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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
I doubt it is true. Thatwould have been all over the news by now, esp Newsday's website.
Hopefully it's not true but thanks for the heads up.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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I doubt it is true. Thatwould have been all over the news by now, esp Newsday's website.
Hopefully it's not true but thanks for the heads up.
I agree.
Im sure even if the mall wanted to keep it quiet they couldn't
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
That is what I thought but I just thought I would share anyway. I also called the news to find out if it was true and they said they will look into it.
It scared me enough though true or not
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Oh it's definetly scary. Thats why you need to keep your eye on little ones at all times!!!
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
I dont have kids, but it drives me NUTS when parnts are walking through the mall with thier kids running ahead of them and running in and out of stores and all over the place. And the parents are just talking and having a grand old time NOT watching thier kids. God forbid anything. It makes me sick
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Very scary, but there is no way the mall could keep it quiet. Police reports are p ublic records - the news would be all over this... and I'd hope the MOTHER would be all over the NEWS posting pictures of her kids trying to get them back.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Posted by luckysmom
I dont have kids, but it drives me NUTS when parnts are walking through the mall with thier kids running ahead of them and running in and out of stores and all over the place. And the parents are just talking and having a grand old time NOT watching thier kids. God forbid anything. It makes me sick
well what do you suggest? I don't know if you're a parent, but its very hard to completely control your children in that kind of a setting unless they are in a stroller. Now, I'm sure there are parents who do just ignore their kids, but I think that most are just trying to balance giving thier kids a little freedom and being a good parent.
I have to say, before I had kids I was 100% against those "leash" type things that parents use on thier children. Now, as a parent, I get it. I just think its easy to judge until you are in that person's shoes.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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I dont have kids, but it drives me NUTS when parnts are walking through the mall with thier kids running ahead of them and running in and out of stores and all over the place. And the parents are just talking and having a grand old time NOT watching thier kids. God forbid anything. It makes me sick
well what do you suggest? I don't know if you're a parent, but its very hard to completely control your children in that kind of a setting unless they are in a stroller. Now, I'm sure there are parents who do just ignore their kids, but I think that most are just trying to balance giving thier kids a little freedom and being a good parent.
I have to say, before I had kids I was 100% against those "leash" type things that parents use on thier children. Now, as a parent, I get it. I just think its easy to judge until you are in that person's shoes.
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Posted by luckysmom
I dont have kids, but it drives me NUTS when parnts are walking through the mall with thier kids running ahead of them and running in and out of stores and all over the place. And the parents are just talking and having a grand old time NOT watching thier kids. God forbid anything. It makes me sick
well what do you suggest? I don't know if you're a parent, but its very hard to completely control your children in that kind of a setting unless they are in a stroller. Now, I'm sure there are parents who do just ignore their kids, but I think that most are just trying to balance giving thier kids a little freedom and being a good parent.
I have to say, before I had kids I was 100% against those "leash" type things that parents use on thier children. Now, as a parent, I get it. I just think its easy to judge until you are in that person's shoes.
Why can't they be in a stroller? Why can't the parent hold their hand?
I don't have children (not by choice)and honestly don't know and am asking a question.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
ETA: I guess I should explain where I am coming from. I was in the mall last weekend. It wasn't very crowded. Now my daughter loves to run. She hates to be in her stroller and almost never lets me hold her hand. Running free makes her so happy. So I let her run and I was right behind her by a few steps. I was by myself and totally focusing on her.
I just feel that parents get blamed for so much. We get dirty looks if we use those leash things, but we "make people sick" if we let kids run around.
I didn't mean to start drama and I am certainly not defending people who really ignore their kids or don't pay attention to them. But sometimes, its hard being a parent and I think its very easy for everyone else to criticize.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Posted by luckysmom
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
I DO. I have also seen parents on their phone not giving a crap. Or parents in the supermarket hanging out of the cart about to fall out while they are looking at something.
I was in Target once and this little girl STOOD up in the seat of the cart I ran over and caught her before she fell out.. Gave the mother the nastiest look as she looked at me like I had 6 heads wondering why I was touching her kid. She was to busy looking at curtains or something.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
I just checked and there are no active Amber Alerts in New York State. There are aslo no reports of kids taken this entire week in New York.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
I know that kids are a handful but I see so many parents not even caring about where their kids are.
ETA I was at the beach once and watched life guards save a kid who was close to drowning. I knew who the kids was because I just happened to be sitting near them all day long. The parents had no idea he was even gone. When I went back I said to them "you know your son almost drown" and they looked at me like yeah and
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
I have to say personally, as the mother of a child who doesn't like to be in his stroller all the time, it may look to YOU like I am letting him run all over the place and I don't know where he is...but you bet your bottom dollar I know exactly what he is doing, exactly where he is and I could be all over that kid in seconds. Sometimes letting my kid run around the store, or walk in front of me at the mall is a much better option than having him SCREAMING and SHOUTING and having the SCREAMING ABDABS (capitalized for effect.)
I always know where my child is. Always.
The point is that although you might not think these parents are watching your kids...that probably isn't the case.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Posted by luckysmom
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
ETA: I guess I should explain where I am coming from. I was in the mall last weekend. It wasn't very crowded. Now my daughter loves to run. She hates to be in her stroller and almost never lets me hold her hand. Running free makes her so happy. So I let her run and I was right behind her by a few steps. I was by myself and totally focusing on her.
I just feel that parents get blamed for so much. We get dirty looks if we use those leash things, but we "make people sick" if we let kids run around.
I didn't mean to start drama and I am certainly not defending people who really ignore their kids or don't pay attention to them. But sometimes, its hard being a parent and I think its very easy for everyone else to criticize.
But honestly I feel (and this JMO) that sometimes you need to tell your kids NO
It's just not safe.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Posted by luckysmom
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
I DO. I have also seen parents on their phone not giving a crap. Or parents in the supermarket hanging out of the cart about to fall out while they are looking at something.
I was in Target once and this little girl STOOD up in the seat of the cart I ran over and caught her before she fell out.. Gave the mother the nastiest look as she looked at me like I had 6 heads wondering why I was touching her kid. She was to busy looking at curtains or something.
I see this in the bayshore mall all the time. Once i was at Kohl's and it was raining out. This woman was by herself, She LEFT HER CHILD in the stroller in the lobby area between the two sets of doors to go get the car. Granted it was raining but it only takes 1 second. I don;t have kids and i don't competely know what it's like to go shopping with kids, but when i am with my neices or my friends kids, my eyes are glued to them in the stores.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Why can't they be in a stroller? Why can't the parent hold their hand?
I don't have children (not by choice)and honestly don't know and am asking a question.
Some kids just have more "energy" than others - my daughter will not sit in her stroller. She will have a tantrum to the nine if I strap her in, and even when I DO strap her in, she contorts her body until she slips out of the stroller. She will NOT allow me to hold her hand.
I have one of two choices - (1) NEVER go out with her, or (2) accept that she's higher energy than most, and take her out with me, BUT, focus all my attention on her so that she's never out of my eyesight.
I'm all for protecting our kids, but I'm not for taking anything to any kind of extreme. Kids are kids - it's good, and it's healthy to allow them to walk/run on their own, as opposed to strapping them into something for fear of God that someone will snatch them in every public place. As long as you temper that freedom with protective eyes, and guidance, I think it's ok.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Posted by luckysmom
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
ETA: I guess I should explain where I am coming from. I was in the mall last weekend. It wasn't very crowded. Now my daughter loves to run. She hates to be in her stroller and almost never lets me hold her hand. Running free makes her so happy. So I let her run and I was right behind her by a few steps. I was by myself and totally focusing on her.
I just feel that parents get blamed for so much. We get dirty looks if we use those leash things, but we "make people sick" if we let kids run around.
I didn't mean to start drama and I am certainly not defending people who really ignore their kids or don't pay attention to them. But sometimes, its hard being a parent and I think its very easy for everyone else to criticize.
But honestly I feel (and this JMO) that sometimes you need to tell your kids NO
It's just not safe.
True. And at the same time, sometimes you need to LET your children be children and allow them some independence and freedom. It doesn't mean you should ignore them - like Racheee, I let Alex walk with me in the mall. It may appear like she's walking/running like a little rascal out of control, but I assure you, I am in control at all moments, and know exactly where she is at all moments.
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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Posted by june262004
Posted by Shelly
Posted by luckysmom
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
ETA: I guess I should explain where I am coming from. I was in the mall last weekend. It wasn't very crowded. Now my daughter loves to run. She hates to be in her stroller and almost never lets me hold her hand. Running free makes her so happy. So I let her run and I was right behind her by a few steps. I was by myself and totally focusing on her.
I just feel that parents get blamed for so much. We get dirty looks if we use those leash things, but we "make people sick" if we let kids run around.
I didn't mean to start drama and I am certainly not defending people who really ignore their kids or don't pay attention to them. But sometimes, its hard being a parent and I think its very easy for everyone else to criticize.
But honestly I feel (and this JMO) that sometimes you need to tell your kids NO
It's just not safe.
True. And at the same time, sometimes you need to LET your children be children and allow them some independence and freedom. It doesn't mean you should ignore them - like Racheee, I let Alex walk with me in the mall. It may appear like she's walking/running like a little rascal out of control, but I assure you, I am in control at all moments, and know exactly where she is at all moments.
I guess.. I just see like the backyard as being a place for them to run and get rid of their energy. Or a playground. But the Mall?
HECK im gonna say it. When Im in a store with my shopping cart and some kid goes running by me playing hide and seek in front of my cart it ANNOYS ME!
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Posted by june262004
But honestly I feel (and this JMO) that sometimes you need to tell your kids NO
It's just not safe.
True. And at the same time, sometimes you need to LET your children be children and allow them some independence and freedom. It doesn't mean you should ignore them - like Racheee, I let Alex walk with me in the mall. It may appear like she's walking/running like a little rascal out of control, but I assure you, I am in control at all moments, and know exactly where she is at all moments.
I guess.. I just see like the backyard as being a place for them to run and get rid of their energy. Or a playground. But the Mall?
HECK im gonna say it. When Im in a store with my shopping cart and some kid goes running by me playing hide and seek in front of my cart it ANNOYS ME!
Well, what about winter? A rainy day? Sure, playing outside is ideal for getting out their energy, but let me tell you, my daughter's energy doesn't stop - E.V.E.R. Even if I let her play outside for 4 hours, she would still have enough energy to wreak havoc in the mall. And, while I tend to lean on the overprotective side, my DH has tempered me a bit, and has made me realize that, as much as I want to keep my daughter safe, I don't want to raise her to be paranoid.
But, again, just because I let her walk/run in the mall, it does NOT mean that I let her call the shots. I would never in a million years let her play hide and seek with someone else's cart 
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Posted by june262004
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by june262004
Posted by Shelly
Posted by luckysmom
There is absolutly 100% no excuse to not watch your kids. There is no reason your 2 or 3 year old should be running in and out of stores if you are way behind them. Thats more than not completely controlling your kids and more than freedom. And honestly i don't think it's being a good parent. IMO a good parent would be watching thier kids not talking to thier friend and not paying attention to where your kids are going.
I agree that your eyes should always be on your kids and you should always be paying attention to your children. Maybe I am not in the mall enough, but I almost never see parents blatently ignoring thier toddlers and talking to thier friends.
ETA: I guess I should explain where I am coming from. I was in the mall last weekend. It wasn't very crowded. Now my daughter loves to run. She hates to be in her stroller and almost never lets me hold her hand. Running free makes her so happy. So I let her run and I was right behind her by a few steps. I was by myself and totally focusing on her.
I just feel that parents get blamed for so much. We get dirty looks if we use those leash things, but we "make people sick" if we let kids run around.
I didn't mean to start drama and I am certainly not defending people who really ignore their kids or don't pay attention to them. But sometimes, its hard being a parent and I think its very easy for everyone else to criticize.
But honestly I feel (and this JMO) that sometimes you need to tell your kids NO
It's just not safe.
True. And at the same time, sometimes you need to LET your children be children and allow them some independence and freedom. It doesn't mean you should ignore them - like Racheee, I let Alex walk with me in the mall. It may appear like she's walking/running like a little rascal out of control, but I assure you, I am in control at all moments, and know exactly where she is at all moments.
I guess.. I just see like the backyard as being a place for them to run and get rid of their energy. Or a playground. But the Mall?
HECK im gonna say it. When Im in a store with my shopping cart and some kid goes running by me playing hide and seek in front of my cart it ANNOYS ME!
I agree and the first words out of my mouth are always "where are the parents of this child!"
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
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But, again, just because I let her walk/run in the mall, it does NOT mean that I let her call the shots. I would never in a million years let her play hide and seek with someone else's cart
WELL THANK GOD! 
It seriously annoys me
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by june262004
But honestly I feel (and this JMO) that sometimes you need to tell your kids NO
It's just not safe.
True. And at the same time, sometimes you need to LET your children be children and allow them some independence and freedom. It doesn't mean you should ignore them - like Racheee, I let Alex walk with me in the mall. It may appear like she's walking/running like a little rascal out of control, but I assure you, I am in control at all moments, and know exactly where she is at all moments.
I guess.. I just see like the backyard as being a place for them to run and get rid of their energy. Or a playground. But the Mall?
HECK im gonna say it. When Im in a store with my shopping cart and some kid goes running by me playing hide and seek in front of my cart it ANNOYS ME!
Well, what about winter? A rainy day? Sure, playing outside is ideal for getting out their energy, but let me tell you, my daughter's energy doesn't stop - E.V.E.R. Even if I let her play outside for 4 hours, she would still have enough energy to wreak havoc in the mall. And, while I tend to lean on the overprotective side, my DH has tempered me a bit, and has made me realize that, as much as I want to keep my daughter safe, I don't want to raise her to be paranoid.
But, again, just because I let her walk/run in the mall, it does NOT mean that I let her call the shots. I would never in a million years let her play hide and seek with someone else's cart
So Alex goes to the mall everyday in the winter to get her energy out?
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Re: X-Post: Did anyone hear about a kidnapping at Roosevelt Field?
Posted by june262004
So Alex goes to the mall everyday in the winter to get her energy out?
Actually, no - I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here because I truly hate the mall and avoid it all costs.
She's in daycare all day during the week, but yup, you better believe on a rainy/snowy/cold winter day on the weekend, we take her to the mall, to Ikea (her favorite) or to an indoor gym.
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