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stinger
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
Agree
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Posted 1/29/17 7:51 AM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
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Posted 1/29/17 7:54 AM |
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Chai77
Brighter days ahead
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
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Posted 1/29/17 9:02 AM |
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Michellec
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Re: I feel so sad today
You know what, I am usually pretty polite on facebook, I don't get involved with political posts much, I don't post much at all in general. But now I find myself commenting on other people's stuff in a scorch the earth kind of way. I just don't care anymore. There is a right and a wrong. (Just venting because I feel at a loss. I don't expect facebook and my comments to change our country.)
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Posted 1/29/17 9:31 AM |
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Bugaboo
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. They're just waiting for their tax cut that will never come or their job that was eliminated due to automation to come back. After everything that Trump has done this week, they still support him and are pleased by what he has done.
All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
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Posted 1/29/17 11:21 AM |
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Serendipity
Summer!
Member since 4/07 7631 total posts
Name: PrayingWishingHopingALOT
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
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Posted 1/29/17 12:11 PM |
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Megs1234
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Member since 11/16 157 total posts
Name: Meg
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
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Posted 1/29/17 12:21 PM |
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Serendipity
Summer!
Member since 4/07 7631 total posts
Name: PrayingWishingHopingALOT
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
YUP, exactly!!
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Posted 1/29/17 12:31 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Member since 1/17 1465 total posts
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
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Posted 1/29/17 12:38 PM |
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Diane
Hope is Contagious....catch it
Member since 5/05 30683 total posts
Name: D
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Exactly!!!!! They are just waiting for their entitlements.
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Posted 1/29/17 12:40 PM |
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Serendipity
Summer!
Member since 4/07 7631 total posts
Name: PrayingWishingHopingALOT
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Message edited 1/29/2017 12:50:01 PM.
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Posted 1/29/17 12:49 PM |
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JME78
LIF Adult
Member since 11/09 3672 total posts
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
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Posted 1/29/17 1:17 PM |
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sameinitials
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Member since 2/12 1998 total posts
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
Exactly. Don't you find it problematic that the countries excluded are the ones to which he has business ties?
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Posted 1/29/17 1:19 PM |
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Serendipity
Summer!
Member since 4/07 7631 total posts
Name: PrayingWishingHopingALOT
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
Exactly. Don't you find it problematic that the countries excluded are the ones to which he has business ties?
Has that been proven? Is it a KNOWN fact?
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mrsrainbow
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
Exactly. Don't you find it problematic that the countries excluded are the ones to which he has business ties?
Has that been proven? Is it a KNOWN fact?
Good lord yes it has. Literally just Google it. Get out from under the rock and at least try to help yourself.
Washington Post
NPR
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sameinitials
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Member since 2/12 1998 total posts
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
Exactly. Don't you find it problematic that the countries excluded are the ones to which he has business ties?
Has that been proven? Is it a KNOWN fact?
Yes. Very well KNOWN.
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Posted 1/29/17 1:32 PM |
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Serendipity
Summer!
Member since 4/07 7631 total posts
Name: PrayingWishingHopingALOT
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
Exactly. Don't you find it problematic that the countries excluded are the ones to which he has business ties?
Has that been proven? Is it a KNOWN fact?
Good lord yes it has. Literally just Google it. Get out from under the rock and at least try to help yourself.
Washington Post
NPR
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Posted 1/29/17 1:34 PM |
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Diane
Hope is Contagious....catch it
Member since 5/05 30683 total posts
Name: D
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
I agree...I dont understand why these countries and Afghanistan are NOT on the list
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Posted 1/29/17 2:01 PM |
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Serendipity
Summer!
Member since 4/07 7631 total posts
Name: PrayingWishingHopingALOT
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Diane
Posted by JME78
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Not buying what you're selling.
Republicans claim to be to be pro life and wanting to do good by their fellow man. But fellow man only extends to other white Christians. Your concerns are not about safety but about fear. You don't want to hear the facts about Muslim terrorism, you don't want to see the blatant connection between the countries Trump didn't ban, and you certainly don't want to see hear the facts that this is unconstitutional, degrading and morally bankrupt.
First it's Muslims, then who? Does it not worry your or scare you that Steve Bannon is now the head of the NSC? Have you ever heard what he believes in, what he stands for? Do you think someone like that has any interest in protecting non white citizens?
There is a reason why this is happening. There is a reason why people are fighting back. This is absolutely not about who won the election, but rather, the man who won the election and what he is doing to tear apart our county and hurt the people is supposed to represent. I can't make you see it. I can't make you care. But I can stand by other people who care and demand to be heard and say that is not what or who we are. A country founded on the backs of immigrants, on lands stolen from Natives, none of us are exempt from the corruption of absolute power.
As another poster pointed out, we need to take care of our own first before we can help others. But we're not helping our own first. We're never going to take care of our own as long as people like Trump and Ryan and McConnell are calling the shots.
BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Why Iran then?
Why not Saudi Arabia? or Pakistan?
I agree...I dont understand why these countries and Afghanistan are NOT on the list
I am in COMPLETE agreement with that. Not turning blind eye or seeing what I want. I agree, however I did read an article this morning that stated (and I don't remember the source) that the list was preliminary and more countries will be added shortly.
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Bugaboo
Relax!
Member since 5/05 2133 total posts
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Diane
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Exactly!!!!! They are just waiting for their entitlements.
Yes, we know you care about your country...being lily white and Christian. We get it.
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MC09
arrrghhh!!!!
Member since 2/09 5674 total posts
Name: Me speaks pirate!
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Not harsh at all. I'd say it's a pretty accurate assessment.
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Posted 1/29/17 10:11 PM |
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MC09
arrrghhh!!!!
Member since 2/09 5674 total posts
Name: Me speaks pirate!
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by Diane
Posted by Megs1234
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by Chai77
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Chai77
Posted by Michellec
Posted by seaside
Anyone else feel weird about the fact that this stuff is so consuming and affects us all so much, and discussing it is relegated to the "politics" board?
This stuff is literally everything.
YES. This is not just "politics." It is not.
I agree. I think this is about law, policy, civil rights and discrimination. So post on FHF and we'll see what happlens.
Seriously. If this isn't an issue of families helping families, I don't know what is.
If they wanted to care, they would.
It'll just be the same old nonsense and ignorance and hatred directed towards Muslims - they're not ALL terrorists but we don't know that so we have to protect ourselves!
Then hit them with facts and it becomes how we're the problem who can't let go of the fact that Trump won.
The problem is that unless it DIRECTLY affects their life or wallet, they can afford not to care because they know they'll always be okay. I also don't want to hear their BS sympathy or forced empathy.
You're probably right. Though I think if you take one groups human and civil rights away, they could be coming for you next. They don't want to see that. And I just can't believe people could be so cruel.
Isn't that why they are Trump supporters? It's all about Me, Me, Me. They don't care about this country or anyone else but themselves. All I have to say is, may God have mercy on their souls.
That's a little harsh no?
Yes. Actually we DO care about the country, which is why we need to have rules in this country, just like other countries do.
Exactly!!!!! They are just waiting for their entitlements.
Who is "they"?
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Posted 1/29/17 10:12 PM |
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missliss
LIF Adolescent
Member since 1/10 648 total posts
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Re: I feel so sad today
Because of the goodness of the citizens on the moral & ethical side of this battle, the ACLU has received donations totaling FIVE times as much money in this weekend than they usually get in an entire year.
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Posted 1/29/17 10:24 PM |
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ElizaRags35
My 2 Girls
Member since 2/09 20494 total posts
Name: Me
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Re: I feel so sad today
Posted by missliss
Because of the goodness of the citizens on the moral & ethical side of this battle, the ACLU has received donations totaling FIVE times as much money in this weekend than they usually get in an entire year.
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Posted 1/29/17 10:55 PM |
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LeeCR7
LIF Infant
Member since 5/08 138 total posts
Name: Laura
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Re: I feel so sad today
[\QUOTE] BUT why is it that Obama made a similar action based upon terrorism FEARS and that was OK...why? Trump is limiting immigration from Jihhadist zones of conflict....TEMPORARILY! Why is this so bad! Terrorist have been KNOWN to use the refugees to get here! They have already succeeded in doing this in other countries. That is a known fact!
Obama restricted 1 country (Iraq) because a flaw was found in the vetting system. Two men got into our country who were planning an attack. Thankfully they were discovered and stopped. The government found the flaw and halted all immigration from that country until it was fixed. Then immigration resumed.
That is NOT what is happening here. These are 7 countries singled out only because of their major religion. Rudy Guilliani went on tv last night and admitted that Trump asked him to find a legal way to ban Muslims. And this is what he came up with.
Obama's temporary restriction was a sensible measure to a specific problem. This is Trump trying to get away with keeping an entire religion of people out of our country based on only that. That is un-American, illegal, and immoral. If anyone is okay with banning people from America based only on religion, then they are in the wrong country.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316726-giuliani-trump-asked-me-how-to-do-a-muslim-ban-legally
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