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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by NervousNell
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And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
True and when I decided to have a child I did not think her education would fall on me while working full time too. I'm a horrible teacher. It's a talent, and I don’t have it.
I can help her with homework but to full on teach something from scratch, no way.
Right now it is what it is though and we're making the best of it and I'm fortunate that my daughter is a pretty good student and picks up fairly quickly.
Otherwise it would be a disaster.
Exactly as most parents are not teachers and I didn’t know that full time school was going to be something I signed up for when I planned my kids.
Parents have always helped, most at least but now we might have to work out of the house or at home, have multiple kids in different grades to help and try and get it all accomplish it all.
My kids are older but some days it is like pulling teeth to get one of them to do the work.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
I think Cuomo is doing the best he can right now. No one knows what is going to happen. No one.
And teachers are working more than ever now. They have had to learn a completely new way to teach in about a month. Try learning your job in a month.
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I had 6 weeks of training for my job so yes probably about a month and have had to work from home now so have to learn to work in a new way. Add in a husband, kids and barking dog all day. Being a maid as they see mom home and god forbid I look like I am not working they think I can do this or that. Then after I am tired from working and cleaning the house, I get to help my older child who finds it much harder to work from home. Who fights me everyday to do the work.
I would love to just have 1 week alone with no one around. While my mom is always on the go she has no problem staying home and I told her I would send my kids to her lol.
Rude to tell us that it is our responsibility to teach when you and everyone else knows that the majority of people have always sent their kids to school. If you didn’t have the students you have, if they were taught at home, then you would be out of a job. We appreciate teachers and all they do for our children.
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
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And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
The problem is while we all get it is hard on you, you are forgetting that we all have so much more on our plates right now when there are others in our house we have to deal with and make sure they are ok mentally and emotionally and fed and taught, etc.
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“The problem is while we all get it is hard on you, you are forgetting that we all have so much more on our plates right now when there are others in our house we have to deal with and make sure they are ok mentally and emotionally and fed and taught, etc.“
Are you trying to one up me? It’s hard on EVERYONE.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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“The problem is while we all get it is hard on you, you are forgetting that we all have so much more on our plates right now when there are others in our house we have to deal with and make sure they are ok mentally and emotionally and fed and taught, etc.“
Are you trying to one up me? It’s hard on EVERYONE.
Not trying to one up anyone but if I was alone or just me and hubby it would be much easier to go though this. We all do what we can right now. I know it is easier on me than many others as my kids are not younger and I feel for parents who have to entertain and teach all day while doing everything else. I also know my mom who is alone and I have to remind her easy she has it to only having to take care of herself.
We all know what we signed up for as parents and we do what we have to. We don’t need to feel worse than we do trying to keep to also teach a bunch of different subjects, none most of us didn’t get a degree in.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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I think Cuomo is doing the best he can right now. No one knows what is going to happen. No one.
And teachers are working more than ever now. They have had to learn a completely new way to teach in about a month. Try learning your job in a month.
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I know you don't mean this the way it came out, so I'm not picking on you with my response - that said -
the teachers in my district are not teaching. They are sending links to online games, and digital dittos and expecting the kids to complete them, and the only instructions are the ones that are written on a pre-printed page.
I'm all for helping my child with homework, but I am not a teacher. Yet, here I am at home while my husband works his full-time job, I work my full-time job, and my child wants me to teach her algebra. A subject, which was NOT introduced in her math class before the schools were closed, but is apparently in the math teacher's playbook, because she has introduced it with NO video instruction whatsoever. Just a ditto. Heck, the PE teacher and the band teacher have sent links to videos of things they want the kids to do, but the math teacher can't provide a YouTube link for algebra????
As for my responsibility to raise my child, I agree it is. It's to raise her to be kind, and to treat all people equally, and to be a good citizen, and learn to question the world around her while exploring everything it has to offer her. But, it is not my responsibility to teach her how to read, and do algebra, and dissect a pig - that is why I send her to school. That is what my tax dollars fund.
And I do agree that Cuomo is doing the best he can. I think his two week pause extensions were designed to give people hope that we would reopen soon, and that only after it became painfully obvious that schools could not formulate a plan to socially distance and keep students safe did he cave and close schools. I listened to his 12-step plan to reopen New York, and while I don't agree with all of it, I see the logic behind it and support it.
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
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Re: What is your suggestion
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Posted by klingklang77
I think Cuomo is doing the best he can right now. No one knows what is going to happen. No one.
And teachers are working more than ever now. They have had to learn a completely new way to teach in about a month. Try learning your job in a month.
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I know you don't mean this the way it came out, so I'm not picking on you with my response - that said -
the teachers in my district are not teaching. They are sending links to online games, and digital dittos and expecting the kids to complete them, and the only instructions are the ones that are written on a pre-printed page.
I'm all for helping my child with homework, but I am not a teacher. Yet, here I am at home while my husband works his full-time job, I work my full-time job, and my child wants me to teach her algebra. A subject, which was NOT introduced in her math class before the schools were closed, but is apparently in the math teacher's playbook, because she has introduced it with NO video instruction whatsoever. Just a ditto. Heck, the PE teacher and the band teacher have sent links to videos of things they want the kids to do, but the math teacher can't provide a YouTube link for algebra????
As for my responsibility to raise my child, I agree it is. It's to raise her to be kind, and to treat all people equally, and to be a good citizen, and learn to question the world around her while exploring everything it has to offer her. But, it is not my responsibility to teach her how to read, and do algebra, and dissect a pig - that is why I send her to school. That is what my tax dollars fund.
And I do agree that Cuomo is doing the best he can. I think his two week pause extensions were designed to give people hope that we would reopen soon, and that only after it became painfully obvious that schools could not formulate a plan to socially distance and keep students safe did he cave and close schools. I listened to his 12-step plan to reopen New York, and while I don't agree with all of it, I see the logic behind it and support it.
Thank you for understanding.
The thing is the teachers are not trained for this. Cut them some slack.
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
I’m all for cutting teachers some slack, but “isn’t your family your ultimate priority” is such a clueless comment. For some people working and keeping a paycheck means they can’t educate their child enough to keep them on grade level, especially children with special needs.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
Who said they weren't my ultimate priority. That is what I am saying. Please don't talk about things you know nothing about.
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by ap123
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Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
I’m all for cutting teachers some slack, but “isn’t your family your ultimate priority” is such a clueless comment. For some people working and keeping a paycheck means they can’t educate their child enough to keep them on grade level, especially children with special needs.
I don’t think it’s clueless at all. When push comes to shove, you do what you have to do. People lived through wars and they made it. I just find it a bit strange that people are complaining about their kids not going to school when there is a very serious situation going on. Yes, it takes a village, but the family is the one responsible for it.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
Who said they weren't my ultimate priority. That is what I am saying. Please don't talk about things you know nothing about.
Ah, there it is. I can’t talk about things I apparently know nothing about. Last I checked I am a member of society, too.
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Re: What is your suggestion
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Posted by ap123
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Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
I’m all for cutting teachers some slack, but “isn’t your family your ultimate priority” is such a clueless comment. For some people working and keeping a paycheck means they can’t educate their child enough to keep them on grade level, especially children with special needs.
I don’t think it’s clueless at all. When push comes to shove, you do what you have to do. People lived through wars and they made it. I just find it a bit strange that people are complaining about their kids not going to school when there is a very serious situation going on. Yes, it takes a village, but the family is the one responsible for it.
People went to school and went to work while there were wars going on, so I don't understand that point at all. People are not complaining that they are not going to school (mostly) but they are not getting an education. Two separate issues. Getting back to what the original point was of this discussion is that one one is blaming teachers but the union and the administration are not allowing them to teach the way they could be if they relaxed the rules a bit.
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| Posted 5/2/20 10:34 AM |
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ap123
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by ap123
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
I’m all for cutting teachers some slack, but “isn’t your family your ultimate priority” is such a clueless comment. For some people working and keeping a paycheck means they can’t educate their child enough to keep them on grade level, especially children with special needs.
I don’t think it’s clueless at all. When push comes to shove, you do what you have to do. People lived through wars and they made it. I just find it a bit strange that people are complaining about their kids not going to school when there is a very serious situation going on. Yes, it takes a village, but the family is the one responsible for it.
I think a little empathy can go a long way here. I don’t pretend to know what it’s like to have a child with special needs, I trust the moms saying that it’s a huge issue not getting the OT, PT, speech services they need. Maybe you should consider that for some this is more than an inconvenience, this is actually a major educational issue for some kids. I can teach my kid at home, it’s not preferred but it’s fine. But I can empathize with those who can’t.
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| Posted 5/2/20 10:35 AM |
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KarenK122
The Journey is the Destination
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
Who said they weren't my ultimate priority. That is what I am saying. Please don't talk about things you know nothing about.
Ah, there it is. I can’t talk about things I apparently know nothing about. Last I checked I am a member of society, too.
There what is. No one should talk about things they don't know about. You do not have children that are effected by not going to school or being taught. I don't talk about what your responsibilities are in your life because I don't live your life. I can gladly start doing that if you think that as part of society I have a right too.
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| Posted 5/2/20 10:38 AM |
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Naturalmama
Love my boys!!
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by ap123
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
I’m all for cutting teachers some slack, but “isn’t your family your ultimate priority” is such a clueless comment. For some people working and keeping a paycheck means they can’t educate their child enough to keep them on grade level, especially children with special needs.
I don’t think it’s clueless at all. When push comes to shove, you do what you have to do. People lived through wars and they made it. I just find it a bit strange that people are complaining about their kids not going to school when there is a very serious situation going on. Yes, it takes a village, but the family is the one responsible for it.
I do get where you are coming from, and to an extent, I agree with you. However, there are people, especially in NYC, who are unable to make their child's education a priority. They can't even guarantee their child gets dinner every night. Schools are literal safe havens for so many children. Not every child is safest at home. Will my children be fine? Most likely, yes. But my children are lucky. There are children who are not as fortunate.
This situation has really shown the difference in the haves and the have nots, and it is incredibly heartbreaking. Schools remain closed for an entire school year next year? That's fine, we have no say in that. But the unbelievable amount of children who will be severely affected by this, who will slip through the cracks, will be breathtaking. Schools are essential to a functioning society and economy.
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| Posted 5/2/20 10:41 AM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by Christine2
"Displaced rage"
No,, I have rage against asinine ideas to keep the economy, adults and children shuttered inside their homes for months on end.
From the beginning, I have said, the older and those with pre-existing conditions should shelter in place.
Now that we've ALL sheltered for 30 days, then yes, Phase I reopening needs to begin. YES, the numbers will increase, that is expected. Mitigation was never intended to ELIMINATE the damn virus, just lessen the numbers requiring immediate hospitalizations.
You need to reopen the economy now! Non essential businesses should open. Masks, social distancing as best possible should be implemented. Schools should reopen with smaller class sizes, elimination of assemblies, children stay in their classrooms for lunch, etc. Even in higher grades it may mean restructuring so the same students stay with the same "honors" classes.
So many things can be done. It is insane to continue on this way. How many parents actually think their children are learning anything? How many people think teleworking is as effective as going to work? There are so many solutions every industry can be taking if we THINK OUTSIDE THE DAMN BOX.
If I hear that saving even one life is worth it and having NO PLAN(!!!) makes sense I think my eyes will roll right off my head.
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Please tell me what are so many things? I'm trying to think of sustainable, long-term options.
If we all have to keep a 6' circumference around us at all times, of course.
All ears.
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| Posted 5/2/20 10:55 AM |
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klingklang77
kraftwerk!
Member since 7/06 11487 total posts
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by ap123
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by klingklang77
And no offense parents, I know it must suck to have to do extra work with your kids, but you made the decision to have them. It’s mainly your job to raise them. That is your ultimate responsibility.
I think this is a little rude because the parents are working from home and trying to do full curriculum with the kids. We are at home, during a crisis, trying to work. Half the time we don’t get to the school work until 4:30-5pm after a full day working. It’s not just doing extra work. Being a little frustrated with trying to home school while working full time is not the same is saying they don’t want to raise their children.
I’m not trying to be rude, so I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.
I’m not saying parents don’t want to raise their kids. However, at the end of the day they are your kids. We are all frustrated. I totally get that. It’s just life and we all make choices and have to deal with it.
Wow. I really can't even answer you without sounding like a nasty ***** but you are crossing a line that you shouldn't be.
It is my responsibility to raise my children. It is my responsibility to make sure they have the best life they can. By doing that I work VERY hard to advocate for their education because I know that I am not equipped to teach them correctly. That is what makes me a good mom, knowing what I can do and knowing what I need professionals for. My children get special education classes, OT, PT, Speech, Therapy, Social Skills, specialized reading, and many more things that I NEED trained people to do. If I was able to do all of those things then they wouldn't be in school to begin with. Their teachers are frustrated and I am frustrated because we both are failing my children, due to no fault of our own. My responsibility is to make sure my kids get the best they get.
So while I am behind the stay in place to make sure everyone is safe, it doesn't mean I cant be pissed about it.
First off, I never said you weren’t a good mom.
At the end of the day, they are your kids. It’s your job to take care of them, and that includes educating them if need be. Yes, you have to work, but isn’t your family the ultimate priority?
I’m all for cutting teachers some slack, but “isn’t your family your ultimate priority” is such a clueless comment. For some people working and keeping a paycheck means they can’t educate their child enough to keep them on grade level, especially children with special needs.
I don’t think it’s clueless at all. When push comes to shove, you do what you have to do. People lived through wars and they made it. I just find it a bit strange that people are complaining about their kids not going to school when there is a very serious situation going on. Yes, it takes a village, but the family is the one responsible for it.
I do get where you are coming from, and to an extent, I agree with you. However, there are people, especially in NYC, who are unable to make their child's education a priority. They can't even guarantee their child gets dinner every night. Schools are literal safe havens for so many children. Not every child is safest at home. Will my children be fine? Most likely, yes. But my children are lucky. There are children who are not as fortunate.
This situation has really shown the difference in the haves and the have nots, and it is incredibly heartbreaking. Schools remain closed for an entire school year next year? That's fine, we have no say in that. But the unbelievable amount of children who will be severely affected by this, who will slip through the cracks, will be breathtaking. Schools are essential to a functioning society and economy.
Yes, exactly. Thank god someone understands. Schools are essential to society.
But if I have to read how one wants to lower their taxes because there are no schools in session is just mind blowing. So yeah, pay lower taxes, and you will get NO education. Those handouts and videos are better than nothing at this point. Take what you can because this is an unusual circumstance. Be thankful that they are getting materials. They are going through them so quickly because they are doing it alone and no classroom management is happening, saving time in the process.
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| Posted 5/2/20 11:38 AM |
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Christine2
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by seaside
Teachers don't make nearly enough money. We appreciate the love, attention, and hard work that gas gone into our kids, especially since this started.
I actually think they make plenty of money. Many, especially on LI, make six figures. They work less than 10 months of the year, six hours/day (if they want to work more, it is on THEIR terms) with plenty of vacation time. They have a union fighting for each of them, and many have tenure. They do just fine. No sympathy here.
ETA: They get medical, dental, retirement benefits as well.
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Naturalmama
Love my boys!!
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What is your suggestion
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/experts-fail-to-find-a-single-case-of-children-passing-virus-to-adults-20200430-p54ohi.html?fbclid=IwAR0Y9LkJBLHdhvvlw5R_KAqKGSr_i9ezCfPHFAcbkVxzfERvSBcGGEqTkJA
found this interesting
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| Posted 5/2/20 2:58 PM |
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Mrs213
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by Christine2
Posted by seaside
Teachers don't make nearly enough money. We appreciate the love, attention, and hard work that gas gone into our kids, especially since this started.
I actually think they make plenty of money. Many, especially on LI, make six figures. They work less than 10 months of the year, six hours/day (if they want to work more, it is on THEIR terms) with plenty of vacation time. They have a union fighting for each of them, and many have tenure. They do just fine. No sympathy here.
ETA: They get medical, dental, retirement benefits as well.
They deserve it all if not more.
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| Posted 5/2/20 3:08 PM |
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valentinesbaby
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Member since 2/20 900 total posts
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Christine2
Posted by seaside
Teachers don't make nearly enough money. We appreciate the love, attention, and hard work that gas gone into our kids, especially since this started.
I actually think they make plenty of money. Many, especially on LI, make six figures. They work less than 10 months of the year, six hours/day (if they want to work more, it is on THEIR terms) with plenty of vacation time. They have a union fighting for each of them, and many have tenure. They do just fine. No sympathy here.
ETA: They get medical, dental, retirement benefits as well.
They deserve it all if not more.
This is usually a big debate as it is always assumed teachers don’t make a lot of money. In NYS they can and do make six figures and anything extra they do like coaching, clubs, etc. they get paid on top of that. I have seen some of the salaries of some teachers and it is crazy, IMO. I know many work very hard but the average person does not get the amount of time off a teacher does and the pay,
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Mrs213
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Re: What is your suggestion
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by Mrs213
Posted by Christine2
Posted by seaside
Teachers don't make nearly enough money. We appreciate the love, attention, and hard work that gas gone into our kids, especially since this started.
I actually think they make plenty of money. Many, especially on LI, make six figures. They work less than 10 months of the year, six hours/day (if they want to work more, it is on THEIR terms) with plenty of vacation time. They have a union fighting for each of them, and many have tenure. They do just fine. No sympathy here.
ETA: They get medical, dental, retirement benefits as well.
They deserve it all if not more.
This is usually a big debate as it is always assumed teachers don’t make a lot of money. In NYS they can and do make six figures and anything extra they do like coaching, clubs, etc. they get paid on top of that. I have seen some of the salaries of some teachers and it is crazy, IMO. I know many work very hard but the average person does not get the amount of time off a teacher does and the pay,
Well I know I couldn’t do it. You couldn’t pay me enough to deal with some of these parents let alone the kids. The sense of entitlement these days is just unreal. I know they do a lot of work off hours preparing lessons, grading etc. so it’s not just a 6/hr a day deal. They deserve every dime in my opinion and I think out of state teachers are paid grotesquely which is a sin if you ask me...
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