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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Posted by MandJZ
Here's the thing. It doesn't matter WHO she is, if she is crazy or whatever. If she was asked to cover up in relation to breastfeeding - that means as she is preparing to, during, or as she finishes nursing - than her rights were violated. Women have the right to breastfeed anywhere they are allowed to be, and this includes exposure of the nipple that is, as the wording goes, 'incidental' to the nursing. Period. Being asked, even politely, to cover up is a violation of that woman's right. It can and often does make the mother feel uncomfortable. And why is the comfort of the person asking her to cover up more important than her comfort as a nursing mother, and the comfort of her baby? And again, it doesn't matter who this woman is. Crazy people have rights, too.
Yes, it actually DOES matter if she is crazy. B/c crazy people say and do things that aren't always the TRUTH, especially when a lawsuit is involved. A police office is being sued. Last I checked the police officer also has rights, rights to not be accused of something he may not have done, or something that may have been reported out of context.
She could be telling the truth, but she could also NOT be telling the truth or may have a different version of what really happened. That's all I am saying.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Posted by HoneyBadger
What an asinine case. The cop is wrong, period, end if story. Women are allowed to be topless in public, regardless of whether they're bf'ing or not. This law was passed years ago. The guy needs to get a grip. Good lord.
It's funny how people with illegal apartments should be shut down and run out of town because it's against the law and everyone is for being law abiding citizens yet in this case NOT upholding the law is perfectly acceptable.
Make up your mind folks!! Are we law abiding citizens or NOT?!
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If this was the pizza delivery kid and he was embarrassed I'd give him a pass, but a police officer is supposed to UPHOLD the law (which requires that he KNOW it), and also remain professional. Cops see nudity on many different calls and are expected to remain professional. To tell a breastfeeding mom to "cover that up" is honestly outrageous to me.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Posted by MandJZ
Here's the thing. It doesn't matter WHO she is, if she is crazy or whatever. If she was asked to cover up in relation to breastfeeding - that means as she is preparing to, during, or as she finishes nursing - than her rights were violated. Women have the right to breastfeed anywhere they are allowed to be, and this includes exposure of the nipple that is, as the wording goes, 'incidental' to the nursing. Period. Being asked, even politely, to cover up is a violation of that woman's right. It can and often does make the mother feel uncomfortable. And why is the comfort of the person asking her to cover up more important than her comfort as a nursing mother, and the comfort of her baby? And again, it doesn't matter who this woman is. Crazy people have rights, too.
Yes, it actually DOES matter if she is crazy. B/c crazy people say and do things that aren't always the TRUTH, especially when a lawsuit is involved. A police office is being sued. Last I checked the police officer also has rights, rights to not be accused of something he may not have done, or something that may have been reported out of context.
She could be telling the truth, but she could also NOT be telling the truth or may have a different version of what really happened. That's all I am saying.
If this didn't happen at all then that's fine. If she is blatantly making it up that's one thing. There was another police officer there - it should be fairly matter of fact to determine what happened.
However, my comments, and many others', are assuming this did take place and therefore we are commenting on how the police officer in question should have responded, given the law that protects this woman, and how he should now be handled.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Here's the thing. It doesn't matter WHO she is, if she is crazy or whatever. If she was asked to cover up in relation to breastfeeding - that means as she is preparing to, during, or as she finishes nursing - than her rights were violated. Women have the right to breastfeed anywhere they are allowed to be, and this includes exposure of the nipple that is, as the wording goes, 'incidental' to the nursing. Period. Being asked, even politely, to cover up is a violation of that woman's right. It can and often does make the mother feel uncomfortable. And why is the comfort of the person asking her to cover up more important than her comfort as a nursing mother, and the comfort of her baby? And again, it doesn't matter who this woman is. Crazy people have rights, too.
Yes, it actually DOES matter if she is crazy. B/c crazy people say and do things that aren't always the TRUTH, especially when a lawsuit is involved. A police office is being sued. Last I checked the police officer also has rights, rights to not be accused of something he may not have done, or something that may have been reported out of context.
She could be telling the truth, but she could also NOT be telling the truth or may have a different version of what really happened. That's all I am saying.
If this didn't happen at all then that's fine. If she is blatantly making it up that's one thing. There was another police officer there - it should be fairly matter of fact to determine what happened.
However, my comments, and many others', are assuming this did take place and therefore we are commenting on how the police officer in question should have responded, given the law that protects this woman, and how he should now be handled.
I agree. But it seems too many jump on the bandwagon without really thinking about the other side of the story. That's all I am trying to bring up.
Reminds me of when people jump on the posts about people getting receipts that have something about being gay written on it, or the thing with the DJ with the invite from the "gay" parents. Both cases were lies. Unfortunately there ARE many cases where someone blatantly lies or twists a story for attention or $$. Not sure if that's what is going on here but it HAS to be considered wherever a lawsuit and media attention is involved.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Posted by MandJZ
Here's the thing. It doesn't matter WHO she is, if she is crazy or whatever. If she was asked to cover up in relation to breastfeeding - that means as she is preparing to, during, or as she finishes nursing - than her rights were violated. Women have the right to breastfeed anywhere they are allowed to be, and this includes exposure of the nipple that is, as the wording goes, 'incidental' to the nursing. Period. Being asked, even politely, to cover up is a violation of that woman's right. It can and often does make the mother feel uncomfortable. And why is the comfort of the person asking her to cover up more important than her comfort as a nursing mother, and the comfort of her baby? And again, it doesn't matter who this woman is. Crazy people have rights, too.
Yes, it actually DOES matter if she is crazy. B/c crazy people say and do things that aren't always the TRUTH, especially when a lawsuit is involved. A police office is being sued. Last I checked the police officer also has rights, rights to not be accused of something he may not have done, or something that may have been reported out of context.
She could be telling the truth, but she could also NOT be telling the truth or may have a different version of what really happened. That's all I am saying.
If this didn't happen at all then that's fine. If she is blatantly making it up that's one thing. There was another police officer there - it should be fairly matter of fact to determine what happened.
However, my comments, and many others', are assuming this did take place and therefore we are commenting on how the police officer in question should have responded, given the law that protects this woman, and how he should now be handled.
I agree. But it seems too many jump on the bandwagon without really thinking about the other side of the story. That's all I am trying to bring up.
Reminds me of when people jump on the posts about people getting receipts that have something about being gay written on it, or the thing with the DJ with the invite from the "gay" parents. Both cases were lies. Unfortunately there ARE many cases where someone blatantly lies or twists a story for attention or $$. Not sure if that's what is going on here but it HAS to be considered wherever a lawsuit and media attention is involved.
Whether or not THIS specific case happened (although I would think that with another police officer on the scene, again, if it hadn't happened at all we would know by now), I personally know of more than one woman who was shamed or told to cover up in public places by those who serve the public. So it seems that there is a need for more awareness of the law and what the rights of nursing mothers are.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Posted by MandJZ
Whether or not THIS specific case happened (although I would think that with another police officer on the scene, again, if it hadn't happened at all we would know by now), I personally know of more than one woman who was shamed or told to cover up in public places by those who serve the public. So it seems that there is a need for more awareness of the law and what the rights of nursing mothers are.
I understand that side of it. Don't get me wrong. But…this is a different case. We are talking about a police officer who is trying to do a job, not sure of what kind of person he is dealing with. My gut is really telling me that he probably was trying to protect himself from a woman who is exposed who could claim harassment or other against an officer. The guy just can't win, and that's why I feel police officers have a really tough job "protecting themselves from those they are trying to protect".
I think this case varies greatly from a business or store telling a woman to cover up or she can't nurse. Police officers have to be extremely careful since they are involved in highly emotional and violent situations. I really think instead of trying to make a point that BF is allowed, why not think that this man was doing his best to protect this woman and also protect himself from any accusations. And I assume in his mind that was best accomplished by asking her to cover up if she was exposed. All assumptions on my part but time will tell.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Posted by MandJZ
Whether or not THIS specific case happened (although I would think that with another police officer on the scene, again, if it hadn't happened at all we would know by now), I personally know of more than one woman who was shamed or told to cover up in public places by those who serve the public. So it seems that there is a need for more awareness of the law and what the rights of nursing mothers are.
I understand that side of it. Don't get me wrong. But…this is a different case. We are talking about a police officer who is trying to do a job, not sure of what kind of person he is dealing with. My gut is really telling me that he probably was trying to protect himself from a woman who is exposed who could claim harassment or other against an officer. The guy just can't win, and that's why I feel police officers have a really tough job "protecting themselves from those they are trying to protect".
I think this case varies greatly from a business or store telling a woman to cover up or she can't nurse. Police officers have to be extremely careful since they are involved in highly emotional and violent situations. I really think instead of trying to make a point that BF is allowed, why not think that this man was doing his best to protect this woman and also protect himself from any accusations. And I assume in his mind that was best accomplished by asking her to cover up if she was exposed. All assumptions on my part but time will tell.
I get what your saying & my DH is a cop in NYC where people file complaints left & right about everything cops do. But the law says that he CANT tell her to cover up, regardless if he felt uncomfortable or was trying to protect himself. I can't stand ignorant or self entitled cops bc they make all cops seem bad when most of them are great. It's his job to know the law and uphold it regardless of how it makes him feel.
If she was going to make up an accusation, I think it'd be something worse than "he told me to cover that up". Also, all she did was file a complaint to raise awareness so other cops can maybe learn BFing laws.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Who knows the story? We were not there. All I know is that when a baby is screaming and hungry, you feed that baby! Especially, in your own car.
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Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Having breast fed two, I am on her side. I doubt she was exposing herself deliberately. It is possible the little one simply finished and turned its head away which briefly exposed her. I always used a shawl or had a shirt that covered up, but I know from experience that accidents can happen. Apparently she was in a stressful situation to begin with, which is why she called the police for help. Even if she isn't an angel incarnate, she ought to have be given some room for slack.
I can also say I have met some pretty thick policemen and can well believe that one might say such an insensitive thing. Most are very professional, and I am grateful for them, but there are some that fall short.
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Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
I'm gonna say that since she most likely has sole custody of her kids due to the court order against her ex, she's not crazy and this complaint is legit. That's my assumption.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Posted by HoneyBadger
What an asinine case. The cop is wrong, period, end if story. Women are allowed to be topless in public, regardless of whether they're bf'ing or not. This law was passed years ago. The guy needs to get a grip. Good lord.
It's funny how people with illegal apartments should be shut down and run out of town because it's against the law and everyone is for being law abiding citizens yet in this case NOT upholding the law is perfectly acceptable.
Make up your mind folks!! Are we law abiding citizens or NOT?!
Gosh, I love LIF
If this was the pizza delivery kid and he was embarrassed I'd give him a pass, but a police officer is supposed to UPHOLD the law (which requires that he KNOW it), and also remain professional. Cops see nudity on many different calls and are expected to remain professional. To tell a breastfeeding mom to "cover that up" is honestly outrageous to me.
Yup. Cop should know the law. His bad.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Who knows the story? We were not there. All I know is that when a baby is screaming and hungry, you feed that baby! Especially, in your own car.
Amen! I pulled over today and nursed my baby in a police station parking lot! It was the only place to puil off and my baby was screaming bloody murder. You gotta do what you gotta do!
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
I agree with both sides of the story but I know for a fact she is crazy!! I also know some history on her!! I'm not going to post here
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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I agree with both sides of the story but I know for a fact she is crazy!! I also know some history on her!! I'm not going to post here
 So there could be a valid reason the police officer asked her to cover up?
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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Posted by NoStressMom
I agree with both sides of the story but I know for a fact she is crazy!! I also know some history on her!! I'm not going to post here
So there could be a valid reason the police officer asked her to cover up?
So, to clarify, you're in favor of the police NOT upholding the law?
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
When it comes to nursing in public...
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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When it comes to nursing in public...
Or breasts in general
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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When it comes to nursing in public...
Or breasts in general
Oh so in THIS instance it's ok to be a hypocrite?
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Posted by NoStressMom
I agree with both sides of the story but I know for a fact she is crazy!! I also know some history on her!! I'm not going to post here
This is truly irrelevant.
The law states women can be topless in public. Too bad if the cop doesn't like it or is uncomfortable. It's the law and, well, frankly as a Suffolk PD he's getting paid a shit ton of money to UPHOLD it.
If he's not comfortable doing his six figure job perhaps he should consider finding a new career?
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
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I agree with both sides of the story but I know for a fact she is crazy!! I also know some history on her!! I'm not going to post here
This is truly irrelevant.
The law states women can be topless in public. Too bad if the cop doesn't like it or is uncomfortable. It's the law and, well, frankly as a Suffolk PD he's getting paid a shit ton of money to UPHOLD it.
If he's not comfortable doing his six figure job perhaps he should consider finding a new career?
I can't say for sure, would have to look into...I would imagine a police officer also has certain rights to protect himself in dealing with certain senarios and certain "victims or criminals" as well. The police officer may know her or her history as the comments regarding her history are piling up on News12 and some are pretty serious allegations about her past. Maybe he made that request to cover up to make it clear he was being professional despite her not being fully clothed (no matter what the reason she was not fully clothed). Some of the comments about her supposed illegal history relate to this senario to some extent so the officer may have been acting in his best judgement (which he may also be allowed to do). Keeping in mind he did not ask her to stop, but cover up. And no one can even say she was actually still "BF" when she was asked to cover up for that matter. She could have been exposed still. Just b/c that's her story does not mean that it's the truth or in the context she is telling it.
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Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
To be honest I think the woman is a complete storyteller something just doesn't add up here...
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
For those who think that "she's crazy " is a valid excuse for a cop to forget the law, here is my hypothetical diabetic: So if a cop gets called to a dispute involving a real emotionally disturbed "crazy" person, it's ok for that cop to forget the law and say & do whatever he wants as long as it's under the guise of "protecting himself" or making himself feel more comfortable in the situation ?
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What if this was a "crazy" woman wearing a low cut blouse showing cleavage...is it ok for the cop to tell her to cover up?
Just so we're clear, WHEN is it ok for a cop to forget the laws and act on his own feelings of what he thinks should or shouldn't be allowed under the law????
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Breastfeeding or not...she's allowed to have her breast out if she wants. She can walk around topless if she wants. In the street. At the beach. In her car. It's the law in NY.
Doesn't matter how crazy someone is or may be.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
I get everyone point and I'am also a breastfeeding mom so I get that also. All I'm saying is I do not believe a word Andrea says. She is always looking to get money. This whole situation turned into something else and once again she is coming out looking like mother of the year!! Which she is not.
she knows how to work the system know exactly what to say and act. She is a phony I can't believe the attention she is getting right now and I'm sure she knows deep down that she is going to get some $$$$$ out of this.
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Re: Suffolk mom files complaint over public breastfeeding
Posted by NoStressMom
I get everyone point and I'am also a breastfeeding mom so I get that also. All I'm saying is I do not believe a word Andrea says. She is always looking to get money. This whole situation turned into something else and once again she is coming out looking like mother of the year!! Which she is not.
she knows how to work the system know exactly what to say and act. She is a phony I can't believe the attention she is getting right now and I'm sure she knows deep down that she is going to get some $$$$$ out of this.
I am baffled why so many are believing this woman's story without questioning. Just because she bf her child does not mean she can't be a liar or a crazy who lies or twists stories for profit somehow. 
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