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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
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Posted by pinkandblue
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Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
take it to FM please, let's not hijack the thread 
Well I do not appreciate being called out for no reason (re this situation) and if it is done publicly, then the rest of it can be public too. I agree about hijacking a thread but there was no reason for me to be pointed a finger at in THIS thread esp, or any thread in discussion today esp. I am simply replying to a post to me on this thread about this subject.
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sorry, my motherly duties called! And, I missed your original post that is why I "pointed a finger at you" No need to get all huffy. I was just wondering. You seem to always defend the animal so I just assumed (my bad) that you did on this thread too.
Aha. I figured as much. I didn't say what you thought I might. I surprised you, didn't I?
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| Posted 2/24/10 11:47 AM |
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dpli
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
I wouldn't adopt a rescue dog at all, and possibly not even an adult dog. I agree with Sophie - I don't think you will ever know the whole history of an adult dog.
My 5 year old nephew was bitten in the face by a rescue dog at the home of the person who was trying to re-home it. I don't think the original owner was honest about the dog's history and it was a breed that was supposed to be very good with children (which was why they were seeking out that breed in the first place).
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DeniseMarie
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by dpli
I wouldn't adopt a rescue dog at all, and possibly not even an adult dog. I agree with Sophie - I don't think you will ever know the whole history of an adult dog.
My 5 year old nephew was bitten in the face by a rescue dog at the home of the person who was trying to re-home it. I don't think the original owner was honest about the dog's history and it was a breed that was supposed to be very good with children (which was why they were seeking out that breed in the first place).
i would hope the dogs are temperment tested before being adopted out. And sure, things could change once they are settled in a home and have gotten used to it.
I adopted my dog through Golden Retriever Rescue. They were/are excellent are placing the right dog with the right family. They wouldnt even consider giving me a dog unless it came from a family with kids.
Just because a dog is a rescue doesnt mean it has a bad side. It could have been given up for financial reasons or the owner died or something like that. I have to put my trust in the rescue. Which, in your nephews case, didnt do their job. That is just awful what happened to him  Was he seriously hurt?
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by JennZ
Posted by Goobster
Posted by pinkandblue
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Still waiting for a reply Jenn.
take it to FM please, let's not hijack the thread
Well I do not appreciate being called out for no reason (re this situation) and if it is done publicly, then the rest of it can be public too. I agree about hijacking a thread but there was no reason for me to be pointed a finger at in THIS thread esp, or any thread in discussion today esp. I am simply replying to a post to me on this thread about this subject.
JMO
sorry, my motherly duties called! And, I missed your original post that is why I "pointed a finger at you" No need to get all huffy. I was just wondering. You seem to always defend the animal so I just assumed (my bad) that you did on this thread too.
Aha. I figured as much. I didn't say what you thought I might. I surprised you, didn't I?
This time, YES!
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| Posted 2/24/10 12:12 PM |
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Diana712
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by DeniseMarie
Posted by dpli
I wouldn't adopt a rescue dog at all, and possibly not even an adult dog. I agree with Sophie - I don't think you will ever know the whole history of an adult dog.
My 5 year old nephew was bitten in the face by a rescue dog at the home of the person who was trying to re-home it. I don't think the original owner was honest about the dog's history and it was a breed that was supposed to be very good with children (which was why they were seeking out that breed in the first place).
i would hope the dogs are temperment tested before being adopted out. And sure, things could change once they are settled in a home and have gotten used to it.
I adopted my dog through Golden Retriever Rescue. They were/are excellent are placing the right dog with the right family. They wouldnt even consider giving me a dog unless it came from a family with kids.
Just because a dog is a rescue doesnt mean it has a bad side. It could have been given up for financial reasons or the owner died or something like that. I have to put my trust in the rescue. Which, in your nephews case, didnt do their job. That is just awful what happened to him Was he seriously hurt?
I agree lets not give rescue dogs a bad rap.. Any dog could bite from anywhere you get it.. I would say you have to make sure the rescue group is on the money.. Thats a terrible thing that happened to your nephew..I am so sorry.. And I will admit I totally understand why you would feel this way about a rescue dog.. That wa very close to home for you.. But there are such wonderful pets that come from rescues.. Please believe me.. 
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| Posted 2/24/10 12:15 PM |
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DRMom
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by InfinitiGal
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I keep seeing people say-not only in this post but others-give the dog to a rescue, shelter etc. If a dog is vicious, how could you do that to another family? I don't get it...
ETA: I AM a dog lover and have two large dogs 8 and 5. They are both from the pound and are "mutts." I do not EVER leave them unattended with my children
I'm not sure I understand this. How is surrendering an aggresive dog to a shelter/rescue putting another family in danger? It's up to the person who gives the dog away to let the shelter know why, and I don't think a shelter is going to give the dog to another family.
Who would purposely adopt a dog with a history of agressive behavior if they have a family?
People asking the OP - "Did the dog break skin?" Maybe he can be re-homed. etc
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beachgirl
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
No way but there are people out there who DONT have kids who are willing to adopt dogs who are otherwise not going to get adopted.
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CookiePuss
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by dpli
I wouldn't adopt a rescue dog at all, and possibly not even an adult dog. I agree with Sophie - I don't think you will ever know the whole history of an adult dog.
My 5 year old nephew was bitten in the face by a rescue dog at the home of the person who was trying to re-home it. I don't think the original owner was honest about the dog's history and it was a breed that was supposed to be very good with children (which was why they were seeking out that breed in the first place).
Adopting a puppy doesn't guarantee a good temperament either; some of it's nature and some of it is nurture.
For every story like your nephew, there are stories like mine who have had more then one rescue dog and all have been good with children. The one dog that wasn't, was a papered pedigree. I have also volunteered at the pound and worked with lots of dogs that had the makings to be a great family dog.
These are animals and they will act like animals in good and bad ways. It's up to the owners to be responsible. That dog your nephew was bitten by should have never been in that dog's vicinity.
I'm not pointing a finger at you but that kind of sentiment leaves great dogs in shelters.
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dpli
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by DeniseMarie
Posted by dpli
I wouldn't adopt a rescue dog at all, and possibly not even an adult dog. I agree with Sophie - I don't think you will ever know the whole history of an adult dog.
My 5 year old nephew was bitten in the face by a rescue dog at the home of the person who was trying to re-home it. I don't think the original owner was honest about the dog's history and it was a breed that was supposed to be very good with children (which was why they were seeking out that breed in the first place).
i would hope the dogs are temperment tested before being adopted out. And sure, things could change once they are settled in a home and have gotten used to it.
I adopted my dog through Golden Retriever Rescue. They were/are excellent are placing the right dog with the right family. They wouldnt even consider giving me a dog unless it came from a family with kids.
Just because a dog is a rescue doesnt mean it has a bad side. It could have been given up for financial reasons or the owner died or something like that. I have to put my trust in the rescue. Which, in your nephews case, didnt do their job. That is just awful what happened to him Was he seriously hurt?
He was lucky - he was bitten very close to his eye. A half inch in another direction could have had a very different result. Luckily, he was not too emotionally scarred by it and they did end up getting a puppy later on.
Just to clarify, though, this was a dog they were going to see with the intention of possibly adopting it, so as you say, in this case, the rescue organization/rep/ whoever may not have done her job.
I do think rescue groups do great work and I am not trying to minimize that. With my own personal experience with this, I stick by my original opinion.
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Goobster
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by dpli
I wouldn't adopt a rescue dog at all, and possibly not even an adult dog. I agree with Sophie - I don't think you will ever know the whole history of an adult dog.
My 5 year old nephew was bitten in the face by a rescue dog at the home of the person who was trying to re-home it. I don't think the original owner was honest about the dog's history and it was a breed that was supposed to be very good with children (which was why they were seeking out that breed in the first place).
Adopting a puppy doesn't guarantee a good temperament either; some of it's nature and some of it is nurture.
For every story like your nephew, there are stories like mine who have had more then one rescue dog and all have been good with children. The one dog that wasn't, was a papered pedigree. I have also volunteered at the pound and worked with lots of dogs that had the makings to be a great family dog.
These are animals and they will act like animals in good and bad ways. It's up to the owners to be responsible. That dog your nephew was bitten by should have never been in that dog's vicinity.
I'm not pointing a finger at you but that kind of sentiment leaves great dogs in shelters.
So true. My male dog is directly from a local breeder. We met her, his mom, his siblings, etc and had him since 10 weeks old. He is awful with kids, whereas my girl dog, same exact background, is much better. Sometimes it is just their nature, not so much upbringing.
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dawnygirl25
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
no way
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Heck no
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
No.
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babyonthebrain
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
I would not....
Here's one for you (the collective you)- in a strange similar yet not, kind of way
Would you date someone ( provided you are un-married ofcourse ) , who has a history of being physically abusive and bring them around your children ?
I would not ...
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MommaTo3Dogs1Boy
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Not for nothing, it all depends on who you ask when it comes to aggression. Some people are more sensitive and don't know the difference between playing and fighting. You see it every day at dog parks. Food aggression is a form of aggression (duh) yet plenty of families adopt dogs that have that.
I also didn't see anyone attacking lindi on her post or making her feel bad. We were trying to give her other options since it pains her to do this. We also weren't there to ser what happened. Attack is a pretty harsh word to me. When I think of attacking, i think of biting people, breaking skin, hurting people, the dog being uncontrollable.
Would i personally adopt an aggressive dog? It depends on what is wrong with the dog. I wouldn't now having a baby but most people probably would. Dogs can be trained. If they bit once, doesn't mean they'll do it again after training. And no, training doesnt just start as puppies. Look at thw michael vick dogs, almost all were rehabilitated and are now put in homes with families even with kids. and they were trained to kill other dogs and small animals.
Shelters also spend a period of time with the dogs that come in, evaluate their behavior, etc. If they felt the dog was really unadoptable, they wouldn't put the dog up for adoption. No one wants to see someone get hurt. And if a dog wasn't fit for a family with kids, they wouldn't put the adoption through.
Both of my rescues told me, no kids under 6. It was just me and my husband so we still adopted them. They're amazing with declan so it all depends. My one dog isnt good with kids other than declan but shes getting so much better since she started training.
Sorry now I'm rambling. My point was different people have different ideas of aggression and people have different lifestyles.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by MommaTo3Dogs1Boy
Attack is a pretty harsh word to me. When I think of attacking, i think of biting people, breaking skin, hurting people, the dog being uncontrollable.
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to me, a dog trying to break through and then jump into my infants crib is pretty aggressive
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
Posted by MommaTo3Dogs1Boy
Not for nothing, it all depends on who you ask when it comes to aggression. Some people are more sensitive and don't know the difference between playing and fighting. You see it every day at dog parks. Food aggression is a form of aggression (duh) yet plenty of families adopt dogs that have that.
I also didn't see anyone attacking lindi on her post or making her feel bad. We were trying to give her other options since it pains her to do this. We also weren't there to ser what happened. Attack is a pretty harsh word to me. When I think of attacking, i think of biting people, breaking skin, hurting people, the dog being uncontrollable.
Would i personally adopt an aggressive dog? It depends on what is wrong with the dog. I wouldn't now having a baby but most people probably would. Dogs can be trained. If they bit once, doesn't mean they'll do it again after training. And no, training doesnt just start as puppies. Look at thw michael vick dogs, almost all were rehabilitated and are now put in homes with families even with kids. and they were trained to kill other dogs and small animals.
Shelters also spend a period of time with the dogs that come in, evaluate their behavior, etc. If they felt the dog was really unadoptable, they wouldn't put the dog up for adoption. No one wants to see someone get hurt. And if a dog wasn't fit for a family with kids, they wouldn't put the adoption through.
Both of my rescues told me, no kids under 6. It was just me and my husband so we still adopted them. They're amazing with declan so it all depends. My one dog isnt good with kids other than declan but shes getting so much better since she started training.
Sorry now I'm rambling. My point was different people have different ideas of aggression and people have different lifestyles.
I agree with alot of this. You brought up a good point about the Michael Vick dogs.
And I do think we all have differnent ideas of aggression. I was attacked by my cat once growing up for hurting her kitten (it was in my hands and she knew I hurt it) and she LITERALLY crawled up me from my feet up to my hands, nails dug in me and my clothing as she crawled UP ME while screaming at me, scratching at me and hissing, etc at me, so I would put her baby down. I screamed for my brother to get my mother....it was bad. But....it was for good reason. I was hurting her baby. She only jumped off me when I tossed the kitten onto the couch and she ran to it. She was a nippy cat, she would go after people who walked by for no reason, she was a tough cat who was on the street before we took her in. She would fight with DOGS, children would toss her around...that's why we rescued her. Yet even as a child, I was not afraid of her after that b/c she had a good reason to do what she did. I loved that cat more than anything (and I was her only favorite out of the whole family, etc) no matter how many scratches I got (as a child again). So I guess we all have different tolerances for how an animal acts and different definitions of what is aggressive or what we will tolerate/can accept/deal with.
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Re: Spinoff-Would you adopt a dog who has a history of aggression and have him around your kids?
If I didn't have kids I might take them. On petfinder there are a lot of dogs that say not for families with small children, or small dogs or cats.
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