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KarenK122
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What would you do if anything....


If you knew for a fact that someone was sending their child to your school district illegally would you tell? They live in a district about 15 minutes away and drive their kids to their grandparents house to take the bus to school because they do not want to utilize the district they are zoned for.

Posted 1/6/17 9:51 AM
 
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Mariabella
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Nothing I am a firm believer in MYOB.

Posted 1/6/17 9:52 AM
 

PhyllisNJoe
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Re: What would you do if anything....

I wouldn't do anything unless that student was an issue. Bully, violent, etc.

Posted 1/6/17 9:54 AM
 

Mill188
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Honestly - I would contact the district.

DH and I don't have children. We pay a tremendous amount of $$ in school taxes (which we don't utilize) and paid more for our house because it is in a certain school district. We don't get a break on our school taxes because we don't use the district. If they don't want to utilize their own SD, they can go to private school

Posted 1/6/17 9:57 AM
 

StaceyWill
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by Mariabella

Nothing I am a firm believer in MYOB.



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Posted 1/6/17 10:00 AM
 

WannaBeAMom11
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What would you do if anything....

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.

Posted 1/6/17 10:12 AM
 

luvbuffet
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Re: What would you do if anything....

MYOB

Posted 1/6/17 10:12 AM
 

Momma2015
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



Same. Not a thing.

Posted 1/6/17 10:22 AM
 

lululu
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.

Posted 1/6/17 10:23 AM
 

KarenK122
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What would you do if anything....

Thanks all. I have been MYOB and will probably continue to do so but it just irks me to no end because I moved from the district she is suppose to be in because of my current district special needs program was better for my child and am paying a hell of a lot more now than I was in my former house because it was the right thing to do. People that try to pull one over on the system bother me.

Posted 1/6/17 10:25 AM
 

stinger
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



The right thing for me in OP case is to MYOB.
However if its a systematic issue that i am aware of I wouldnt rat specific families out but I would bring up the issue to the school administration.

Posted 1/6/17 10:27 AM
 

Straightarrow
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Well, I live in the city, and it's different here, once you establish residence, you can keep your child in the school district.

I had a friend who lived with her mom, sent her kids to that school district, bought a house in the next district and continued to send her kids to the original district. She was ratted out and her kids were very promptly expelled from the original school (at 7&8). It was really hard on her, and them to an extent

I would mind my own business. I understand both sides of this, however, I don't want to be the reason for discord in anyone's family/household.

Posted 1/6/17 10:27 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



I agree.
Someone said it's not hurting anyone.
Yes, it is actually.
It's overcrowding the schools and actually hurting the kids who belong there fair and square.
Having said that I probably wouldn't say anything either because I really do believe in MYOB.
But it does hurt taxpayers and students in the school who are there legally in the long run.
It's not exactly a victim-less thing

Posted 1/6/17 10:33 AM
 

MerryChristmas
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



I agree.
Someone said it's not hurting anyone.
Yes, it is actually.
It's overcrowding the schools and actually hurting the kids who belong there fair and square.
Having said that I probably wouldn't say anything either because I really do believe in MYOB.
But it does hurt taxpayers and students in the school who are there legally in the long run.
It's not exactly a victim-less thing




But the grandparents live in the district and are paying school tax like the above poster who is childless. It's not like they are using a fake address or a household that already has kids in it using the schools. I would MYOB.

Posted 1/6/17 10:42 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by MerryChristmas

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



I agree.
Someone said it's not hurting anyone.
Yes, it is actually.
It's overcrowding the schools and actually hurting the kids who belong there fair and square.
Having said that I probably wouldn't say anything either because I really do believe in MYOB.
But it does hurt taxpayers and students in the school who are there legally in the long run.
It's not exactly a victim-less thing




But the grandparents live in the district and are paying school tax like the above poster who is childless. It's not like they are using a fake address or a household that already has kids in it using the schools. I would MYOB.



Yes and hence why I said I'd mind my own business. Chat Icon
I am just saying that in some cases it DOES hurt the others who are legally using the school.
Maybe not in this case, but in other cases.
But I know some people think they are above the rules. It's always like that.

Posted 1/6/17 10:58 AM
 

Straightarrow
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



How are they setting up fake residences? I am genuinely curious (not meant to be snarky)

I had to bring my lease, my license and a utility bill to register my child for school in the city of New York

Posted 1/6/17 11:01 AM
 

BargainMama
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What would you do if anything....

Eh, isn't the Trump giving us all "school of choice" soon? Chat Icon

Posted 1/6/17 11:02 AM
 

BargainMama
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by MerryChristmas

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



I agree.
Someone said it's not hurting anyone.
Yes, it is actually.
It's overcrowding the schools and actually hurting the kids who belong there fair and square.
Having said that I probably wouldn't say anything either because I really do believe in MYOB.
But it does hurt taxpayers and students in the school who are there legally in the long run.
It's not exactly a victim-less thing




But the grandparents live in the district and are paying school tax like the above poster who is childless. It's not like they are using a fake address or a household that already has kids in it using the schools. I would MYOB.



Good point....at first I was like hell no is that okay. BUT, you make a good point that the grandparents with zero kids in the district are paying the same school taxes as their neighbor who has 4 kids in the district (example). So in the end, it would annoy me a little, but I would MYOB.

Posted 1/6/17 11:04 AM
 

LuckyStar
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What would you do if anything....

In the case where they're showing up from Asia in droves I might say something. But using the grandparents' address I see zero issue with and think ratting would be beyond obnoxious. I actually think causing a fuss over someone illegally using a school district is worse than someone illegally using a school district.

Posted 1/6/17 11:07 AM
 

Mara1017
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What would you do if anything....

So I am actually an attorney for school districts. One of the things that I do is work with the schools on removing students that are not residents. Students attending schools that they are not residents in do effect the residents. Their education costs money and if the District spends money on them there is less for the real residents. In addition, if the DIstrict has to do an investigation to remove them it is very costly since surveillance is needed and that is not cheap.

Some of the people above also said not unless they are a bully, gang member, etc. Just remember just because they are no problem one minute does not mean they will not become a problem. It is not very easy to get rid of them even if they are a gang member.

Posted 1/6/17 11:07 AM
 

Mara1017
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Grandparents are paying taxes and the people who actually live in the house would be entitled to go to school there. Not a relative using their address.

Paying school taxes is part of what you have to do to own a home. Some people will never use the schools because they do not have children and others will send their children to private school. Even for people that have children most people will be in the house after the children graduate and you still pay school taxes. That is part of home ownership.

Message edited 1/6/2017 11:17:03 AM.

Posted 1/6/17 11:15 AM
 

Katareen
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What would you do if anything....

I would absolutely report them. My sister graduated third in her class, and missed out on being the Salutatorian because the girl who graduated second in their class was attending the district illegally. She was devastated.
This girl actually lived in a better district but used her grandparents address to go to a slightly lesser district and get a better ranking. Well it worked, and only hurt people who were legally attending the district.

So while some people might think it's obnoxious to report them, I think it's even more obnoxious to actually do it. These kids might be better students, better athletes, better musicians, better drama students and will take the places in activities that legal students are entitled to earn.

Posted 1/6/17 11:23 AM
 

ap123
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Re: What would you do if anything....

I would call the district. When you live in a good district the quality of the schools keeps your home value high, class size is important. There are rules and people need to learn that they aren't an exception to the rule.

Posted 1/6/17 11:25 AM
 

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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by Mara1017

So I am actually an attorney for school districts. One of the things that I do is work with the schools on removing students that are not residents. Students attending schools that they are not residents in do effect the residents. Their education costs money and if the District spends money on them there is less for the real residents. In addition, if the DIstrict has to do an investigation to remove them it is very costly since surveillance is needed and that is not cheap.

Some of the people above also said not unless they are a bully, gang member, etc. Just remember just because they are no problem one minute does not mean they will not become a problem. It is not very easy to get rid of them even if they are a gang member.



I remember registering for a new school and they had me sign so much stuff. I was moving from another district. They even had something in there about how if they suspect you're falsely using an address and they suspect it,they will send a PI to literally follow you. And that it's costly and you'd be responsible for tons of fees or fines if you're caught.

I was doing the straight and narrow and doing everything legally but I was surprised at the lengths they go to (but I understand it).

I'm surprised people risk it, honestly.

Posted 1/6/17 11:26 AM
 

lululu
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Re: What would you do if anything....

Posted by Straightarrow

Posted by lululu

Posted by WannaBeAMom11

Myob. It's not hurting you and it's benefiting a child.



So this is so interesting that this topic is coming up because I went to register my daughter for K yesterday and had a long talk with the registrar about the problem we are having with children illegally attending schools in our district. There are many families abusing the better districts - they are even coming here from Asia, setting up fake residences and then having children take the LIRR from Queens to attend high school in my town. My tax dollars are thru the roof to support all of the students that are here illegally. So it is hurting me and my family. Because of this my view has changed and I would absolutely report anyone that was using the school district illegally. People need to abide by the rules.



How are they setting up fake residences? I am genuinely curious (not meant to be snarky)

I had to bring my lease, my license and a utility bill to register my child for school in the city of New York



I don't fully understand the system but it involves real estate brokers matching home buyers who are not sending children to the district to create fake leases for people to use the address. I am not exactly sure how they get away with it for so long but it's very hard for the district to turn the students away when a certain level of proof is given.

Posted 1/6/17 11:27 AM
 
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