DD?
BTW, Jenn, why are you bringing Lindi's dog into it first of all,when this thread isn't about people taking Lindi's dog specifically? Even still, why are you asking ME if *I* would adopt her dog, when the only comment I made on Lindi's thread was replying to someone that suggested that labs aren't usually like this? To which I replied by asking if the dog was checked medically., Go take a look back and see, don't know why you are singling ME out. I barely said a word either which way on that thread b/c I am keeping my opinion to myself. So I don't appreciate being singled out.
However, to answer your question even though Mel did not ask about Lindi's dog...NO, I would not adopt Lindi's dog or ANY other dog with a history of aggression, esp now that I have a child. I never stated I would in any of my posts, EVER. I am not a large OR strong person, I could never control a large aggressive dog. I know what I am capable of. What I have repeatedly stated I would personally work with my own dog, who is small (and I chose for THAT reason), if he/she showed signs of aggression. Taking care of my own dog that I committed to is quite different than taking on someone else's aggressive dog. But there ARE people who WILL take aggressive dogs, who are able to control LARGE dogs and that's why people always suggest trying different options before putting down. Obviously if someone gets a large dog from the start they must consider if they are physically able to control a large dog, I would expect...
But Mel was just asking in general who here might actually do that. but then again, we are ALL parents here (as my original reply stated) and I don't think ANY parent would do that.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
No, especially not a dog that large. I had a 25lbs Cocker Spaniel who was crazy aggressive and dealing with him was beyond difficult and painful. I was afraid to deal with him at times, I would never again subject my children to that.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
I would not adopt a dog who has a history of aggression now that I have a child; however, if we did not have a child then I would consider it.
We adopted a pitbull and were told that he had a history of aggression. We have had him for almost 5 years now and have not had one single issue with him. We had him neutered and have spent a lot of time working on his behavior and "listening skills". He gets tons of exercise and freedom in our large fenced-in yard. Would I leave him in a room alone with my infant? No. Would I leave either of my two little 8lb bichons alone in a room with my infant? No.
Obviously each case of aggression is different and FWIW, in regards to the case posted this morning I would probably put the dog down even though I am a self-proclaimed Dr. Doolittle.
Hugs for anyone faced with this very tough situation. Please know that you need to do what is right for your child and your family. 
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
No. I truly believe training begins when they are puppies. Unfortunately for many dogs trying to stop aggressive behavior as an adult is almost impossible because it's been allowed for years.
We trained our dog from a baby to allow hands on her when she's eating, poking, ear pulling, tackling. She's 75lbs of pure muscle and I trust her 100% with my children.
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Goobster
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
i think at that point, (after the dog is given up) it is the responsibility of the rescue to place the dog in the right home. When I was looking to adopt I would always see "this dog is not good with children, cats, other dogs, etc)
Most of the time, I dont think the dog is a lost cause. I think there are people out there that would be a good fit. But I guess there are also situations where the dog is just too dangerous to be adopted out.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by DeniseMarie
i think at that point, (after the dog is given up) it is the responsibility of the rescue to place the dog in the right home. When I was looking to adopt I would always see "this dog is not good with children, cats, other dogs, etc)
Most of the time, I dont think the dog is a lost cause. I think there are people out there that would be a good fit. But I guess there are also situations where the dog is just too dangerous to be adopted out.
I always love the way you think. ITA with this, entirely.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by Goobster
Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
take it to FM please, let's not hijack the thread
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Goobster
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by pinkandblue
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Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
take it to FM please, let's not hijack the thread
Well I do not appreciate being called out for no reason (re this situation) and if it is done publicly, then the rest of it can be public too. I am not going to sit back and be publicly pointed a finger at for no reason then not reply in public to the post.
While I agree about hijacking a thread but there was no reason for me to be pointed a finger at in THIS thread esp, or any thread in discussion today esp. I am simply replying to a post to me on this thread about this subject.
JMO
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
No I would not ever adopt a dog that has shown agression around children.. Honestly I would not adopt it whether I had children or not.. And I love dogs !!! But if I already had this dog then decided to have children and all the sudden the dog showed aggression then I would hire a trainer and work with the dog. I also feel that those dogs are left to die in shelters becasue no one adopts aggressive dogs? Why would I if there are others that are not? its a terrible cycle.
ITA with this
I dont think anyone here will answer yes Mel.
I'm curious about the people who put a guilt trip on the OP....I mean yeah its nice to be a champion for dogs(and again, I am one) but at times realism dictates there are no alternatives.
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Goobster
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by DRMom
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
No I would not ever adopt a dog that has shown agression around children.. Honestly I would not adopt it whether I had children or not.. And I love dogs !!! But if I already had this dog then decided to have children and all the sudden the dog showed aggression then I would hire a trainer and work with the dog. I also feel that those dogs are left to die in shelters becasue no one adopts aggressive dogs? Why would I if there are others that are not? its a terrible cycle.
ITA with this
I dont think anyone here will answer yes Mel.
I'm curious about the people who put a guilt trip on the OP....I mean yeah its nice to be a champion for dogs(and again, I am one) but at times realism dictates there are no alternatives.
I agree. That's why I didn't comment either way. In my heart, I can't say do it and I can't say don't do it. So in that situation, I don't say anything re the act.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by pinkandblue
Posted by Goobster
Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
take it to FM please, let's not hijack the thread
Well I do not appreciate being called out for no reason (re this situation) and if it is done publicly, then the rest of it can be public too. I am not going to sit back and be publicly pointed a finger at for no reason then not reply in public to the post.
While I agree about hijacking a thread but there was no reason for me to be pointed a finger at in THIS thread esp, or any thread in discussion today esp. I am simply replying to a post to me on this thread about this subject.
JMO
that is why I recommended that you take it to fm you don't have to, it was just a suggestion
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JennZ
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by pinkandblue
Posted by Goobster
Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
take it to FM please, let's not hijack the thread
Well I do not appreciate being called out for no reason (re this situation) and if it is done publicly, then the rest of it can be public too. I agree about hijacking a thread but there was no reason for me to be pointed a finger at in THIS thread esp, or any thread in discussion today esp. I am simply replying to a post to me on this thread about this subject.
JMO
sorry, my motherly duties called! And, I missed your original post that is why I "pointed a finger at you" No need to get all huffy. I was just wondering. You seem to always defend the animal so I just assumed (my bad) that you did on this thread too.
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