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What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
He has run his whole campaign on this idea of change...and filled his speeches with promises and hopes...but what changes do you think he is really going to make? Do people really think having him in office is going to change their lives?
I think he is a great speech writer and knows how to hit the right strings...but to be honest, I think he has given alot of people alot of false hopes and false ideas. I dont think he is a terrible person. I think he is an incredibly smart person and will help to turn around the economy, but I think the economy will turn around regardless of who is in office. I think alot of people didn't read between the lines, including last night in his acceptance speech...
People cry during his speeches and truely feel like their lives are going to change and go from bad to good...just wondering if I am missing something
I guess my question is...what are you expecting of him while in office? What changes are you expecting him to make while in office?
ETA: I just wanted to add that I do not dislike Obama and while I did vote for McCain it was a hard decision for me...one I didn't finalize until I stepped into the voting booth. There were things I liked and didn't like about both candidates but I had to choose which issues were the most important to me at the time which I am sure is how many vote.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
I think you bring up some great points and I agree about people having high hopes that are possibly very false ones.
I really would like to know, aside from him making "history" and people being thrilled about that, how do people actually think their daily lives will change b/c of him? I too would like to know concrete ways of how he will change America FOR the better.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by Goobster
I think you bring up some great points.
I really would like to know, aside from him making "history" and people being thrilled about that, how do people actually think their daily lives will change b/c of him? I too would like to know concrete ways of how he will change America FOR the better.
Thank you...I think you asked my question and made my point better than I did
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
the change i expect is higher taxes and most of the "promises" not happening.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by jellybean1420
I think alot of people didn't read between the lines, including last night in his acceptance speech...
People cry during his speeches and truely feel like their lives are going to change and go from bad to good...just wondering if I am missing something
I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
I agree, I don't understand why all these people are crying over him, crying and hugging. I just don't get it. How do they really expect their lives to change that it brings them to tears? I think it's very false hope to be honest. Politics is politics.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
The change has already happened. The world looks at us with a little more respect today. Hope was renewed. People are prouder.
I don't know what policies will be effected in the short term. But I know that history was made. I know that change CAN happen. I know that we can unite. I've seen it.
ETA: I think a message was sent and received. I really believe that both parties are going to work harder to achieve what is truly in the best interest of the country as a WHOLE.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
I think the first changes with be whatever Pelosi and the rest of the liberal dems want them to be.
On the plus side, just like preachers of religion or motivational speakers....giving people a reason to believe good things are coming can actually cause good things in the lives of those people. The law of attraction works that way. Lets say I'm down on my luck and I lost my job, have some health problems a few other awful things. I supported Pres-elect Obama, I've hoped he'd win & believed his promises of change making things better. Everyday I'm thinking & believing things are going to get better. Just by doing that I'm attracting better things into my life through the law of attraction. So I honestly feel that the positive mindset he got people started on will positively effect their lives. If he can continue to inspire people with his words that will be a good thing.
But as a whole, for our country I don't have great expectations.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by KellyFG
I think the first changes with be whatever Pelosi and the rest of the liberal dems want them to be.
On the plus side, just like preachers of religion or motivational speakers....giving people a reason to believe good things are coming can actually cause good things in the lives of those people. The law of attraction works that way. Lets say I'm down on my luck and I lost my job, have some health problems a few other awful things. I supported Pres-elect Obama, I've hoped he'd win & believed his promises of change making things better. Everyday I'm thinking & believing things are going to get better. Just by doing that I'm attracting better things into my life through the law of attraction. So I honestly feel that the positive mindset he got people started on will positively effect their lives. If he can continue to inspire people with his words that will be a good thing.
But as a whole, for our country I don't have great expectations.
The only problem is when peopel's lives dont change that dramatically from day to day they will begin to dislike him, KWIM?
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by KellyFG
On the plus side, just like preachers of religion or motivational speakers....giving people a reason to believe good things are coming can actually cause good things in the lives of those people. The law of attraction works that way. Lets say I'm down on my luck and I lost my job, have some health problems a few other awful things. I supported Pres-elect Obama, I've hoped he'd win & believed his promises of change making things better. Everyday I'm thinking & believing things are going to get better. Just by doing that I'm attracting better things into my life through the law of attraction. So I honestly feel that the positive midset he got people started on will positively effect their lives. If he can continue to inspire people with his words that will be a good thing.
But as a whole, for our country I don't have great expectations.
I agree about this aspect. However, as things settle down and the honeymoon phase wears off, reality will set in that each ONE of us is responsible for our lives, regardless of who is president.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by rojerono
The change has already happened. The world looks at us with a little more respect today. Hope was renewed. People are prouder.
I don't know what policies will be effected in the short term. But I know that history was made. I know that change CAN happen. I know that we can unite. I've seen it.
well said. No one knows for sure what will happen in the next 4 years. but I for one, am THRILLED To be an American today
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by jellybean1420
The only problem is when peopel's lives dont change that dramatically from day to day they will begin to dislike him, KWIM?
Exactly. That day will likely come when the honeymoon phase wears off. I do hope I am pleasantly surprised though, and he will change the world as we know it into better place as well.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by jellybean1420
I guess my question is...what are you expecting of him while in office? What changes are you expecting him to make while in office?
For me, I think every president wants the same thing - Republican or Democratic...and the ultimate goal is the same - low unemployment, higher wages, increased household spending.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by jellybean1420
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
Right, but according to that, if he does implement this, that is exactly why most of the people who voted for him did. They believe they are going to benefit, not suffer, due to his policy. But what they don't realize is, if he does increase taxes on corporations, corporations can move to another country where they will be taxed at a lower rate. And then jobs here will be lost, which will affect EVERYONE. Taking from the wealthy will only trickle down to the nonwealthy eventually anyway.
Just like all these jobs we are losing to companies outsourcing in India. Job loss is certainly not good for our economy at all and I think that's a very big risk if he starts taxing the wealthy and corporations at a higher rate.
I truly am hoping for positive change and am eager to see how it plays out.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by rojerono
The change has already happened. The world looks at us with a little more respect today. Hope was renewed. People are prouder.
I don't know what policies will be effected in the short term. But I know that history was made. I know that change CAN happen. I know that we can unite. I've seen it.
ETA: I think a message was sent and received. I really believe that both parties are going to work harder to achieve what is truly in the best interest of the country as a WHOLE.
I agree with this. While I do agree with his stance on a majority of issues, I'm not sure his policies are always realistic. I think that's true with any politician. I think it's especially true of his timeline for pulling out of Iraq and to alleviate the country's dependency on oil/finding new sources of energy, etc. I dont' think he'll accomplish everything he sets out to because some of his plans are not realistically achievable within an 8 year time frame and because there are factors that will impede them - both those that we're aware of and those that are unseen at this time.
But I do think that he's got the right approach to dealing with people inside of and outside of America. And I really do believe that his sense of diplomacy, his sense of morality and his ideals are an invaluable asset. I think the "change" is the whole feel of the administration - one that listens as much as it talks.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by jellybean1420
I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
Well how else is going to work? He doesn't have a magic wand to just make things better. I think that was an EXCELLENT part of his speech where he said change is not going to come easy and it is going to take time!
Like the OPs have said, today is a HISTORIC day and sit back and enjoy this change first, the man isn't even in office yet to start claiming that his policies don't work!
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
The change is...
1. Tax cuts and the Making Work Pay tax credit.
2. Encouragement and benefits for small businesses.
3. Changing foreign trade policies to encourage and maintain a fair global economy.
4. His policies that will help Americans elmininate debt, become educated about the economy, where there money goes, ets.
5. His education policies and reforms in the education system, making college affordable, investing in the system. Providing adequate funding for schools.
6. His New Energy for America Plan
7. Cleaning up ethics in Washington
8. Accessible, affordable healthcare.
9. Increased homeland security. Providing for the military.
10. Ending the war in Iraq.
11. Protecting Social Security and eliminating taxes for seniors based on income. Lower RXs through Medicare for seniors. Strengthen Medicare.
These are things that will be changed, IMO, for the better, under Obama-Biden.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by jellybean1420
I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
From BarackObama.com:
Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s. Obama will ask the wealthiest 2% of families to give back a portion of the tax cuts they have received over the past eight years to ensure we are restoring fairness and returning to fiscal responsibility. But no family will pay higher tax rates than they would have paid in the 1990s. In fact, dividend rates would be 39 percent lower than what President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
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Posted by jellybean1420
I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
From BarackObama.com:
Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s. Obama will ask the wealthiest 2% of families to give back a portion of the tax cuts they have received over the past eight years to ensure we are restoring fairness and returning to fiscal responsibility. But no family will pay higher tax rates than they would have paid in the 1990s. In fact, dividend rates would be 39 percent lower than what President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he lowered the $250k cap to $200k
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
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Posted by jellybean1420
I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
From BarackObama.com:
Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s. Obama will ask the wealthiest 2% of families to give back a portion of the tax cuts they have received over the past eight years to ensure we are restoring fairness and returning to fiscal responsibility. But no family will pay higher tax rates than they would have paid in the 1990s. In fact, dividend rates would be 39 percent lower than what President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he lowered the $250k cap to $200k
I think the distinction is between singles and couples - it's 200K for single people and 250K for families
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by donegal419
the change i expect is higher taxes and most of the "promises" not happening.
I agree. I also expect a complete overhaul of our current health care system.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
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I didn't see his acceptance speech. What are you referring to about how people didn't read b/w the lines? What did he say that you feel had more meaning than people realize?
from the things he says about it being hard work and change isn't going to come easy and sharing and being united...and than with his new tax policy and wanting to increase taxes of the "rich" and give to the "poor"...it seems he is going to be taking from the hand of one to give to another. And all these changes he wants to make are going to cost $$$...it's not going to be free.
From BarackObama.com:
Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s. Obama will ask the wealthiest 2% of families to give back a portion of the tax cuts they have received over the past eight years to ensure we are restoring fairness and returning to fiscal responsibility. But no family will pay higher tax rates than they would have paid in the 1990s. In fact, dividend rates would be 39 percent lower than what President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he lowered the $250k cap to $200k
I think the distinction is between singles and couples - it's 200K for single people and 250K for families
Yes.
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by donegal419
the change i expect is higher taxes and most of the "promises" not happening.
i agree---not looking forward to my taxes rising since we make $$ they think is excessive---sorry, but living in nyc is expensive and I dont have much to give away
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by rojerono
The change has already happened. The world looks at us with a little more respect today. Hope was renewed. People are prouder.
I don't know what policies will be effected in the short term. But I know that history was made. I know that change CAN happen. I know that we can unite. I've seen it.
ETA: I think a message was sent and received. I really believe that both parties are going to work harder to achieve what is truly in the best interest of the country as a WHOLE.
Absolutely!!!!
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Re: What kind of "CHANGE" are you expecting Obama to make?
Posted by heathergirl
2. Encouragement and benefits for small businesses.
What are the benefits he is proposing for small business?
Not being snarky- I honestly don't know
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