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2boys1girl
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GioiaMia
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Re: Thoughts
I know this is turning into drama but I was wondering if anyone is worried about the effects these technologies have on eyesight?
My parents didn't need glasses until they were in their 50s. My much older brother and sister didn't need glasses until their 20s and I had glasses when i was ten. My eyesight is getting worse and worse due to using the computer every day for work and at home.
I just worry that all these screens and staring at them starting at age two may lead to eye problems later in life.
I know "everything in moderation" but I wonder if even a few hours a day staring at a screen may be harmful for a toddler?
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:22 AM |
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saraH
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I know that God exsists, I held her in my arms...
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While I won't buy an ipad or itouch or Iwhatever for DD's, I don't mind them playing with my phone while we are waiting for something.
DD (3) has her leapfrog game and will play with it at home or at my mom's or mil's house. But she much prefers to play with the toys. She has a huge imagination and imo there is nothing better.
ETA to answer Tilde's post about glasses. In our case, both DH and I wear glasses. Both my parents do and my MIL does. My girls eyesight is fine so far, but if they do need glasses in the future I wouldn't be surprised.
Message edited 1/7/2011 9:25:50 AM.
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:24 AM |
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DRMom
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Re: Thoughts
Posted by leighla
Posted by BriBri2u
This is what bothered me the most - the fact that she just handed it to her and went about her business. I think its nice to see parents interacting with their children instead of worrying about their tweets.
How do you know they hadn't been playing for 3 hours before that?
How do you know that it wasn't a reward for something?
How much attention were you paying to this other woman instead of to your own kid that you know EXACTLY what she was doing on her phone.
There are so many variables here. I just hate to lambast some woman for the small portion of time you saw her.
But I guess that's what we do, isn't it?
I didn't read past this post, but I was also thinking what if she was working? I am a WAHM and I might check e-mails or do some work while waiting at the Dr. I don't have an iPad to give my kids-but they play with toys there or look at books/magazines...
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:30 AM |
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Deedlebugs
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My DD has her own iTouch, she has since she was 2. She has learned so much from that thing. Some of the apps are amazing for learning and some are just fun. I am home all day with my kids, by myself, and I most certainly need a break. My DD is not an easy child and bringing her into a waiting room can be torture. I thank my lucky stars for my iPhone, her iTouch, whatever gets us through that time.
And as far as kids and technology... it is their future and there is no way around that. I like to know my kids have a head start on these things. The more they can learn, the better.
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:34 AM |
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Deedlebugs
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Posted by leighla
Posted by BriBri2u
This is what bothered me the most - the fact that she just handed it to her and went about her business. I think its nice to see parents interacting with their children instead of worrying about their tweets.
How do you know they hadn't been playing for 3 hours before that?
How do you know that it wasn't a reward for something?
How much attention were you paying to this other woman instead of to your own kid that you know EXACTLY what she was doing on her phone.
There are so many variables here. I just hate to lambast some woman for the small portion of time you saw her.
But I guess that's what we do, isn't it?
Exactly! I played play-doh popcorn factory last night for freaking 1.5 hours and then I was done. I told my DD to go do her super reader on my phone so I could clean up and use the bathroom.
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:36 AM |
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lucyloo
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Posted by munchkinfacemama
Honestly, I have no intent on giving my DD such electronics at a young age. But I would be a dirty liar if I said that I never handed her my Droid with the Toddler Lock she loves to stop a screaming and crying jag.
I guess my stance is why I will not buy her an Ipad, Iphone, Ipod, I-anything, Droid, laptop, desktop, etc etc, I have no problem letting her play with mine if I am in a dire situation and I need her to be calm and quiet!
I have to download that app! 
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:38 AM |
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Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
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I hate these threads.
a person posts about a specific situation...I saw Mom A do b, c, and d.
and people internalize and ask but you don't know if it was HIJKLMNOP.
meanwhile, it's a SPECIFIC situation.
if you need it use it are working whatever. she's not talking about YOU. not judging YOU (or anyone for that matter) and yet people get so farking NASTY. it's ridiculous.
and then someone is on their high horse, and then someone else needs to get the pole out of their arse and blah blah blah.
like computergirl said, just be CONFIDENT. no need to defend yourself with daggers out.
all you have to tell yourself is "I know what I do. and MY child is fine"
for all we know this particular mom DOES SUCK ENORMOUS BALLS. there ARE moms in the world who do.
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:41 AM |
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Deedlebugs
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Posted by Ophelia
I hate these threads.
a person posts about a specific situation...I saw Mom A do b, c, and d.
and people internalize and ask but you don't know if it was HIJKLMNOP.
meanwhile, it's a SPECIFIC situation.
if you need it use it are working whatever. she's not talking about YOU. not judging YOU (or anyone for that matter) and yet people get so farking NASTY. it's ridiculous.
and then someone is on their high horse, and then someone else needs to get the pole out of their arse and blah blah blah.
like computergirl said, just be CONFIDENT. no need to defend yourself with daggers out.
all you have to tell yourself is "I know what I do. and MY child is fine"
for all we know this particular mom DOES SUCK ENORMOUS BALLS. there ARE moms in the world who do.
Oh shush.. 
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:42 AM |
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isabelle2137
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Sorry OP, your post is harsh and judgmental IMO.
All bets are off when I take my sick child to the doctor. If the IPAD makes him happy in the waiting room, then I would do it. I would take the time and get a few work things done so that I am able to focus my full attention on what the doctor has to say and to clear some time for after the visit when my son will most likely need/want me to help him take meds, have a snack and try to settle down for a nap.
I give my son lots of attention. Call me a bad mom, but we can also be in the same room and do something independently of each other.
If you don't want to give your child electronic devices that young, then don't. But it's a pretty big stretch to assume parents who do are neglectful.
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:44 AM |
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Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
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Posted by Deedlebugs
Oh shush..
 
I think I am going to switch my sn to mamacranky or mamanosleep.
I think crankypants would but the smack down though if I bogarted her name. 
*peaceandlove* people
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:45 AM |
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Salason
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Why do people care so much about what OTHER people do? Why cant everyone just worry about their own families?
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| Posted 1/7/11 9:45 AM |
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CrankyPants
I'm cranky
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Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Deedlebugs
Oh shush..
I think I am going to switch my sn to mamacranky or mamanosleep.
I think crankypants would but the smack down though if I bogarted her name.
*peaceandlove* people
Nah, I would just whine and cry until someone gives me an IPAD to buy my silence
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:00 AM |
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leighla
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Posted by Ophelia
like computergirl said, just be CONFIDENT. no need to defend yourself with daggers out.
I'm confident in my decisions, but I also feel sometimes that people need to be shown the other side of the argument to think "Huh, maybe I was being judgmental, I didn't think of that point of view."
To me, that's the beauty of the boards when done nicely.
When Logan was first in daycare I remember posting about a SAHM that dropped her infant off at daycare every day.
I was incredulous and very judgmental about it.
It was pointed out to me by a few posters that there were a lot of potentially good and valid reasons she did that.
Turns out they were right - she suffered from severe PPD and didn't trust herself to be alone with her child.
I found this out a couple years later.
But I didn't think of it on my own.
That was an eye-opening experience for me.
And that's what soliciting thoughts is about - getting everyone's thoughts, not just those who agree with you.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:06 AM |
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MrsDrMatt
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Re: Thoughts
I am just amazed that you observed what she did and found it important enough to post here. People I do not know are not worth that much of my attention.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:06 AM |
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Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
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Posted by leighla
Posted by Ophelia
like computergirl said, just be CONFIDENT. no need to defend yourself with daggers out.
I'm confident in my decisions, but I also feel sometimes that people need to be shown the other side of the argument to think "Huh, maybe I was being judgmental, I didn't think of that point of view."
To me, that's the beauty of the boards when done nicely.
When Logan was first in daycare I remember posting about a SAHM that dropped her infant off at daycare every day.
I was incredulous and very judgmental about it.
It was pointed out to me by a few posters that there were a lot of potentially good and valid reasons she did that.
Turns out they were right - she suffered from severe PPD and didn't trust herself to be alone with her child.
I found this out a couple years later.
But I didn't think of it on my own.
That was an eye-opening experience for me.
And that's what soliciting thoughts is about - getting everyone's thoughts, not just those who agree with you.
she was being calling ignorant. and people then insinuated that she was calling someone a bad parent.
while I agree with everything you wrote, about opening eyes and getting a different perspective, which some people did without bashing the girl, some people didn't. that is not the way to have a free flow of ideas either, and all that I take issue with.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:19 AM |
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headoverheels
s'il vous plaît
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Posted by Tilde
I know this is turning into drama but I was wondering if anyone is worried about the effects these technologies have on eyesight?
My parents didn't need glasses until they were in their 50s. My much older brother and sister didn't need glasses until their 20s and I had glasses when i was ten. My eyesight is getting worse and worse due to using the computer every day for work and at home.
I just worry that all these screens and staring at them starting at age two may lead to eye problems later in life.
I know "everything in moderation" but I wonder if even a few hours a day staring at a screen may be harmful for a toddler?
I don't think so, because we didn't have computers until later on, well after we all needed glasses. I think it's mostly genetic.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:21 AM |
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Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
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Posted by headoverheels
Posted by Tilde
I know this is turning into drama but I was wondering if anyone is worried about the effects these technologies have on eyesight?
My parents didn't need glasses until they were in their 50s. My much older brother and sister didn't need glasses until their 20s and I had glasses when i was ten. My eyesight is getting worse and worse due to using the computer every day for work and at home.
I just worry that all these screens and staring at them starting at age two may lead to eye problems later in life.
I know "everything in moderation" but I wonder if even a few hours a day staring at a screen may be harmful for a toddler?
I don't think so, because we didn't have computers until later on, well after we all needed glasses. I think it's mostly genetic.
I am genetic and I had an eye infection which scarred my corneas.
dh had perfect vision until he fell in love with the internets.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:22 AM |
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Tine73
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Posted by nrthshgrl
I try to tailor the amount of gaming in my house & while my kids weren't allowed any video games until they were about 4-5-6, I will say that some games are geared toward that age. There are shapes & colors games just as well as there is angry bird.
I can't fault someone for occupying their kids time during a doctor's room visit. Having a sick kid or a healthy kid touching the community play toys in the office isn't ideal in my opinion.
As for her iPhone, I've checked my own phone at doctor's visits because I was technically working from home with a sick child - and in order to get that privilege, I needed to responsive.
ITA and don't see anything wrong with it for a short Doctors visits. Its much better than a kid screaming or running around.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:24 AM |
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bicosi
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Just throwing a question out there and Ophelia, I you because I agree with you 1000000%!
But how is our children using any of these tech gadgets/software, etc. any different from US using this messageboard/internet?
Can it be safe to say that the same judgment that was passed on the mother in the waiting room could passed on ANY of us that spend time on this (and any) other boards?
The point I'm trying to make is that although it's human nature for us to judge (we ALL do it), we need to remember that what you see on the surface may be deceiving or simply more complex than your interpretations have a right to summarize.
I too, used to made those judgments (mostly before I had children), and I now am more aware of them and I stop myself and remember what it feels like for people to judge ME..
So in honor of this, I am going to post the following song I remember from an episode of Sesame Street
“Still We Like Each Other” (sung by Grover)
I have fur that’s blue and fuzzy,
you may not have fur that’s blue and fuzzy,
still we like each other
I like gooey peanut butter,
you may not like gooey peanut butter,
still we like each other
We are friends,
you and me,
and it doesn’t matter what we look like,
or if sometimes we don’t agree, ‘cause
We are people who are different -
people can be very very different,
still they can like each other
hmmmm…
You have your looks and likes
and I have mine,
still we like each other fine
Link to the song!
http://sesamestreem.dabrosis.com/grover_sings_the_blues.html
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:25 AM |
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leighla
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Posted by Ophelia
she was being calling ignorant. and people then insinuated that she was calling someone a bad parent.
while I agree with everything you wrote, about opening eyes and getting a different perspective, which some people did without bashing the girl, some people didn't. that is not the way to have a free flow of ideas either, and all that I take issue with.
Hence my "when done nicely" disclaimer.
I do feel, as I said previously, that there was some "what a bad mom" tone implied there.
She said she didn't mean it that way, I'll take that at face value.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:28 AM |
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2boys1girl
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I believe that everyday in everyday situations us as mothers judge other peoples choices, parenting skills, decisions etc..
We just happen to not say it out loud but when we finally see it out in the open whether in black in white or from the mouth of another mother we are all of a sudden shocked  like "how dare she?" blah blah blah etc. etc. etc.
IMO nobody's hands are ever clean...its done here everyday on these boards to each other. Its done everytime you open a magazine, walk through the grocery store, and yes like the OP sit in the doctors waiting room...Its human nature to judge just not everybody has the kahunas to speak their mind about it afterwards.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:34 AM |
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Superkat
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My husband has an iPad, I have an iPad and my 2 year old has his OWN iPad. So there
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:50 AM |
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Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
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Posted by Superkat
My husband has an iPad, I have an iPad and my 2 year old has his OWN iPad. So there
he also has his own BMW. clearly he is on a dark path.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:54 AM |
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Superkat
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Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Superkat
My husband has an iPad, I have an iPad and my 2 year old has his OWN iPad. So there
he also has his own BMW. clearly he is on a dark path.
What can I say. I am amazingly rich since I live in the south and the cost of living is next to nada.
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| Posted 1/7/11 10:58 AM |
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