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rojerono
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Eh.. whatever..
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
My friend is coming up with some ideas on how to "winterize" the protest -- I will post it when he puts it on his FB. . . I think it is an interesting way to get involved if you can't actually go down there and protest, if you believe in what they are fighting for.
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| Posted 10/6/11 7:53 AM |
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itsbabytime
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| Posted 10/6/11 10:19 AM |
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rojerono
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by itsbabytime
My comment was not meant to be anything but honest - I wasn't trying to put anyone down the way she actually did. I'm sure she didn't work in the capacity that she was referring to because then she would have never made a comment like that. And, FWIW, I worked in the industry as well. And, my secretary had no idea what my life was really like. She may have seen the perks but, she wasn't there when I left for the day or when I got there in the morning. In fact, I often left more than an entire work day later (for her that is). She had NO IDEA the blood, sweat and tears that went into my job. So, I believe for the average joe in Wall Street that is actually posting on these boards - lets be honest we are not talking about Jamie Dimon here - you are not correct either. I was just trying to correct the misconception that Janice enapsulted in her dismissive and uniformed commentary. And, to someone that lives the life I described it is downright nasty. But, I really don't care enough to continue to waste time trying to prove a point to people who are not part of this group and thus have no idea. I believe a lot of this anger directed at wall street employees comes from people that are jealous but, lets me honest, for the most part those people got where they did by their own hard work! It's the american dream baby - you want it - work for it! And, again, YES, I know several people that worked in wall street that are out of work now just like everyone else. Times are tough and THEY ALL worry about their jobs TOO! But - to put the blame solely there is just ridiculous IMO.
Speaking for nobody else but my OWN self here... I do not in anyway have any anger toward the majority of people who work their backsides off on Wall Street, on 5th Avenue, on Main Street, USA or from their own home office in Boise.
I get your point and I 100% AGREE WITH YOU that there are a LOT of people who work in finance who are just hard working people who do their best to provide for their families. The same way there are a LOT of people in just about every sector of the business world that do the same. You don't have to be 'part of the group' to get that. I don't think ANYONE ever said that every single person on Wall Street is a creep. That would be ridiculous. That's like saying every single teacher is a lazy lout who only wants summers off. It's just not true and nobody with half a brain would believe it.
And as for blame and finger pointing - I don't give a rat's fanny who is at fault for the mess we are in anymore - because the blame game doesn't work. We have corruption and greed in the government and in the finance capital of the world - and in the technology sector and in retail and just about everywhere.
What the protestors are doing that is RIGHT in my opinion is calling attention to the fact that our country is on the verge of something catastrophic. They might be disorganized, they might have some loopy idealistic desires, they might not even KNOW what half of them really want or need.. but they are starting to make people realize that the world is collapsing around us. That nearly every one of us is one step from the precipice.
I don't want to engage you. I'm sure you have better things to do. But KNOW that I don't think ANYONE is belittling your husband or people like him. I know I certainly am not.
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tara73
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Meh. Lots of people work hard at their jobs. Still doesn't make the system right. Boo frickety hoo, you work a lot on Wall St? Whoop de freakin do. You chose that career. Doctors work a lot too. So do day laborers picking strawberries.
And no one is blaming "just Wall St" or the people who work there. It's corporations, politicians, banking etc all being blamed.
Wall St is the face and symbol of the American financial system. Starting the protest there has gotten the attention of the media, corporations and the US public.
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
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| Posted 10/6/11 10:42 AM |
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BunnyWife
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by tarabelle99
Meh. Lots of people work hard at their jobs. Still doesn't make the system right. Boo frickety hoo, you work a lot on Wall St? Whoop de freakin do. You chose that career. Doctors work a lot too. So do day laborers picking strawberries.
And no one is blaming "just Wall St" or the people who work there. It's corporations, politicians, banking etc all being blamed.
Wall St is the face and symbol of the American financial system. Starting the protest there has gotten the attention of the media, corporations and the US public.
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
 
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| Posted 10/6/11 10:49 AM |
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JennP
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by tarabelle99
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
Thank you. Well said.
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| Posted 10/6/11 11:02 AM |
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rojerono
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by tarabelle99
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
I've made 700000 posts with 200000 words each and you summed it all up perfectly with this. Thank you.
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| Posted 10/6/11 11:18 AM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
I don't think anyone has ever denied that those that work on Wall Street put in hard work...
I think what people SHOULD know is how the big firms and the Goldmans of the world make their money.
Truth be told NO ONE knows how Goldman makes their money..
Is it beneficial to society? we have no idea...
But what we do know- is that the money keeps churning and the great majority of America is hurting.
Whether or not Wall Street Guy is deserving of the money earned I do not know... I know a lot of the profits earned on the Street when the housing market blew up were just not cool.
Here's something interesting from PBS on GoldmanHow Does Goldman Make Money?
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| Posted 10/6/11 11:23 AM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by tarabelle99
Meh. Lots of people work hard at their jobs. Still doesn't make the system right. Boo frickety hoo, you work a lot on Wall St? Whoop de freakin do. You chose that career. Doctors work a lot too. So do day laborers picking strawberries.
And no one is blaming "just Wall St" or the people who work there. It's corporations, politicians, banking etc all being blamed.
Wall St is the face and symbol of the American financial system. Starting the protest there has gotten the attention of the media, corporations and the US public.
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
I haven't posted on this thread, because I really am not informed enough to make a real contribution to the discussion. But from reading all the posts I don't understand why some posters are viewing these protests as a personal attack on the INDIVIDUALS to work on Wall St. We are all aware that the majority of people employed by these major corporations are working their butts off, getting laid off, taking pay cuts, etc., just like the rest of us. YOU are not "the enemy" and no one here thinks you are.
From what I can see, the desire for reform targets the major corporations and financial institutions that make up a system that doesn't work for us anymore. NOT the individual people who work hard every day for their modest salaries.
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| Posted 10/6/11 11:36 AM |
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mommy2Alex
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by tarabelle99
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
I am not opposed to change or reform. What frustrates me the most, is that the Tea Party gets scorned and labeled as racists for wanting to change the way Washington abuses our tax payer $$$ and wants to do something serious about our National Debt. Which is a huge problem for our economy. We need to reevaluate our government corruption as much if not more than the corporate corruption IMO. It is nice to say I want to see the Corporations pay their fair share but what happens when the Corporations leave and take their jobs elsewhere because they don't want to pay higher taxes. Then the middle class is even more screwed.
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| Posted 10/6/11 11:41 AM |
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rojerono
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by mommy2Alex
Posted by tarabelle99
Why are some of you so opposed to any type of change? Is the economy so good right now and things SO awesomely awesome that we can't have progress or learn from our mistakes?
I am not opposed to change or reform. What frustrates me the most, is that the Tea Party gets scorned and labeled as racists for wanting to change the way Washington abuses our tax payer $$$ and wants to do something serious about our National Debt. Which is a huge problem for our economy. We need to reevaluate our government corruption as much if not more than the corporate corruption IMO. It is nice to say I want to see the Corporations pay their fair share but what happens when the Corporations leave and take their jobs elsewhere because they don't want to pay higher taxes. Then the middle class is even more screwed.
The Tea Party has been done no favors by some of the people who advocate it. Mark Williams for example.
I believe government corruption needs to be addressed as well. I believe we absolutely need to re-evaluate some of the spending that happens domestically.
BUT.. we can't live in terror that these companies will leave and take their jobs with them. If they want to be American companies then they need to pay American taxes and create American jobs.
We are so afraid they will leave.. but can't you see they have already gone??
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| Posted 10/6/11 11:58 AM |
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by Pomegranate5
I haven't posted on this thread, because I really am not informed enough to make a real contribution to the discussion. But from reading all the posts I don't understand why some posters are viewing these protests as a personal attack on the INDIVIDUALS to work on Wall St. We are all aware that the majority of people employed by these major corporations are working their butts off, getting laid off, taking pay cuts, etc., just like the rest of us. YOU are not "the enemy" and no one here thinks you are.
From what I can see, the desire for reform targets the major corporations and financial institutions that make up a system that doesn't work for us anymore. NOT the individual people who work hard every day for their modest salaries.
Because they're harassing all of the workers who are going to work everyday. Thats why its viewed as a personal attack.
And because they're getting violent. Its not a peaceful protest.
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| Posted 10/6/11 12:02 PM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by KittyGags
Posted by Pomegranate5
I haven't posted on this thread, because I really am not informed enough to make a real contribution to the discussion. But from reading all the posts I don't understand why some posters are viewing these protests as a personal attack on the INDIVIDUALS to work on Wall St. We are all aware that the majority of people employed by these major corporations are working their butts off, getting laid off, taking pay cuts, etc., just like the rest of us. YOU are not "the enemy" and no one here thinks you are.
From what I can see, the desire for reform targets the major corporations and financial institutions that make up a system that doesn't work for us anymore. NOT the individual people who work hard every day for their modest salaries.
Because they're harassing all of the workers who are going to work everyday. Thats why its viewed as a personal attack.
And because they're getting violent. Its not a peaceful protest.
I'm sorry about that. I don't live or work in Manhattan, so I'm not familiar with how the protests are being run. And I don't agree with any violence or harrassment.
I guess I was specifically talking about the conversations on this particular thread - some posters are taking with other posters say as personal attacks on THEM individually, when it isn't the case (at least not from what I'm reading).
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| Posted 10/6/11 12:11 PM |
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tara73
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
You know, I don't think the Chicago Board of Trade is really helping Wall St with this stunt
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rojerono
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
I love this comment: You'd think the 1% could afford better signage...
cheap bastards
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emilylives
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
That's awful.
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| Posted 10/6/11 3:22 PM |
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Janice
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
 in 2011, we now refer to those gals at the desk up front as "administrative assistants"
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KCCL
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Who is occupying wall street? Not just your average Joe.
How much money does 1 person need?
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by KittyGags
Posted by Pomegranate5
I haven't posted on this thread, because I really am not informed enough to make a real contribution to the discussion. But from reading all the posts I don't understand why some posters are viewing these protests as a personal attack on the INDIVIDUALS to work on Wall St. We are all aware that the majority of people employed by these major corporations are working their butts off, getting laid off, taking pay cuts, etc., just like the rest of us. YOU are not "the enemy" and no one here thinks you are.
From what I can see, the desire for reform targets the major corporations and financial institutions that make up a system that doesn't work for us anymore. NOT the individual people who work hard every day for their modest salaries.
Because they're harassing all of the workers who are going to work everyday. Thats why its viewed as a personal attack.
And because they're getting violent. Its not a peaceful protest.
I can't help but respond to your claim that it's no longer a peaceful protest. This video is from the rally I was at yesterday and it is similar to what I observed all afternoon long. It gets really good at around .55 seconds ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id9M1st39oQ&feature=player_embedded
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| Posted 10/6/11 9:19 PM |
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Erica
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by mommy2Alex
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They all an't be like Buffet or Carnegie - they are a special form of star dust.
The pp poster was basically praising him as well. To me that is like the parent telling their kids not to drink and drive yet they drive around with the kids in the car after drinking.
I'm sorry, I was misunderstood. I was just trying to convey that we are all made if the same materials (stardust). Purely astrophysics, not metaphoric.
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| Posted 10/7/11 7:13 AM |
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Ophelia
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
I can't beleive the fact that corporations are effectively bilking BILLIONS of dollars from tax paying coffers is totally lost on people who don't like the protests.
I can't people that people are acting like we have ANYTHING against anyone that goes to work and pays their taxes.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUTYOU.
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| Posted 10/7/11 10:07 AM |
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maymama
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by sunnyflies
I'm interested too.
The protesters do seem unorganized, but their unifying theme is clear and it's one we all ought to be thinking more about: The unhealthy and growing divide between the haves and the have nots in this country. Those at the top - just 1% of the population - hold most of the wealth in America. That steep divide is negatively impacting our country, and will negatively affect our children's future if it isn't addressed.
It isn't only about the serious mortgage and banking problems of the past few years, though many of us on this forum experience the effects of those when we buy, sell, refinance or are foreclosed on. It's also the questionable practices by many other companies being traded on Wall Street and their growing disconnect from the real world.
For example, consider the Verizon strike in August. Just FIVE of Verizon's top executives were paid $258 million, which is far beyond their worth by any stretch of the imagination, yet ordinary Verizon workers were told it was suddenly necessary for them to pay $6000 of their hard earned salaries into health care if they wanted to keep it. You bet those workers were mad. Imagine if you were told YOUR income was about to drop $6000 when you knew five fat cats at the top were happily giving themselves an average of $50 million each? (I don't work for Verizon.)
No other country pays such humongous amounts to its top executives as many American executives get paid. It's crazy.
Multiply that by the thousands of companies represented on the ticker in the stock exchange and it's easy to understand why people are gathering to protest Wall Street's excesses and to call for more corporate regulation. Who knows, maybe it will eventually force Washington into doing something. It's certainly beginning to gather attention.
If you think you are getting screwed find another job.
Most of us in the real world contribute towards our benefits.
i understand both sides but as someone who has already paid $9,000 into medical this year and we have just entered Q4, I dont want to hear it. Nothing in life is fair. These people HAVE jobs. What were they paying for benefits before they were told they would have to pay 6k .... i believe it was next to nothing?!
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KCCL
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
link fixed, sorry.
Watch and learn kiddies.
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| Posted 10/7/11 5:22 PM |
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rojerono
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Re: Why are there no posts on anything going on in Wall Street?
That's a wikipedia entry for dry cleaning? What am I missing?
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