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Jenhos
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Re: Virus question

Back to the topic. Biden pushing vaccination by saying it every time he is on camera is enough? Should he make a gov’t mandate of vaccines? How about a mask mandate? Shutting down travel from all places with high cases? There is nothing he should be doing?

The hypocrisy is rich!

The immigration issue is bigger than just Covid. For those that think they are doing everything the same as Trump is delusional. If you think that then you would have to blame Biden for the crazy numbers of immigrants coming. Facilities are beyond over run and new ones being put up. So either there are way more coming or we aren’t processing them and sending them back very quickly.

Posted 8/16/21 2:23 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

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Posted by blu6385

I disliked trump but i didn’t necessarily blame him For what went on with the virus! I think the problem isn’t on on person to be able to solve. Everyone has to work together.

What is it that can be done. We all go on lockdown again and will people really listen?

Also not sure what immigrants coming into the country even has to do with uptick? Do we really think that’s the reason numbers are out of control again?




Thousands of COVID positive migrants are coming through our border every day then they are being sent to other states. They may not be the only reason that the numbers are ticking up but they are certainly a contribution to that fact.

To answer the original question personally I feel like this is a virus and it needs to play its course. Trump did Operation Warp Speed in order to get the vaccinations rolled out quickly but other than that I don't think there is anything this administration or any other administration could do to end this pandemic quicker.



This is not true. Title 42 is still in place and that was a Trump era policy. Illegally entering migrants are being immediately expelled to Mexico.
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Not being snarky but have you bene watching the news. Migrants are absolutely not being expelled quickly back to Mexico. There are camps being set up and they are absolutely being sent to different states....and these are the ones that are "caught" so to speak. There are plenty of migrants crossing over and going to friends and family. The border is an absolute shit show and even the liberal media is acknowledging that. Not a good look during a pandemic.



I guess they missed where Harris decided to go to the border but was NO WHERE NEAR the border and the area of all the problems.

If they push it under the rug, why wouldn't you think the American people would also.



Harris went to El Paso, TX which is on the border.
I don't necessarily agree with the policy or lack there of. I do agree with the stance that the source needs to be addressed and that would mean adding stability and eliminating corruption and crime in the home countries.
Again, I don't think the border crisis is being pushed under the rug - I think it's so immense of a humanitarian crisis that it's almost impossible to keep up.



El Paso is not where she should have been McAllen is one of the hot areas. Reporters head to certain places and that is one. NOT El Paso.

It is pushed under the rug by many, just look at this thread.

Posted 8/16/21 2:50 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

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It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
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You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?

Posted 8/16/21 2:51 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

Posted by Jenhos

Back to the topic. Biden pushing vaccination by saying it every time he is on camera is enough? Should he make a gov’t mandate of vaccines? How about a mask mandate? Shutting down travel from all places with high cases? There is nothing he should be doing?

The hypocrisy is rich!

The immigration issue is bigger than just Covid. For those that think they are doing everything the same as Trump is delusional. If you think that then you would have to blame Biden for the crazy numbers of immigrants coming. Facilities are beyond over run and new ones being put up. So either there are way more coming or we aren’t processing them and sending them back very quickly.



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Posted 8/16/21 2:52 PM
 

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Re: Virus question

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It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
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You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



I'm sure they must also have boards for people like you who enjoy whining about masks and vaccines and where you can peddle all of your lies, misinformation and right wing conspiracy theories. You should go find those boards and stay over there. Chat Icon

Stop telling her she can't post here. It's getting repetitive.

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Posted 8/16/21 3:05 PM
 

CookiePuss
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Re: Virus question

Posted by Jenhos

Back to the topic. Biden pushing vaccination by saying it every time he is on camera is enough? Should he make a gov’t mandate of vaccines? How about a mask mandate? Shutting down travel from all places with high cases? There is nothing he should be doing?

The hypocrisy is rich!

The immigration issue is bigger than just Covid. For those that think they are doing everything the same as Trump is delusional. If you think that then you would have to blame Biden for the crazy numbers of immigrants coming. Facilities are beyond over run and new ones being put up. So either there are way more coming or we aren’t processing them and sending them back very quickly.



If you are referring to me...I didn't say EVERYTHING...I said that Biden has kept some Trump era policies in place like Title 42.
There are huge amounts of migrants stemming to the Southern border - I don't deny that. It's a humanitarian crisis.
Mexico has also banned family detention and refuse to take back migrant families that crossed which is new for the Biden Adm.
It's false that Biden ever opened the borders because he did not.
Also, CoVid is forcing more people to flee on top of the corruption, gang and cartel violence and natural disasters.
Additionally, there is a huge back up from the previous administration that had a lot of migrants on hold in camps along the border in Mexico.

ETA: I do not believe the Federal Gov't should mandate vaccines or mask wearing. Airlines are already shutting down travel from hot spots and it's too late to do that now by the Fed. Gov't.

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Posted 8/16/21 3:24 PM
 

mommy2devin
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Re: Virus question

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Diane

Posted by Hofstra26

It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



Does that matter? Should we not post here? Do you have issue with MANY others who post that aren't local any longer? Or just me b/c I can't stand your BS? You never seem to call out klingklang... but maybe that's b/c you choose to use her past posts about very sensitive peronal issues against her instead. As long as you have SOMETHING to prove you are a crazy stalker, that is what you get stuck on. I will continue to post and call out your BS b/c at this point I will do it JUST so you can continue to harp on that when nobody else gives two sh**s. Find something else to come back with, you're ridiculous.

Posted 8/16/21 4:10 PM
 

mommy2devin
2 Boys, I need calgon!

Member since 10/07

1572 total posts

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Shannon

Re: Virus question

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Diane

Posted by Hofstra26

It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



I'm sure they must also have boards for people like you who enjoy whining about masks and vaccines and where you can peddle all of your lies, misinformation and right wing conspiracy theories. You should go find those boards and stay over there. Chat Icon

Stop telling her she can't post here. It's getting repetitive.

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Posted 8/16/21 4:10 PM
 

Anotherplease
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Re: Virus question

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Diane

Posted by Hofstra26

It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



I'm sure they must also have boards for people like you who enjoy whining about masks and vaccines and where you can peddle all of your lies, misinformation and right wing conspiracy theories. You should go find those boards and stay over there. Chat Icon

Stop telling her she can't post here. It's getting repetitive.

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All of you are so entertaining !

Posted 8/16/21 4:19 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

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It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
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You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



Does that matter? Should we not post here? Do you have issue with MANY others who post that aren't local any longer? Or just me b/c I can't stand your BS? You never seem to call out klingklang... but maybe that's b/c you choose to use her past posts about very sensitive peronal issues against her instead. As long as you have SOMETHING to prove you are a crazy stalker, that is what you get stuck on. I will continue to post and call out your BS b/c at this point I will do it JUST so you can continue to harp on that when nobody else gives two sh**s. Find something else to come back with, you're ridiculous.




You must not read all the posts as I HAVE called out KK, especially when she attacked all the parents on this board when the pandemic started.
People HAVE questioned why she even posts about things on the island when she doesn't live here anymore and we get, because her parents are still there.

Do you have ANY ties to LI?

Posted 8/16/21 4:51 PM
 

mommy2devin
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Member since 10/07

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Re: Virus question

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Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by Diane

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It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



Does that matter? Should we not post here? Do you have issue with MANY others who post that aren't local any longer? Or just me b/c I can't stand your BS? You never seem to call out klingklang... but maybe that's b/c you choose to use her past posts about very sensitive peronal issues against her instead. As long as you have SOMETHING to prove you are a crazy stalker, that is what you get stuck on. I will continue to post and call out your BS b/c at this point I will do it JUST so you can continue to harp on that when nobody else gives two sh**s. Find something else to come back with, you're ridiculous.




You must not read all the posts as I HAVE called out KK, especially when she attacked all the parents on this board when the pandemic started.
People HAVE questioned why she even posts about things on the island when she doesn't live here anymore and we get, because her parents are still there.

Do you have ANY ties to LI?



If I did I wouldn't give you any more information to internet stalk. I have friends/family all of the country, not just in your very small circle/area. Not that it's any of your concern. You only police the folks who call you out on your BS.

Posted 8/16/21 5:19 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

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Posted by mommy2devin

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Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Diane

Posted by Hofstra26

It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



Does that matter? Should we not post here? Do you have issue with MANY others who post that aren't local any longer? Or just me b/c I can't stand your BS? You never seem to call out klingklang... but maybe that's b/c you choose to use her past posts about very sensitive peronal issues against her instead. As long as you have SOMETHING to prove you are a crazy stalker, that is what you get stuck on. I will continue to post and call out your BS b/c at this point I will do it JUST so you can continue to harp on that when nobody else gives two sh**s. Find something else to come back with, you're ridiculous.




You must not read all the posts as I HAVE called out KK, especially when she attacked all the parents on this board when the pandemic started.
People HAVE questioned why she even posts about things on the island when she doesn't live here anymore and we get, because her parents are still there.

Do you have ANY ties to LI?



If I did I wouldn't give you any more information to internet stalk. I have friends/family all of the country, not just in your very small circle/area. Not that it's any of your concern. You only police the folks who call you out on your BS.



Only going by what you told everyone when you started here. To each their own.

Posted 8/16/21 5:29 PM
 

mommy2devin
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Member since 10/07

1572 total posts

Name:
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Re: Virus question

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Diane

Posted by Hofstra26

It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



Does that matter? Should we not post here? Do you have issue with MANY others who post that aren't local any longer? Or just me b/c I can't stand your BS? You never seem to call out klingklang... but maybe that's b/c you choose to use her past posts about very sensitive peronal issues against her instead. As long as you have SOMETHING to prove you are a crazy stalker, that is what you get stuck on. I will continue to post and call out your BS b/c at this point I will do it JUST so you can continue to harp on that when nobody else gives two sh**s. Find something else to come back with, you're ridiculous.




You must not read all the posts as I HAVE called out KK, especially when she attacked all the parents on this board when the pandemic started.
People HAVE questioned why she even posts about things on the island when she doesn't live here anymore and we get, because her parents are still there.

Do you have ANY ties to LI?



If I did I wouldn't give you any more information to internet stalk. I have friends/family all of the country, not just in your very small circle/area. Not that it's any of your concern. You only police the folks who call you out on your BS.



Only going by what you told everyone when you started here. To each their own.



And I NEVER said I didn't live IN St. Louis.. I said I DON'T live there NOW... so not sure why you are so hung up on where I am.

Posted 8/16/21 5:47 PM
 

Raging2020
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Virus question

What has he actually done

Posted 8/16/21 6:13 PM
 

MissJones
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Virus question

If Trump encouraged mask wearing from the beginning and did a total US shut down, we wouldn’t be here and he probably would have had a second term.

Posted 8/16/21 6:54 PM
 

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Re: Virus question

Posted by MissJones

If Trump encouraged mask wearing from the beginning and did a total US shut down, we wouldn’t be here and he probably would have had a second term.



Do you really believe this? LOL

Our own health experts don't even know what type of guidance to give yet you expect Trump or even Biden for that matter to have control.

The CDC and Fauci have flip flopped so much on this virus that they have lost credibility and the confidence of the American public. Between them and the governors that keep moving the goal post now the Delta variant it's no wonder people are so skeptical.

Also didn't Trump initially tried to close travel from China except he was called....wait for it..RACIST by a bunch of Dems who then paraded themselves around crowded Chinatown in NYC encouraging people to go it and do their thing right at the start of COVID. NYC ended up being ground zero for COVID.

I think by far and large a good majority of Americans were locked down, we social distanced, we masked up, we took precautions and yet here we are 18 months later no end in sight.

Even the states that took the most tyrannical measures are still experiencing COVID. Vaccines have been here for months and a bunch of states have a high vaccination rate, but yet COVID is still spreading amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Look at countries like Israel that have almost a 70% vaccination rate and yet they too are seeing a spike in COVID positive people.

Unfortunately this is a respiratory virus and I believe it just needs to play its course. I also believe COVID is not going away we need to learn how to live with it. Continue to develop the vaccine and find ways to lessen the symptoms for those that do fall very ill.Lockdowns and mandating masks forever is not the way.


Posted 8/16/21 8:12 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Diane

Posted by Hofstra26

It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
Chat Icon Chat Icon



You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



I would think you would be NICER since your hubby came home. Chat Icon




Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

But back to the discussion at hand...................



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



I'm sure they must also have boards for people like you who enjoy whining about masks and vaccines and where you can peddle all of your lies, misinformation and right wing conspiracy theories. You should go find those boards and stay over there. Chat Icon

Stop telling her she can't post here. It's getting repetitive.

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The pot calling the kettle black. Coming from the person who constantly tells people to go away.

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Posted 8/16/21 8:23 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Virus question

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by MissJones

If Trump encouraged mask wearing from the beginning and did a total US shut down, we wouldn’t be here and he probably would have had a second term.



Do you really believe this? LOL

Our own health experts don't even know what type of guidance to give yet you expect Trump or even Biden for that matter to have control.

The CDC and Fauci have flip flopped so much on this virus that they have lost credibility and the confidence of the American public. Between them and the governors that keep moving the goal post now the Delta variant it's no wonder people are so skeptical.

Also didn't Trump initially tried to close travel from China except he was called....wait for it..RACIST by a bunch of Dems who then paraded themselves around crowded Chinatown in NYC encouraging people to go it and do their thing right at the start of COVID. NYC ended up being ground zero for COVID.

I think by far and large a good majority of Americans were locked down, we social distanced, we masked up, we took precautions and yet here we are 18 months later no end in sight.

Even the states that took the most tyrannical measures are still experiencing COVID. Vaccines have been here for months and a bunch of states have a high vaccination rate, but yet COVID is still spreading amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Look at countries like Israel that have almost a 70% vaccination rate and yet they too are seeing a spike in COVID positive people.

Unfortunately this is a respiratory virus and I believe it just needs to play its course. I also believe COVID is not going away we need to learn how to live with it. Continue to develop the vaccine and find ways to lessen the symptoms for those that do fall very ill.Lockdowns and mandating masks forever is not the way.






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Posted 8/16/21 8:24 PM
 

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It's odd to me how quick some people are to blame immigrants for any uptick in COVID cases yet don't seem to put any blame on the countless thousands of Americans who refuse to get themselves vaccinated. We're our own problem, there is little blame to be placed elsewhere as far as I am concerned.

ETA - Biden has been pushing hard to encourage vaccination. If people won't vaccinate or follow any CDC guidelines what else can we do? As far as Trump, his failing was NOT delivering a cohesive, strong and NON DIVISIVE message regarding COVID and it's threat.




I am not putting all the blame on them, but it is odd, how they are so worried about this new strain, but letting people come over during a pandemic. Are they vaccinating them? Are they doing what they did when immigrants came through Ellis Island? What are they doing when they come over? Are they testing them, and if so, what are they doing if they test positive? Sorry, these are answers the American people should know,



Maybe they are being vaccinated. Everyone is simply assuming nothing is being done but perhaps that isn't the case.

But again, I am FAR less concerned about immigrants then I am my fellow Americans who are wandering around pretending like COVID isn't a threat to our public health and thinking they know better than literally every doctor, scientist, infectious disease expert and medical journal.

Like I said, we're our own problem...........not immigrants.



Immigrants ARE our problem now as they are around everyone else just as much as your fellow American.
Do you think they come into the country and just form their own community and see no one else but whom they came with?
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You don't believe in vaccines for anyone so why are YOU worried about unvaccinated immigrants being around you?

To my own point, the immigrant population is a FAR smaller population of people compared to the LARGE population of moron Americans in this country running around not giving a cr@p about COVID, whining about masks and refusing vaccines. Immigrants are the LEAST of my worries. We're self destructing as a nation without any "help" from the dreaded, diseased and sick immigrants some are so fearful of. Chat Icon



Please do NOT put words in my mouth as I NEVER said that. Trying to make me look bad is not going to work.

Go look up to see how many have crossed the border and let me know "small" you consider that to be.
I am not afraid of anyone, so you should really put in your post, "in general". I do agree though that they can be part of the problem.




I don't need to *try* to make you look bad, you do a fine job of that all on your own every time you post your nonsense. Chat Icon

And we ALL know where you stand on vaccines as you haven't shut up about it for MONTHS on end so this little game you're playing today here and on FHF of "am I vaccinated, am I not" and pretending like you believe in vaccines is falling on deaf ears.

And again, immigrants aren't the problem. They are just an easy scapegoat.



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Do you have some kind of social ineptitude? Is that why you are unable to carry on a conversation with ANYONE on here without bringing up details about their personal life? It's an odd problem you seem to have especially when nobody ever brings up your DH, kids, house, job, etc. The way you harp on people's lives makes you come across as a very unhappy, insecure and envious individual. I pity you.

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NOBODY has ever brought up my personal life? Wow, you have a very bad memory. Chat Icon

If I was unhappy, insecure and envious I would be cursing people out and calling them names and acting like a bully towards them. Chat Icon



Right... you always take the high road.. like stalking and posting peronal tidbits of information on the boards for all to see. Why do you get off on the stalking thing?



You are just upset that you lied and got caught. Sorry the search engine is so easy to use here.



OMG, where did I lie? Did I SAY I didn't ever live in St. Louis AREA???? Not sure what you are getting off on here.

And maybe don't be so quick to throw stones.. VB/WINDY/HAZEL.. whoever else you are but claim NOT to be. You're a joke.



I don't know what you get out of a board that is mainly for people from NY and started as a resource for that.
Don't they have boards in the mid-west that would be more appropriate for your area?



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Stop telling her she can't post here. It's getting repetitive.

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The pot calling the kettle black. Coming from the person who constantly tells people to go away.

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Not "people"...... just you. And many others repeatedly tell you the same. You're a menace on these boards.

Posted 8/16/21 8:27 PM
 

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I disliked trump but i didn’t necessarily blame him For what went on with the virus! I think the problem isn’t on on person to be able to solve. Everyone has to work together.

What is it that can be done. We all go on lockdown again and will people really listen?

Also not sure what immigrants coming into the country even has to do with uptick? Do we really think that’s the reason numbers are out of control again?




Thousands of COVID positive migrants are coming through our border every day then they are being sent to other states. They may not be the only reason that the numbers are ticking up but they are certainly a contribution to that fact.

To answer the original question personally I feel like this is a virus and it needs to play its course. Trump did Operation Warp Speed in order to get the vaccinations rolled out quickly but other than that I don't think there is anything this administration or any other administration could do to end this pandemic quicker.



This is not true. Title 42 is still in place and that was a Trump era policy. Illegally entering migrants are being immediately expelled to Mexico.
Link CNN



Not being snarky but have you bene watching the news. Migrants are absolutely not being expelled quickly back to Mexico. There are camps being set up and they are absolutely being sent to different states....and these are the ones that are "caught" so to speak. There are plenty of migrants crossing over and going to friends and family. The border is an absolute shit show and even the liberal media is acknowledging that. Not a good look during a pandemic.



I guess they missed where Harris decided to go to the border but was NO WHERE NEAR the border and the area of all the problems.

If they push it under the rug, why wouldn't you think the American people would also.



Harris went to El Paso, TX which is on the border.
I don't necessarily agree with the policy or lack there of. I do agree with the stance that the source needs to be addressed and that would mean adding stability and eliminating corruption and crime in the home countries.
Again, I don't think the border crisis is being pushed under the rug - I think it's so immense of a humanitarian crisis that it's almost impossible to keep up.



El Paso is not where she should have been McAllen is one of the hot areas. Reporters head to certain places and that is one. NOT El Paso.

It is pushed under the rug by many, just look at this thread.

. This is an example of why it’s so hard to have a productive conversation with you because your say “I guess they missed where Harris decided to go to the border but was NO WHERE NEAR the border and the area of all the problems. “. To which when it’s pointed out that El Paso is on the southern border, your answer is that it isn’t the right part of the southern border.
El Paso is very much on the border and feeling the influx. El Paso has seen a significant uptick in border patrol and by May, had over 22K encounters…the 3rd highest sector of the 9 sectors for that month. El Pase sector saw a 232% increase in encounters from Oct to March …Rio Grande Valley’s rate was 230%
So you saying Harris didn’t go to a stop that is experiencing the border crisis is untrue and just more untrue rhetoric. Stats are from Fackcheck. Org, texastribne.org. Express news.com ..just a few of the places I confirmed my information

Posted 8/16/21 8:50 PM
 

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Re: Virus question

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If Trump encouraged mask wearing from the beginning and did a total US shut down, we wouldn’t be here and he probably would have had a second term.



Do you really believe this? LOL

Our own health experts don't even know what type of guidance to give yet you expect Trump or even Biden for that matter to have control.

The CDC and Fauci have flip flopped so much on this virus that they have lost credibility and the confidence of the American public. Between them and the governors that keep moving the goal post now the Delta variant it's no wonder people are so skeptical.

Also didn't Trump initially tried to close travel from China except he was called....wait for it..RACIST by a bunch of Dems who then paraded themselves around crowded Chinatown in NYC encouraging people to go it and do their thing right at the start of COVID. NYC ended up being ground zero for COVID.

I think by far and large a good majority of Americans were locked down, we social distanced, we masked up, we took precautions and yet here we are 18 months later no end in sight.

Even the states that took the most tyrannical measures are still experiencing COVID. Vaccines have been here for months and a bunch of states have a high vaccination rate, but yet COVID is still spreading amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Look at countries like Israel that have almost a 70% vaccination rate and yet they too are seeing a spike in COVID positive people.

Unfortunately this is a respiratory virus and I believe it just needs to play its course. I also believe COVID is not going away we need to learn how to live with it. Continue to develop the vaccine and find ways to lessen the symptoms for those that do fall very ill.Lockdowns and mandating masks forever is not the way.






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Definitely. It’s not going anywhere and the media is causing so many to live in fear.

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Back to the topic. Biden pushing vaccination by saying it every time he is on camera is enough? Should he make a gov’t mandate of vaccines? How about a mask mandate? Shutting down travel from all places with high cases? There is nothing he should be doing?

The hypocrisy is rich!

The immigration issue is bigger than just Covid. For those that think they are doing everything the same as Trump is delusional. If you think that then you would have to blame Biden for the crazy numbers of immigrants coming. Facilities are beyond over run and new ones being put up. So either there are way more coming or we aren’t processing them and sending them back very quickly.



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They are flying immigrants to White Plains to reunite as families. I have not been able to find in articles where they go after they are reunited, late at night, at the White Plains airport…

Posted 8/16/21 9:00 PM
 

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Posted by blu6385

I disliked trump but i didn’t necessarily blame him For what went on with the virus! I think the problem isn’t on on person to be able to solve. Everyone has to work together.

What is it that can be done. We all go on lockdown again and will people really listen?

Also not sure what immigrants coming into the country even has to do with uptick? Do we really think that’s the reason numbers are out of control again?




Thousands of COVID positive migrants are coming through our border every day then they are being sent to other states. They may not be the only reason that the numbers are ticking up but they are certainly a contribution to that fact.

To answer the original question personally I feel like this is a virus and it needs to play its course. Trump did Operation Warp Speed in order to get the vaccinations rolled out quickly but other than that I don't think there is anything this administration or any other administration could do to end this pandemic quicker.



This is not true. Title 42 is still in place and that was a Trump era policy. Illegally entering migrants are being immediately expelled to Mexico.
Link CNN



Not being snarky but have you bene watching the news. Migrants are absolutely not being expelled quickly back to Mexico. There are camps being set up and they are absolutely being sent to different states....and these are the ones that are "caught" so to speak. There are plenty of migrants crossing over and going to friends and family. The border is an absolute shit show and even the liberal media is acknowledging that. Not a good look during a pandemic.



I guess they missed where Harris decided to go to the border but was NO WHERE NEAR the border and the area of all the problems.

If they push it under the rug, why wouldn't you think the American people would also.



Harris went to El Paso, TX which is on the border.
I don't necessarily agree with the policy or lack there of. I do agree with the stance that the source needs to be addressed and that would mean adding stability and eliminating corruption and crime in the home countries.
Again, I don't think the border crisis is being pushed under the rug - I think it's so immense of a humanitarian crisis that it's almost impossible to keep up.



El Paso is not where she should have been McAllen is one of the hot areas. Reporters head to certain places and that is one. NOT El Paso.

It is pushed under the rug by many, just look at this thread.

. This is an example of why it’s so hard to have a productive conversation with you because your say “I guess they missed where Harris decided to go to the border but was NO WHERE NEAR the border and the area of all the problems. “. To which when it’s pointed out that El Paso is on the southern border, your answer is that it isn’t the right part of the southern border.
El Paso is very much on the border and feeling the influx. El Paso has seen a significant uptick in border patrol and by May, had over 22K encounters…the 3rd highest sector of the 9 sectors for that month. El Pase sector saw a 232% increase in encounters from Oct to March …Rio Grande Valley’s rate was 230%
So you saying Harris didn’t go to a stop that is experiencing the border crisis is untrue and just more untrue rhetoric. Stats are from Fackcheck. Org, texastribne.org. Express news.com ..just a few of the places I confirmed my information



She was bashed by both sides where she went. Plain and simple.

Posted 8/16/21 9:25 PM
 

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Re: Virus question

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by MissJones

If Trump encouraged mask wearing from the beginning and did a total US shut down, we wouldn’t be here and he probably would have had a second term.



Do you really believe this? LOL

Our own health experts don't even know what type of guidance to give yet you expect Trump or even Biden for that matter to have control.

The CDC and Fauci have flip flopped so much on this virus that they have lost credibility and the confidence of the American public. Between them and the governors that keep moving the goal post now the Delta variant it's no wonder people are so skeptical.

Also didn't Trump initially tried to close travel from China except he was called....wait for it..RACIST by a bunch of Dems who then paraded themselves around crowded Chinatown in NYC encouraging people to go it and do their thing right at the start of COVID. NYC ended up being ground zero for COVID.

I think by far and large a good majority of Americans were locked down, we social distanced, we masked up, we took precautions and yet here we are 18 months later no end in sight.

Even the states that took the most tyrannical measures are still experiencing COVID. Vaccines have been here for months and a bunch of states have a high vaccination rate, but yet COVID is still spreading amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Look at countries like Israel that have almost a 70% vaccination rate and yet they too are seeing a spike in COVID positive people.

Unfortunately this is a respiratory virus and I believe it just needs to play its course. I also believe COVID is not going away we need to learn how to live with it. Continue to develop the vaccine and find ways to lessen the symptoms for those that do fall very ill.Lockdowns and mandating masks forever is not the way.





I do! I blame the mask divisiveness on him. He has a LOT of people who look to him as a god. He mocked masks, discredited their effectiveness, and to My knowledge hasn’t come out and admitted he’s vaccinated. If he encouraged mask wearing, his disciples might have done their part. Instead, people flat out defied common sense.

Posted 8/16/21 9:34 PM
 

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Re: Virus question

Posted by MissJones

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by MissJones

If Trump encouraged mask wearing from the beginning and did a total US shut down, we wouldn’t be here and he probably would have had a second term.



Do you really believe this? LOL

Our own health experts don't even know what type of guidance to give yet you expect Trump or even Biden for that matter to have control.

The CDC and Fauci have flip flopped so much on this virus that they have lost credibility and the confidence of the American public. Between them and the governors that keep moving the goal post now the Delta variant it's no wonder people are so skeptical.

Also didn't Trump initially tried to close travel from China except he was called....wait for it..RACIST by a bunch of Dems who then paraded themselves around crowded Chinatown in NYC encouraging people to go it and do their thing right at the start of COVID. NYC ended up being ground zero for COVID.

I think by far and large a good majority of Americans were locked down, we social distanced, we masked up, we took precautions and yet here we are 18 months later no end in sight.

Even the states that took the most tyrannical measures are still experiencing COVID. Vaccines have been here for months and a bunch of states have a high vaccination rate, but yet COVID is still spreading amongst the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Look at countries like Israel that have almost a 70% vaccination rate and yet they too are seeing a spike in COVID positive people.

Unfortunately this is a respiratory virus and I believe it just needs to play its course. I also believe COVID is not going away we need to learn how to live with it. Continue to develop the vaccine and find ways to lessen the symptoms for those that do fall very ill.Lockdowns and mandating masks forever is not the way.





I do! I blame the mask divisiveness on him. He has a LOT of people who look to him as a god. He mocked masks, discredited their effectiveness, and to My knowledge hasn’t come out and admitted he’s vaccinated. If he encouraged mask wearing, his disciples might have done their part. Instead, people flat out defied common sense.



Did you honestly see that many people out in public without masks when they were mandated?

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