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leighla
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by Ophelia
i don't see her implying, clearly or otherwise, that she is a bad mom, just that she doesn't like to see this particular aspect of a persons parenting style. at least that is how I read it.
We all know how the written word can get twisted depending on how you read it and what frame of mind you are in.
The way a couple lines were written seemed very...condemning.
Like how DARE she do those things.
I think it's very different when you actually have a child in that age category and deal with them all the time.
Like an above poster said, never say never - there are so many things I looked at as a mom of a younger child and said "I won't do that" or "how could she" that in the moment I do too.
I harbor no hard feelings or anger towards the people with opposing views, I just put my two cents in as well which boil down to: I don't think it's all that bad to give your kid an ipad in the doctor's office.
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by leighla
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Who's attacking her? I just said it bothers me when I see this happen. I don't agree with young kids using high tech gadgets - not everyone feels the same way...no big deal.
I'm sure there are things other parents do that you don't agree with - are you not allowed to ask for others thoughts on it?
You are cleary implying (or perhaps I am just inferring) that she is somehow less of a mom because she allowed her child to play on an ipad instead of reciting a poem or creating a log cabin out of toothpicks.
My point is just that she might be a terrific, highly interactive mom but you made an assessment of her parenting skills based on a small amount of time.
We all do it, I've been guilty of it too.
You asked thoughts, I'm giving you mine.
I agree, I read it the same way.
When I'm with my kids I try to focus on them always, we are interactive, etc but honestly-everyone needs a break. If hers came in the waiting room at the doctor's office, so be it.
I too am not big on electronic gadgets for kids and I don't use twitter but that's my preference for my kid.
One more thing-just wanted to point out-she was at a doctor's office. Maybe her kid was sick and she was up all night with her kid and they both needed a break.
Not bashing you, but these are my "thoughts".
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:31 PM |
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:32 PM |
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Eireann
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Re: Thoughts
I don't care what anyone else is doing (gotta throw that in there  ), but that's not the way it works in my family.
I bring books or coloring books or dolls for my DDs to play with if necessary. I don't need my 3 year old to be tech saavy...especially not with a $600 iPad!  
As far as interacting with the kid...eh. I don't interact 24/7, that's what the coloring books at the restaurant are for sometimes!
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:36 PM |
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BriBri2u
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Re: Thoughts
I didn't mean for my post to come off as condeming in any way. I apologize if it did.
I do not know how much time they interact and LORD know as a new mom to a colic 4 month old - I know how precious 10 mins are.
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:48 PM |
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Janice
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Dr office, whatever. I would not do it, but since I have seen much worse, I would almost expect it.
Our favorite library class is currently suspended due to lack of participation. Enough kids show up...but due to the fact that parents are constantly on their devices during class instead of participating(singing, dancing, controlling their kids) classes are suspended.
They were warned, but still can't help themselves.
I go to parks with moms who hand over the ipad when their kid asks. Why aren't they told to go run and climb, I am not sure.
I was at the ortho office tuesday morning. 5 year old with dad's ipad. the only other ones there were us.
josh thought the carpet design looked like bananas...so he made believe he was an explorer looking for the gorilla who made the banana trail.
maybe the other dad wanted peace?
maybe he judged me for this squeaky voice that comes out of my kid non stop...
i think it is just different parenting.
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:52 PM |
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leighdvm
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Re: Thoughts
The only reason my kids won't have high-tech gadgets for awhile is because I don't know how to use them myself! I don't even text, for gosh sakes 
When I take my twins to the doctor's office, I give them anything I have in my purse or diaper bag to occupy them and that usually works for a MINUTE....then they are running all over the place. Not easy to keep twins busy when they have the attention span of a flea at their age.
And like pp have mentioned, I don't want them touching anything in that office that other sick kids have licked/sneezed on, etc.
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:55 PM |
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Kelly9904
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by BethanyLynn
I agree..only with the part that the mother wasnt watching her child.
Computers are the new age, and there are some educational games that can be played. My 3 yr old nephew can manuever around a computer better than I can. I think its great. Moderation is key with everything. Computers, video games etc
Agreed!
I was anti vidoe game until I had my own DS and saw how much he gained from some of them. First I think its important for them to know their way around a computer etc by and MUCH earlier age than us.
DS can use a computer by himself, he plays games on nick jr, sprout and kids 13. They look for shapes, colors, matching etc. DH just got an ITouch and DS does play that. Some games arent that educational, others are. Even the ones that arent IMO are good for understanding instructions and hand eye coordination.
It comes down to IMO, everything in moderation.
ETA: When we go out I bring toys, coloring books, etc. Sometimes those things work, other times he is begging to "get out of this place' after 5 minutes, so having something that will hold his attention is invaluable to me! But I am really thinking more like when we are out for an extended period of time, not 10 minutes in a waiting room...for that amount of time my DS is happy to just stare at the fish tank the ped has!
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| Posted 1/6/11 3:58 PM |
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CkGm
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by leighla
Posted by BriBri2u
This is what bothered me the most - the fact that she just handed it to her and went about her business. I think its nice to see parents interacting with their children instead of worrying about their tweets.
How do you know they hadn't been playing for 3 hours before that?
How do you know that it wasn't a reward for something?
How much attention were you paying to this other woman instead of to your own kid that you know EXACTLY what she was doing on her phone.
There are so many variables here. I just hate to lambast some woman for the small portion of time you saw her.
But I guess that's what we do, isn't it?
ITA- remind me not to have you over when I play Scrabble on my iphone as my DD and DS get to watch one episode of Curious George. I must be a "gasp" awful parent too.
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| Posted 1/6/11 4:03 PM |
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shapla79
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Re: Thoughts
I don't have a problem with a young child using an iPad, but personally I wouldn't bring it to the doctor's office.
I work in educational technology (getting my doctorate in it as well) and I teach teachers and students how to use different tech tools in the context of specific subjects from grades PK-12. Schools are buying class sets of iPads and introducing them at very young ages. Children are growing up in a digital age and tech tools can be wonderful for learning if used appropriately. There's a lot of misuses of technology, but there are also a lot of good uses of technology. It really depends on what the child is doing with it and what he/she is learning. I would be more curious to know if they were playing with age appropriate apps.
My 2 year old loves my iPad and he uses it a few times a week to explore apps that are appropriate for his age. DH and I often explore the apps with him. However, I do believe in moderation. He likes to play outside, color with coloring books, build legos, AND play with different technologies. DS loves reading Toy Story on the iPad, but we also read print books before going to bed. He turns the pages and understands that books have a beginning, middle, and end.
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Ophelia
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by CkGm
ITA- remind me not to have you over when I play Scrabble on my iphone as my DD and DS get to watch one episode of Curious George. I must be a "gasp" awful parent too.
this is unnecessary. she really didn't say that. why take this stance?
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| Posted 1/6/11 4:10 PM |
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Ophelia
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by leighla
Posted by Ophelia
i don't see her implying, clearly or otherwise, that she is a bad mom, just that she doesn't like to see this particular aspect of a persons parenting style. at least that is how I read it.
We all know how the written word can get twisted depending on how you read it and what frame of mind you are in.
oh, of course. we take to heart what resonates. I am just saying (and like the OP already stated) she wasn't calling anyone a bad anything, just voicing how she feels about technology and little ones.
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| Posted 1/6/11 4:12 PM |
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Waste06
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Re: Thoughts
We have Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Oliva, Wow Wow Wubzy, and Pokoyo on our iPhones for DS to watch.
We also have interactive games, flash cards and animal sounds on our phones for him.
We let him watch it when we're at the doctor's office, waiting on long lines in Target, heck - even on the changing table at home when we've exausted all other options and I need to keep him still so I can clean up poop!
So my response to the OP is No, I don't really have an issue with introducing technology to my DS at such a young age.
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| Posted 1/6/11 4:13 PM |
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well seeing as how my two year old was playing on my ipad while we were waiting outside my older DD's ballet class, I see nothing wrong with it.
If it was ALL the time, it would be a problem. But you saw 10 minutes into their lives. Maybe she's always a nightmare in waiting rooms and she knows this will pacify her. Maybe it was a pre-emptive "reward" because she was getting shots. Maybe she had a screaming fit in the car and she needed a few minutes to herself.
We have plenty of creative & imaginative play over here. Books, puzzles, art&crafts are well loved. But that doesn't mean I ban electronics. Its amazing the things he has learned from the ipad. He's TWO, and can name all the planets and what letters they start with. His matching skills are phenomenal. He traces letters and counts in spanish. Just because its electronic doesn't mean its evil.
If the kid had been reading a book or playing with blocks while the mom was on her phone, would that have been ok? Or what if mom had been playing with the ipad along with her? Which is the problem - that mom wasn't interacting or that DD was on the ipad?
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| Posted 1/6/11 4:21 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Thoughts
I am anti tech stuff for little kids. I didn't have that stuff growing up and learned to read, write, my colors, shapes, etc. the old fashioned way.
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| Posted 1/6/11 4:39 PM |
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Merf99
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Just wait till you have a 2,3 or 4 year old!  You'll be surprised that you do wahtever it takes to occupy them. But I am that mom! I don't have an ipad but if I had to take my DD to a dr's office, I am definitely giving her something to play with to keep quiet and not disturb anyone. And if it's during the week, chances are I'm on my blackberry because I'm working from home, or taking time out of my work day to take her to the doctor. Doesn't mean I don't pay attention to her, or don't get down on the floor to play with her.
It would be narrow minded to think that just because a parent does this in a doctor's office that they do it all the time.
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| Posted 1/6/11 5:00 PM |
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Merf99
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by BargainMama
I am anti tech stuff for little kids. I didn't have that stuff growing up and learned to read, write, my colors, shapes, etc. the old fashioned way.
You might be anti tech for kids but wait till your DC are in school. In pre-k, my DD is expected to know how to use a mouse, open and close a program and type on the computer and play games. They do learn alot from computers!
And this is coming from someone who does not even own an ipod.
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| Posted 1/6/11 5:01 PM |
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monkeybride
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My kids love the Ipad/ITouch. They are 5 and 2. This is their generation. Times have changed. You can't really compare it to what we had to do. I see nothing wrong with it.
My kids do plenty of fun and imaginative play to balance it all out.
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| Posted 1/6/11 5:15 PM |
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Dollface
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My daughter uses my iPhone and iPad. She also uses a stick she found in the basement and an empty box and pretends it's her row boat, then it becomes a paint can & brush and then she uses it as just a plain old stickball bat. She also has dolls, crayons, trains, blocks and a piano.
Maybe the mom wanted to bring a portable item with lots of options for keeping her child occupied rather than carrying a heavy bag of books, crayons, paper etc. To the doctor's office.
Maybe she didn't want him touching the germy toys that usually hang out in the waiting room.
Besides, you can download children's books onto an iPad.
I wouldn't judge or be worried about the kid or mom or their relationship. I'm sure kits fine. Waiting rooms are boring. Ipads and iPhones are fun. 
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| Posted 1/6/11 5:25 PM |
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CkGm
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by CkGm
ITA- remind me not to have you over when I play Scrabble on my iphone as my DD and DS get to watch one episode of Curious George. I must be a "gasp" awful parent too.
this is unnecessary. she really didn't say that. why take this stance?
Honestly, I felt this post was judgemental and I am sick of it. We are all moms, not perfect by any means and I didn't see it as a technology post but a "here is another mom not doing what I think is best" post.
Just my thoughts as I was asked...
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pickles16
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I'm home with DD all day. I interact with her for a good 95% of my day...Are there times that I have handed her my iphone to let her play on the apps I've downloaded for her or watch things that I've bookmarked on youtube for her, DEFINITELY...Esp when we're out sometimes and I need some downtime..so to give that mother the benefit of the doubt maybe that's just what was happening..I also know going to the ped with DD is always a production, I have to promise her a lollipop or something, so you never know...just another point of view!!!
I do agree on the stance on ignoring a child and not interacting though..but just wanted to point out that it could have been a situation as above!
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by leighla
You are cleary implying (or perhaps I am just inferring) that she is somehow less of a mom because she allowed her child to play on an ipad instead of reciting a poem or creating a log cabin out of toothpicks.
My point is just that she might be a terrific, highly interactive mom but you made an assessment of her parenting skills based on a small amount of time.
We all do it, I've been guilty of it too.
You asked thoughts, I'm giving you mine.
this!
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| Posted 1/6/11 6:59 PM |
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MAC222
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Okay..."thoughts" mean, share your thoughts, if you think its okay, so be it, if you agree with OP so be it as well...
I didn't take anything that was written as her attacking the mom, just saying, what has happened with technology, and how moms could ignore their kids...its okay, that many took it differently. But attacking the op?
Also, if the mom on her iphone kid was sick, she should have been paying more attention to the child, being that he or she was sick, not less...
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| Posted 1/6/11 7:13 PM |
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The OP has a right to her opinion, even if we all don't agree with it. Not every post can be the same old "happy mommy, happy baby" mantra.
Maybe her opinion is rooted in experience-- perhaps she plays make-believe games and builds pillow forts with her DC 24/7. Maybe her DC is too young to require such constant entertainment and she'll change her mind when her child hits that age. Either way, there's no need to get defensive toward her... just feel confident in the choices you made!
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| Posted 1/6/11 7:17 PM |
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Dd is 18 months and I let her play with my iPad as well as my phone, wii motes, DVD player. She knows how to take a DVD and insert it. She also knows how to control the wii mote, and she plays angry bird very well lol oh and she can answer my cell and my regular home phone, she knows exactly what buttons to push. Dd also knows which educational app she wants to pay with and turns it on. I am amazed. So I let her do it. She also has every toy that can inspire imagination. Books that she picks out and brings to me for reading. Plenty of outside activities and classes. I wouldn't judge a mom just by that short period of time you saw her.
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