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what can i do about neighbors dog?!
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tara73
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what can i do about neighbors dog?!
So there was this story in the news the other day about a pair of Alaskan Malamutes who killed a 7 year old girl up in Canada in March. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/girl-7-mauled-to-death-by-dogs-near-winnipeg-1.2575514
And there was this Alaskan malamute who killed a 6 DAY old child in England http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eliza-mae-mullane-pontyberem-death-mum-3160477
So, newnameshitstirrer, don't make assumptions based on breed. All dogs, especially large dogs, can be dangerous and inflict fatal injury. While the breeds commonly referred to as "pit bulls" do have a tendency to be dog aggressive/high prey drive , as they were bred to fight in the pit (to be "game"), they do not have jaws of steel or even stronger jaws than other breeds of their size or larger.
And? Dog aggression is not the same as human aggression. So comparing a yorkie to a 4 year old is absurd. A dog knows the difference between a human, a dog, a cat, a rabbit, a squirrel etc. and any larger dog can injure or kill a small dog like a yorkie. Even a comparably sized dog can kill another dog.
Also, we have insurance and were NEVER asked the breed of our dog, only if she had a bite history. Not all insurance companies ban certain breeds.
My girl is the biggest mush and loves kids but I have no doubt that she could inflict damage intentionally or even accidentally in the right circumstances. As a parent AND as a responsible dog owner, my job is to prevent that "perfect storm" from brewing. She is trained. She is walked on a strong leash with a strong collar, as any medium to large dog should be. No flexi leads or snap together collars, bigger dogs are strong enough to break them if they want to. But, the key word is RESPONSIBLE. The problem with most pit bull type dogs is on the other end of the leash: you have two problem type owners: people who have good intentions but forget that they are still big dogs who need training and discipline and idiots/thugs/wannabes who think they will look tough with one and don't bother to train or instill any discipline into the dog. Frankly, I've stopped walking my dog because of morons with their little dogs on flexi leads who let the lead out because they think it's "cute" and "friendly" for their dog to approach, lunge, and growl and bark at my dog aggressively. Again, the problem isn't the DOG (who is behaving like a dog) it is the OWNER not properly restraining their dog.
OP, if you're that worried about it you have some choices:
-You can get some PVC piping and install a coyote roller along the fence that borders with them, this will prevent the dog from being able to get a grip on the top of the fence.
-You can toss a dog treat over towards him but this could just reinforce the behavior.
-You can go introduce yourself to the dog with the owners. We did this for our neighbor. My dog would bark at the fence because she was unknown. We introduced her to our neighbors and she will now just bark a quick hello bark (two or three short barks) and walk away
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by tara73
So there was this story in the news the other day about a pair of Alaskan Malamutes who killed a 7 year old girl up in Canada in March. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/girl-7-mauled-to-death-by-dogs-near-winnipeg-1.2575514
And there was this Alaskan malamute who killed a 6 DAY old child in England http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eliza-mae-mullane-pontyberem-death-mum-3160477
So, newnameshitstirrer, don't make assumptions based on breed. All dogs, especially large dogs, can be dangerous and inflict fatal injury. While the breeds commonly referred to as "pit bulls" do have a tendency to be dog aggressive/high prey drive , as they were bred to fight in the pit (to be "game"), they do not have jaws of steel or even stronger jaws than other breeds of their size or larger.
And? Dog aggression is not the same as human aggression. So comparing a yorkie to a 4 year old is absurd. A dog knows the difference between a human, a dog, a cat, a rabbit, a squirrel etc. and any larger dog can injure or kill a small dog like a yorkie. Even a comparably sized dog can kill another dog.
Also, we have insurance and were NEVER asked the breed of our dog, only if she had a bite history. Not all insurance companies ban certain breeds.
My girl is the biggest mush and loves kids but I have no doubt that she could inflict damage intentionally or even accidentally in the right circumstances. As a parent AND as a responsible dog owner, my job is to prevent that "perfect storm" from brewing. She is trained. She is walked on a strong leash with a strong collar, as any medium to large dog should be. No flexi leads or snap together collars, bigger dogs are strong enough to break them if they want to. But, the key word is RESPONSIBLE. The problem with most pit bull type dogs is on the other end of the leash: you have two problem type owners: people who have good intentions but forget that they are still big dogs who need training and discipline and idiots/thugs/wannabes who think they will look tough with one and don't bother to train or instill any discipline into the dog. Frankly, I've stopped walking my dog because of morons with their little dogs on flexi leads who let the lead out because they think it's "cute" and "friendly" for their dog to approach, lunge, and growl and bark at my dog aggressively. Again, the problem isn't the DOG (who is behaving like a dog) it is the OWNER not properly restraining their dog.
OP, if you're that worried about it you have some choices:
-You can get some PVC piping and install a coyote roller along the fence that borders with them, this will prevent the dog from being able to get a grip on the top of the fence.
-You can toss a dog treat over towards him but this could just reinforce the behavior.
-You can go introduce yourself to the dog with the owners. We did this for our neighbor. My dog would bark at the fence because she was unknown. We introduced her to our neighbors and she will now just bark a quick hello bark (two or three short barks) and walk away
Exactly. My neighbors dog is a barker. We introduced ourselves. And they said to acknowledge him by name and he'll stop. Gunther, the large bred (unsure of the mix but he's huge) was rescued during a drug bust. The cop, my neighbor, adopted him and rehabbed him. What a big teddy bear he is! So when I walk by their home and he barks I say "hi Gunther. It's just me and Coco! " he stops almost immediately.
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MrsA1012
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
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Posted by Newname3
I totally agree. Pitbulls have been bred to cause maximum damage when they attack. That is why they are the dog of choice for drug dealers, criminals, and unfortunately your neighbors. I have had dogs my whole life, including an enormous Alaskan malamute. I spent one night at my friends home who had a pitbull and was terrified. He was so aggressive, my friend wound up putting him the bathroom for the night, where I had the pleasure of listening to him growl menacingly all night. These dogs have no place in family neighborhoods!
Unfortunately your friend was an irresponsible pitbull owner. Pitbulls like MOST dogs, especially large breeds NEED to be properly trained! Saying they have no place in family neighborhoods is a bit of a stretch. I have 2 friends who have pitbulls (and/or cats and kids that reside with said dogs) and those dogs are the sweetest animals ever. But due to the fact that there are still many people who train their pits to be aggressive or just don't properly train them, their reputation is less than stellar and I can understand why people fear them.
.  I've known many well-trained pits who are angels.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by lilqtny
Posted by tara73
So there was this story in the news the other day about a pair of Alaskan Malamutes who killed a 7 year old girl up in Canada in March. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/girl-7-mauled-to-death-by-dogs-near-winnipeg-1.2575514
And there was this Alaskan malamute who killed a 6 DAY old child in England http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eliza-mae-mullane-pontyberem-death-mum-3160477
So, newnameshitstirrer, don't make assumptions based on breed. All dogs, especially large dogs, can be dangerous and inflict fatal injury. While the breeds commonly referred to as "pit bulls" do have a tendency to be dog aggressive/high prey drive , as they were bred to fight in the pit (to be "game"), they do not have jaws of steel or even stronger jaws than other breeds of their size or larger.
And? Dog aggression is not the same as human aggression. So comparing a yorkie to a 4 year old is absurd. A dog knows the difference between a human, a dog, a cat, a rabbit, a squirrel etc. and any larger dog can injure or kill a small dog like a yorkie. Even a comparably sized dog can kill another dog.
Also, we have insurance and were NEVER asked the breed of our dog, only if she had a bite history. Not all insurance companies ban certain breeds.
My girl is the biggest mush and loves kids but I have no doubt that she could inflict damage intentionally or even accidentally in the right circumstances. As a parent AND as a responsible dog owner, my job is to prevent that "perfect storm" from brewing. She is trained. She is walked on a strong leash with a strong collar, as any medium to large dog should be. No flexi leads or snap together collars, bigger dogs are strong enough to break them if they want to. But, the key word is RESPONSIBLE. The problem with most pit bull type dogs is on the other end of the leash: you have two problem type owners: people who have good intentions but forget that they are still big dogs who need training and discipline and idiots/thugs/wannabes who think they will look tough with one and don't bother to train or instill any discipline into the dog. Frankly, I've stopped walking my dog because of morons with their little dogs on flexi leads who let the lead out because they think it's "cute" and "friendly" for their dog to approach, lunge, and growl and bark at my dog aggressively. Again, the problem isn't the DOG (who is behaving like a dog) it is the OWNER not properly restraining their dog.
OP, if you're that worried about it you have some choices:
-You can get some PVC piping and install a coyote roller along the fence that borders with them, this will prevent the dog from being able to get a grip on the top of the fence.
-You can toss a dog treat over towards him but this could just reinforce the behavior.
-You can go introduce yourself to the dog with the owners. We did this for our neighbor. My dog would bark at the fence because she was unknown. We introduced her to our neighbors and she will now just bark a quick hello bark (two or three short barks) and walk away
Exactly. My neighbors dog is a barker. We introduced ourselves. And they said to acknowledge him by name and he'll stop. Gunther, the large bred (unsure of the mix but he's huge) was rescued during a drug bust. The cop, my neighbor, adopted him and rehabbed him. What a big teddy bear he is! So when I walk by their home and he barks I say "hi Gunther. It's just me and Coco! " he stops almost immediately.
Awww! LOL. That's cute. 
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
My neighbors have two "show" dogs. One is a Portuguese Water Dog (same dog as President Obama) and the other is a Corgi which is small. Let me tell you, these dogs bark ALL THE TIME when they are outside. It is so annoying. They are nice people so I tolerate it but it does get annoying, especially at 6am when they let the dogs out before they leave for work, lol.
We have babysat for my DH's friend's Pitbulls (he has 2). They are the smartest, most loving dogs I have ever met. I literally woke up one night after falling asleep on the couch and one of them was asleep on top of me, LOL. I really want one once my boys are a little older. I agree with the above posters that it is the owners, NOT the dog who are the problem. I would try talking to them first, and if they are not responsive see if you can get a local rescue involved, perhaps to just pay them a visit to "check up" on how the dog is being cared for. It may help to educate them or scare them into taking better care of their pet.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
I don't agree with "it's the owners, not the dog bit". Any breed can act out violently friends of ours who are the most loving and caring people for their pit dog who they raised since a baby pup attacked there two year olds face right in front of them. This pit who I have met with my kids was sweet and never gave me fear so I was so shocked to hear this happened. The pit was chewing on his toy and two feet a way the 2 year old was playing with his toys. The dog got up to walk into the other room abruptly stopped and then just attacked and that's it. The baby got 8 stitches they called the police, they came and then someone else to take the dog. I was shocked because this dog was raised with lots of love and care.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by Newname3
Ugh yes I know it's shady if you don't have 450,000 posts attached to your name or haven't been on here since 1999. Thanks for reminding me why I left this nasty, bitter horns nest. Time to deactivate my second account!
Oh thank goodness.
We sure as shit don't need ignorant posters such as yourself on this board.
Go to a shelter.
Go educate yourself on pitbulls and ALL other breeds of dog.
Then come back and post comments that are more than opinion trying to be passed off as fact.
Here are some actual FACTS:
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by adeline27
I don't agree with "it's the owners, not the dog bit". Any breed can act out violently friends of ours who are the most loving and caring people for their pit dog who they raised since a baby pup attacked there two year olds face right in front of them. This pit who I have met with my kids was sweet and never gave me fear so I was so shocked to hear this happened. The pit was chewing on his toy and two feet a way the 2 year old was playing with his toys. The dog got up to walk into the other room abruptly stopped and then just attacked and that's it. The baby got 8 stitches they called the police, they came and then someone else to take the dog. I was shocked because this dog was raised with lots of love and care.
99.9% its the people that raise them. But there is that 1% where ANY dog can snap. We had a chocolate lab that attacked my neighbor out of no where. She was at our house and basically the same thing happened. She was doing nothing and he just attacked. It happens. Ever watch cesar millan, he says it all the time. The owner has to be the dominate one and take charge of the dogs. You see it with all the dogs that are "bad" in till the owner knows how to deal and train a dog, the dog suffers.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by adeline27
I don't agree with "it's the owners, not the dog bit". Any breed can act out violently friends of ours who are the most loving and caring people for their pit dog who they raised since a baby pup attacked there two year olds face right in front of them. This pit who I have met with my kids was sweet and never gave me fear so I was so shocked to hear this happened. The pit was chewing on his toy and two feet a way the 2 year old was playing with his toys. The dog got up to walk into the other room abruptly stopped and then just attacked and that's it. The baby got 8 stitches they called the police, they came and then someone else to take the dog. I was shocked because this dog was raised with lots of love and care.
Just because the dog was raised with love doesn't mean it was raised with discipline. All dogs need discipline and need to know their place in the pack (especially large dogs... this goes for any breed). They are animals. Spoiling a dog with love confuses them about their pack order and gives them the idea they are the alpha. This is the owners fault.
You also hear stories about a 12 yr old family dog attacking but those are likely a result of a medical problem due to old age.
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adeline27
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
They spent more money on that dog then their kids including a cost of a very expensive dog trainer. They were at no fault.
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adeline27
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Just want to add they also have an older pit they are still keeping who wasnt in the room when this happened. Theve had this dog for years with no incident. These people are educated about raising them. This was an unexpected sad surprise to them.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by adeline27
They spent more money on that dog then their kids including a cost of a very expensive dog trainer. They were at no fault.
It was absolutely their fault as no baby/child should ever be in that position. There is always a chance that a dog may attack. They are animals and revert to natural instincts. They may have spent a fortune but that doesn't mean the training was adequate or long term. Being pack animals, dogs will always fight to improve their place in the chain of command. You need to stay on top of it daily with a large dog especially certain breeds. Babies are the weakest member of the family and that's why they are attacked more then adults. I have worked with expert animal behaviorists and trainers in my line of work. Anyone with a large breed dog needs to be educated about animal instinct and behaviors. Things you don't even realize have an impact (like feeding your dog before sitting down to dinner) can change the pack order in an instant.
I just want to add a couple articles that explain this a little better because it's important for people to know that dogs are not humans and their instincts are completely different:
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"Also, babies don’t blink very often, which is a sign of confrontation to a dog. In the wild, dogs will not look each other in the eye; they keep their head down and appear deferential, unless they are fighting for dominance. So, a steely stare is a clear indication of intent.
Understanding pack order
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tara73
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what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Or, maybe it was a dog that shouldn't have ever been "trained" to begin with.
Some dogs are just wired wrong and some people just have the urge to "fix" what can't be fixed.
ANY dog, big or small, who shows true human aggression should be euthanized. Truly human aggressive dogs are not reacting because of a fear or pain, they are just unfixable and can only be managed.
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what can i do about neighbors dog?!
My brother has an American Bulldog..looks a lot like a pit and he's huge but he is the BIGGEST mush ever. He is scared of EVERYTHING..bicycles, little dogs, etc. My brother also has a little shitzu that is mean as shit. Attacks everything and everyone...I'm scared of him. My cocker spaniel was gorgeous but he could be mean. IMO the bigger dogs tend to be more calm than the smaller ones. In any case I would try talking to your neighbor first because I agree that is unfair and annoying. Good Luck!
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
I also disagree with the sentiment that it is the owner not the breed. I think it's both. It's the same age old debate of nature v nurture. In my life I have owned 4 breeds of dogs: pit bull, german Shepard, pug and j.r. Terrier. They each exhibit personality traits that conform to their breed type and what they were bred for. Our pit never exhibited any dangerous propensity however, I would be lying if I said I felt 100% as comfortable around him as I do around the pug. Aside from the different personality of a pit v a pug - if a pug were to bite my child the danger would be minimal due to their size and anatomy. If a pit were to bite my child the injuries could be fatal. So yes, there are greater inherent risks in certain dog breeds than in others and how they were raised is a component, yes, but not the only component.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by Jugglemom
I also disagree with the sentiment that it is the owner not the breed. I think it's both. It's the same age old debate of nature v nurture. In my life I have owned 4 breeds of dogs: pit bull, german Shepard, pug and j.r. Terrier. They each exhibit personality traits that conform to their breed type and what they were bred for. Our pit never exhibited any dangerous propensity however, I would be lying if I said I felt 100% as comfortable around him as I do around the pug. Aside from the different personality of a pit v a pug - if a pug were to bite my child the danger would be minimal due to their size and anatomy. If a pit were to bite my child the injuries could be fatal. So yes, there are greater inherent risks in certain dog breeds than in others and how they were raised is a component, yes, but not the only component.
This is partially true, but can apply to ALL larger dogs.
People do need to stop confusing ANIMAL agression/prey drive with human agression though.
Animal aggression, including dog aggression, is a trait of ALL dogs belonging to the terrier group (including the American Pit Bull Terrier/American Staffordshire Terrier).
Human aggression in an APBT/AmStaff is not a breed trait.
And a German Shepherd Dog has a stronger bite than an APBT as shown in bite tests.
The OWNER has the responsibility to manage their dog, be it a teacup chihuaha, a bull mastiff, APBT etc.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by Laurie106
my neighbors shoot our dog w the hose. that makes him quiet for a bit. at first it made me mad but now i dont care. he barks less lol
Yea no. I'd be pissed!! I'm a respectful owner though. My neighbors have commented that if they hear my dog bark then they know there's a problem because she is so wel behaved. She is a bully breed too. I would write an anonymous letter first and then take it from there.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by Newname3
Ugh yes I know it's shady if you don't have 450,000 posts attached to your name or haven't been on here since 1999. Thanks for reminding me why I left this nasty, bitter horns nest. Time to deactivate my second account!
as a gal with less than 450k post who has been SLAMMED for saying stupid shit in the past.. allow me to say.. if you say an utterly bias and totally unsupported statement like all pitts are vicious and that ANY particular breed of dog is unfit for a neighborhood .. I don't care HOW many posts you have .. you're gonna be called out.
If you are familiar with our nasty, bitter horns nets then you'd HAVE to have known that by now.
But I am sure we horny gals won't miss you.
If you can't handle the horns stay out of the nest!
if you want talk shit then at least own up to it.
ETA: now I totally want to change my profile title to "HORNY NEST DWELLER" 
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what can i do about neighbors dog?!
to OP, best of luck.. I agree with a lot of the suggestions on here.
But as a side note, the reason you 'must' have homeowners insurance for certain breeds has NOTHING to do with the breed AT ALL! No dog is born ready to kill or maim. We TEACH them that. The reason some breeds are singled out is that 'we' singled them out because of their size, grimace, persistence and intelligence. We made them into protectors first. It was crime that made them into beasts secondly. It is only because we has humans have made certain breeds into showcases for anger that they are listed for homeowners to avoid and even banned in some cities. The dog breed itself has nothing to do with it. Those little Chihuahuas probably do more damage since people underestimate them.
I am one of those who believe that NO dog should EVER be on a list for insurance... EVER. Its not the dog its the people. I could get a dog NOT on that list and it could STILL be effectively dangerous (and more people are) so when we will learn the list is irrelevant? I know a few carriers who won't ask the breed at all anymore. You have a dog, you pay the premium. Breed just gives them an excuse to get more money. ANY dog bite will cost the same in a court of law. Its the damage that counts not the breed. What a big dog is capable of doing quickly a small dog will torture you. I'm not sure either is better than the other.
To be fair.. I am 'slightly' bias. I have no dog now. But as a whole my family is dog friendly and some are pitts while some are Chihuahua and mini weiner dogs. Our family has lost a pitt due to a child who harassed it. Still we are RESPONSIBLE with our dogs and would never let them cause fear in children. We find that owning pitts and other large dogs comes with a responsibility to treat them right and raise them right so we can education others on the misunderstanding of them.
Sorry I'll hop off my soap box now.
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Re: what can i do about neighbors dog?!
Posted by adeline27
I don't agree with "it's the owners, not the dog bit". Any breed can act out violently friends of ours who are the most loving and caring people for their pit dog who they raised since a baby pup attacked there two year olds face right in front of them. This pit who I have met with my kids was sweet and never gave me fear so I was so shocked to hear this happened. The pit was chewing on his toy and two feet a way the 2 year old was playing with his toys. The dog got up to walk into the other room abruptly stopped and then just attacked and that's it. The baby got 8 stitches they called the police, they came and then someone else to take the dog. I was shocked because this dog was raised with lots of love and care.
That's so sad! And one of my fears. Owners need to be responsible, and 99% of the time issues are directly related to how they manage their dog(s). But the bottom line is they are animals. That's why it's important to know what they are capable of. I know my dog is big and stronger than me. I respect that and she respects us. But again, that same incident could have happened with any larger, stronger breed dog. It didn't happen because the dog was a pitt. He/she might have been sick and the owner didn't realize something was wrong. There are various scenarios. Whatever it was, it was horribly unfortunate. Just glad their kid is ok.
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