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GioiaMia
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by Tilde
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by Tilde
i think we can all agree that if we were in this situation we would be annoyed by it and we should be allowed to vent on here without having to get a full evaluation of the child before doing so 
Forgive me, but doesn't the title line ask for opinions?
touche! LOL i just saw this getting ugly fast 
But GIRL you KNOW what opinions are like.....
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KateDevine
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by KevinNKristin8-15-08
I would have been extremely annoyed..especially given the fact that its a restaurant! most people want to eat in peace and I know when I'm out to dinner I like a nice quiet romantic restaurant. So this would drive me nuts. In my opinion the mother should have taken the kid to the bathroom or outside or something until he stopped crying
 Um, the OP was out to lunch with her Grandmother, somehow I don't think she was at a "nice, quiet, romantic restaurant"
Apples and oranges
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| Posted 4/16/09 9:51 PM |
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PennyCat
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by Palebride
Posted by Tilde
i think we can all agree that if we were in this situation we would be annoyed by it and we should be allowed to vent on here without having to get a full evaluation of the child before doing so
Unfortunately, I don't agree with that. I don't think I would be annoyed in that situation, I would be sympathetic with the parents dealing with the nasty stares and comments from others.
I think that people are allowed to vent about things that bother them, but I also think that they have to be prepared for people to have opinions that are different, and maybe even a different viewpoint.
First of all, everyone is ASSUMING that this kid had some sort of issue!!!
For some background info, I happen to be a special education teacher and have worked closely with kids of all abilities. I'm not here to claim that I'm more knowledgeable than ANYONE here but I do have a background in that area.
From what I could tell, and to be brutally honest here, the kid was typically developed but happened to be a BRAT!
That being said, if he did have a disability it would be more understandable. However, disability or not, when kids scream like that, they are trying to communicate something. Rather than sit their and ignoring the kid for 20 minutes while everyone stared, there should have been some action plan to help rectify the situation.
As far as I was concerned, I was out at a restaurant that I was PAYING to eat at, and whether it's a 5 star place or a typical family restaurant, I should be able to eat with little distractions. Sure with some places it comes with the atmosphere, and I have seen kids run up and down aisles and dealt with it- but this was unreal! 
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| Posted 4/16/09 9:54 PM |
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Palebride
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by PennyCat
Posted by Palebride
Posted by Tilde
i think we can all agree that if we were in this situation we would be annoyed by it and we should be allowed to vent on here without having to get a full evaluation of the child before doing so
Unfortunately, I don't agree with that. I don't think I would be annoyed in that situation, I would be sympathetic with the parents dealing with the nasty stares and comments from others.
I think that people are allowed to vent about things that bother them, but I also think that they have to be prepared for people to have opinions that are different, and maybe even a different viewpoint.
First of all, everyone is ASSUMING that this kid had some sort of issue!!!
For some background info, I happen to be a special education teacher and have worked closely with kids of all abilities. I'm not here to claim that I'm more knowledgeable than ANYONE here but I do have a background in that area.
From what I could tell, and to be brutally honest here, the kid was typically developed but happened to be a BRAT!
That being said, if he did have a disability it would be more understandable. However, disability or not, when kids scream like that, they are trying to communicate something. Rather than sit their and ignoring the kid for 20 minutes while everyone stared, there should have been some action plan to help rectify the situation.
As far as I was concerned, I was out at a restaurant that I was PAYING to eat at, and whether it's a 5 star place or a typical family restaurant, I should be able to eat with little distractions. Sure with some places it comes with the atmosphere, and I have seen kids run up and down aisles and dealt with it- but this was unreal!
So when you said you wanted opinions...you only wanted those that agreed with you? Because I am offering a different viewpoint, to maybe get you to see the other side of the story (my opinion), and your response seems rather angry.
And for what it's worth - I didn't say that I thought that the kid had any sort of issue. He could very well just be a brat. Sometimes, the only way to deal with bratty behavior is to ignore it.
I just know, from my perspective as a parent, that you can't control your child all of the time. And I hate that whenever I'm out in public I'm being judged for my parenting, whether it's good or bad, without anyone knowing my situation. So this hits close to home for me
And I have to repeat....please don't assume a child's age simply by the way they look.
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| Posted 4/16/09 10:07 PM |
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PennyCat
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by Palebride
Posted by PennyCat
Posted by Palebride
Posted by Tilde
i think we can all agree that if we were in this situation we would be annoyed by it and we should be allowed to vent on here without having to get a full evaluation of the child before doing so
Unfortunately, I don't agree with that. I don't think I would be annoyed in that situation, I would be sympathetic with the parents dealing with the nasty stares and comments from others.
I think that people are allowed to vent about things that bother them, but I also think that they have to be prepared for people to have opinions that are different, and maybe even a different viewpoint.
First of all, everyone is ASSUMING that this kid had some sort of issue!!!
For some background info, I happen to be a special education teacher and have worked closely with kids of all abilities. I'm not here to claim that I'm more knowledgeable than ANYONE here but I do have a background in that area.
From what I could tell, and to be brutally honest here, the kid was typically developed but happened to be a BRAT!
That being said, if he did have a disability it would be more understandable. However, disability or not, when kids scream like that, they are trying to communicate something. Rather than sit their and ignoring the kid for 20 minutes while everyone stared, there should have been some action plan to help rectify the situation.
As far as I was concerned, I was out at a restaurant that I was PAYING to eat at, and whether it's a 5 star place or a typical family restaurant, I should be able to eat with little distractions. Sure with some places it comes with the atmosphere, and I have seen kids run up and down aisles and dealt with it- but this was unreal!
So when you said you wanted opinions...you only wanted those that agreed with you? Because I am offering a different viewpoint, to maybe get you to see the other side of the story (my opinion), and your response seems rather angry.
And for what it's worth - I didn't say that I thought that the kid had any sort of issue. He could very well just be a brat. Sometimes, the only way to deal with bratty behavior is to ignore it.
I just know, from my perspective as a parent, that you can't control your child all of the time. And I hate that whenever I'm out in public I'm being judged for my parenting, whether it's good or bad, without anyone knowing my situation. So this hits close to home for me
And I have to repeat....please don't assume a child's age simply by the way they look.
No, I wasn't just asking for people to agree with me, and I wasn't angry in my response. I was asking what other people thought of the situation and suggesting that people shouldn't make assumptions that this kid had issues. I work closely with students who have mental retardation and autism, and from what I could tell he was fine. But, that was never the issue at hand.
I don't post on LIF boards to cause drama. That's just not my style. I simply post on here to meet new and interesting people and talk about random interesting things that people post about.
If I wanted drama, I could easily get it IRL at the teacher's lounge at my school. 
If that's how this thread is going to end up, I'll request to have it removed- simple as that.
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| Posted 4/16/09 10:59 PM |
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Lizzie217
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
I think in that situation the parent should have taken the child the outside. Screaming for 20 minutes is extreme. I do not get bothered by kids typically, I mean they are kids they will fuss or throw a tantrum, but to scream at the topof their lungs for 20 minutes is excessive IMO
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| Posted 4/16/09 11:11 PM |
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kimbalina
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by VickiRG510
Seriously all my mom had to do wa slook at us & we knew we better calm it. Yes at 5. I could better understand if it was a baby. But even then the mother should have taken the child outside or into the bathroom & dealt with the situation. I feel like ignoring the problem is creating a bigger one. Back in the day most people didnt ignore their kids. Good or bad!
I totally agree with you!!! One look and I knew better. I would have toys stripped out of my room and would be sitting in there for punishment. Or I might have gotten a smack on my butt!
Either way, I grew up knowing how to act, either at my own home table, someone elses or in public. I am embarassed by some of these people and what they let the kids do in public places.. YES kids should have fun and learn, but not at the expense of ruining my dinner, nail/hair appointment, day or what ever else!
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| Posted 4/17/09 7:21 AM |
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MrsG123
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
i think for the most part - whatever our opinions happen to be, our group of girls has always been adult enough to speak our voice, understand/keep the drama low, and just agree to disagree if it happens to be the case..we respect each others opinions w/out reading far into a freakin' post & pulling out the nitty gritty... all us ladies have respect for each other whether we agree w/each other or not.. sometimes things just come across differently in writing - we all know that.. this thread was just simply a vent.. i'm sure when we all have kids one day we'll understand and discipline them how we see fit
isn't this board for the NEWLYWEDS anyway??
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| Posted 4/17/09 9:10 AM |
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Cheeks24
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by GoldenRod
You can't assume that the screaming is because of bad parenting. The child may have a physiological, psychological, or mental handicap.
The woman said, "They should understand, he's only a kid," so it's clear it wasn't the case of what you mentioned.
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| Posted 4/17/09 9:56 AM |
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Cheeks24
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
To answer your original question, I feel that no matter where you are in public, you can take your child somewhere so they can calm down. There is no need to disrupt everyone around you whether it's chucky cheese or a nice restaurant. It's common courtesy.
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| Posted 4/17/09 10:01 AM |
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MrsG123
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by Mici C
To answer your original question, I feel that no matter where you are in public, you can take your child somewhere so they can calm down. There is no need to disrupt everyone around you whether it's chucky cheese or a nice restaurant. It's common courtesy.
i think this is ALL that was meant by every single poster. simple as that. 
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| Posted 4/17/09 10:05 AM |
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MrsFab
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by Mici C
To answer your original question, I feel that no matter where you are in public, you can take your child somewhere so they can calm down. There is no need to disrupt everyone around you whether it's chucky cheese or a nice restaurant. It's common courtesy.
perfectly stated Michelle!
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| Posted 4/17/09 10:13 AM |
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PennyCat
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by MrsG123
Posted by Mici C
To answer your original question, I feel that no matter where you are in public, you can take your child somewhere so they can calm down. There is no need to disrupt everyone around you whether it's chucky cheese or a nice restaurant. It's common courtesy.
i think this is ALL that was meant by every single poster. simple as that.
YES! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! 
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| Posted 4/17/09 10:24 AM |
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RockysGirl
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by Mici C
To answer your original question, I feel that no matter where you are in public, you can take your child somewhere so they can calm down. There is no need to disrupt everyone around you whether it's chucky cheese or a nice restaurant. It's common courtesy.
yup - exactly what i was trying to say, I think my words jumbled tho. lol. If a child's already screaming, don't take them into a restaurant. If they start screaming only after being seated, take them out of the setting and either calm them down or leave. Simple as that
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| Posted 4/17/09 11:34 AM |
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HeathKernandez
Our Ron is an awesome Ron
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by MrsG123
isn't this board for the NEWLYWEDS anyway??
weren't you married in '06?
[runs out of the room]
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MrsG123
LIF Toddler
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by MrsG123
isn't this board for the NEWLYWEDS anyway??
weren't you married in '06?
[runs out of the room]
ALMOST '07  (better than '04!)
and hey - no babies yet - still young - still happy - still FEELING like a newlywed..so i'm milking my time for all it's worth  besides..i'm only married a little over 2years..according to the "newlywed game" i'm a nw untill the 3year mark. 
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MrsG123
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by MrsG123
isn't this board for the NEWLYWEDS anyway??
weren't you married in '06?
[runs out of the room]
btw - MISSED U B*TCH!
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| Posted 4/17/09 2:22 PM |
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GinaR
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
I would have been annoyed too. yes the kid may have been upset or something, but why not bring them to the bathroom or outside till they calm down? No need to ruin the atmosphere for everyone else.
The other day Dh, his parents, and his nephews went to Nathans to have lunch. Okay this is a place great for kids. but a woman was leting her kids run around all over and they kept bumping into people. The mother just laughed at them. And one then ran smack into Dhs father and spilled their entire tray of food and drinks. the mother didn't do anything and his parents had to pay for all their food twice to replace it. People need to teach their children how to behave properly no matter what sort of place they are at. What if he had been carrying hot coffee? it would have burned her child. Would she have cared then?
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| Posted 4/17/09 2:55 PM |
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Nik211
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
5-10 minutes of crying/yelling/fussing - ok i'll try and ignore it b/c i know that sometimes its best to ignore a kid that is acting up - im a big believer in that actually....
but 20 minutes - that is crossing the line....its rude, and just b/c you have to suffer doesnt mean everyone else in earshot should especially at a restaurant - whether its applebees, mcdonalds, or 5 star top notch restaurant....i dont care if im eating with my grandma, my husband, my friend - its still annoying to hear a kid scream and carry on...
at our rehearsal dinner our nephew was carrying on and even he was annoying DH and I AND he was removed until he stopped
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| Posted 4/17/09 3:13 PM |
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HeathKernandez
Our Ron is an awesome Ron
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Re: Wondering others' opinions on this .....
Posted by MrsG123
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by MrsG123
isn't this board for the NEWLYWEDS anyway??
weren't you married in '06?
[runs out of the room]
btw - MISSED U B*TCH!
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