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Epeebes
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I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
I have a student who while all year iv'e had issues with it seems that lately i've exhausted all the strategies and everything i've got just isn't working anymore.
The student is very hyper/attention seeking. They don't focus on the work but would rather play around every chance they get. It's gotten to the point that the other students in the classroom are beyond annoyed and are starting to chime in on their antics to get them to stop which is causing even more of a ruckus.
The student doesn't listen to me anymore. No matter what it is I say. The thing is they know right from wrong, as I have pulled them aside to talk about their behavior and its like it goes over their heads.
The student is not well liked in the class, and I feel bad for that. I feel while they are playful and superhyper but at the same time nasty and mean to the other students I think they just want to be accepted, so it breaks my heart. At the same time I don't know what to do to refocus all this energy they have.
Please help I'm at a loss an feel drained, exhausted and frustrated over this whole issue.
Some examples of what the student does.
-Runs around the classroom repeatedly (its a big room)
-throws themselves out of thier seat and crawls around the room once barking like a dog.
-during reading time shouts out nonsense things.
-they get physical with other students over nonsense.
The parents claim its not always their childs fault, like its something 'im doing wrong or the other students.
Sigh
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justbeachy
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
has administration stepped in?
I would speak with my principal or AP and discuss this child and the effect they have on your classroom.
Message edited 2/4/2009 7:01:26 PM.
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wowcoulditbe
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
i have a similar child in my room  and have tried anything and everything...excpet mine is smart and does it for attention....her mom says she must feel threatened or angry at something i am doing...(not to mention it also happens at all specials, but maybe i am picky???) it is hard....
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| Posted 2/4/09 8:59 PM |
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mathteach
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Have you tried making them the teacher's pet? Often I find the child that gives me the most trouble is the one who wants my acceptance the most.
Try giving them special responsibilities, I'm not sure what grade/level you are teaching so you may have to adapt these for particular case.
1. I would give a do-now quiz type thing, give the girl the answer key and ask her to grade them for me. Then I had a special section of my grade book just for those quizzes and she would enter them.
2. She passed out everything. Even if it at first caused more problems. She will like the privilege and settle into it.
3. Ask her to write HW on the board or anything similar.
4. Give her points for good behavior, you can give them to the whole class. Kids will want these points and they will compete for them. Print something out, like 8-up on a page and then hand them out. The kids hand them back in to be used as EC on a test or something.
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| Posted 2/4/09 9:13 PM |
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MichLiz213
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by mathteach
Have you tried making them the teacher's pet? Often I find the child that gives me the most trouble is the one who wants my acceptance the most.
Try giving them special responsibilities, I'm not sure what grade/level you are teaching so you may have to adapt these for particular case.
1. I would give a do-now quiz type thing, give the girl the answer key and ask her to grade them for me. Then I had a special section of my grade book just for those quizzes and she would enter them.
2. She passed out everything. Even if it at first caused more problems. She will like the privilege and settle into it.
3. Ask her to write HW on the board or anything similar.
4. Give her points for good behavior, you can give them to the whole class. Kids will want these points and they will compete for them. Print something out, like 8-up on a page and then hand them out. The kids hand them back in to be used as EC on a test or something.
These are great ideas!
Have you tried a behavior chart? This works with a lot of students at my school.
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| Posted 2/4/09 9:48 PM |
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
What happens when you flat out ignore the behavior?
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| Posted 2/4/09 10:02 PM |
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by SupaBonBon
has administration stepped in?
I would speak with my principal or AP and discuss this child and the effect they have on your classroom.
Yes, I We've had a meeting about it, we are all at a loss and kinda seeking alternatives on what to do since what i've been trying just isnt working anymore.
Hence me asking for suggestions.
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| Posted 2/4/09 11:35 PM |
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by kbeana24
How old is this child? From your description he seems very young. In addition to your administrator, you could speak to your school psychologist. You could ask them to perform an informal classroom observation. If nothing else, that will give you ammunition against the parents claim that its "not their child"
the child is 7.
We dont have a school psychologist or guidance counselor.
btw the child's parent is also a teacher which makes it harder since they act like they know everything and cant get past the child being hyper.
they feel a child shouldnt HAVE to sit in a desk all day. Well they don't but when they are required to the child doesn't
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| Posted 2/4/09 11:41 PM |
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by wowcoulditbe
i have a similar child in my room and have tried anything and everything...excpet mine is smart and does it for attention....her mom says she must feel threatened or angry at something i am doing...(not to mention it also happens at all specials, but maybe i am picky???) it is hard....
My kid is the same way I know how you feel so i sympathize. Smart kid lookng for attention the wrong way.
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| Posted 2/4/09 11:43 PM |
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by MichLiz213
Posted by mathteach
Have you tried making them the teacher's pet? Often I find the child that gives me the most trouble is the one who wants my acceptance the most.
Try giving them special responsibilities, I'm not sure what grade/level you are teaching so you may have to adapt these for particular case.
1. I would give a do-now quiz type thing, give the girl the answer key and ask her to grade them for me. Then I had a special section of my grade book just for those quizzes and she would enter them.
2. She passed out everything. Even if it at first caused more problems. She will like the privilege and settle into it.
3. Ask her to write HW on the board or anything similar.
4. Give her points for good behavior, you can give them to the whole class. Kids will want these points and they will compete for them. Print something out, like 8-up on a page and then hand them out. The kids hand them back in to be used as EC on a test or something.
These are great ideas!
Have you tried a behavior chart? This works with a lot of students at my school.
I do have special jobs in the class, and tried it, it doesn't work and I always have to give the job away to another student who listens.
I do the behavior chart. I have weekly raffle prizes etc that conincide (sp?) but again child doesn't care.
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| Posted 2/4/09 11:48 PM |
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
What happens when you flat out ignore the behavior?
they continue. and continue, and continue. I isolate them and no success. They can't sit with other students because of the disruptions, I can't pay attention to every little attention seeking thing they do while im teaching (its unfair to those students who want to learn). I've begun to only acknowledge the physical behavior and that is getting all to frequent it's like the child knows i will not ignore them when they push, kick or hit another student.
All this is irritating me and my students. We are all fed up with it. While I don't say it out loud to my class I'm am relieved when the child is absent which is rarely. However kids speak the truth and always say thank god (blank) is not here today.
I've literally had it with this kid. I know the setting is not good for the child, I know they need some kind of services my school is unable to provide, but their has to be a solution to make things better in the classroom environment. I just haven't found it. Once i've nipped one thing in the bud, some other issue with this child arises.
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| Posted 2/5/09 12:01 AM |
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RadioLau
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
I would try the behavior chart too. Small frequent rewards first and then maybe they could work up to having lunch with you or something like that since the child seems to be demanding your attention.
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| Posted 2/5/09 8:26 AM |
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GraceAndAdam
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
I am a new teacher, so I don't have too much experience with this type of situation. But from working one-on-one with a student with similar behavior issues during my student teaching experience, I learned that rewarding positive behavior helps. I had a behavior chart for him and we came up with what his reward should be together. Since he seemed to crave attention, we decided that if he could improve his behavior within a certain amount of weeks, he could put a handful of marbles into the class marble jar. To him this was a huge deal, because it meant getting the class much closer to a party and meant he would be earning some very positive attention from his classmates. Before filling out the chart at the end of each day, I would speak to him about his behavior and let him tell me what he was proud of and what he thought he could have done better. When I realized he was having trouble remembering what was expected of him throughout the day, I came up with a system where I would place a yellow card on his desk if I felt he needed to check his behavior during a lesson. If I had to put a red card on his desk, he knew that he would not be earning all of his stars for his behavior chart that day. I had to pretty much stay on top of him all day, but I made it seem like I was trying to help him, rather than punish him. I really made a strong effort to make him feel like we were working on improving his behavior together, as a team.
My cooperating teacher was great with him too. She would actually encourage him to jog in place or pace back and forth in the back of the room if he felt like he had too much pent up energy. Or she would have him take a walk to the office to check her mailbox or give him a job to do just to alleviate some of his boredom and give him a chance to feel helpful.
I really saw such an improvement in his behavior over time. I think the main reason though for his improvement was that he was a genuinely sweet child that meant well, but just had too much energy and got bored easily. Hopefully the child you are dealing with can learn to get attention for positive behavior instead of for the negative behavior that he is currently displaying. Good luck!!!
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| Posted 2/5/09 12:25 PM |
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MichLiz213
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by Epeebes
Posted by MichLiz213
Posted by mathteach
Have you tried making them the teacher's pet? Often I find the child that gives me the most trouble is the one who wants my acceptance the most.
Try giving them special responsibilities, I'm not sure what grade/level you are teaching so you may have to adapt these for particular case.
1. I would give a do-now quiz type thing, give the girl the answer key and ask her to grade them for me. Then I had a special section of my grade book just for those quizzes and she would enter them.
2. She passed out everything. Even if it at first caused more problems. She will like the privilege and settle into it.
3. Ask her to write HW on the board or anything similar.
4. Give her points for good behavior, you can give them to the whole class. Kids will want these points and they will compete for them. Print something out, like 8-up on a page and then hand them out. The kids hand them back in to be used as EC on a test or something.
These are great ideas!
Have you tried a behavior chart? This works with a lot of students at my school.
I do have special jobs in the class, and tried it, it doesn't work and I always have to give the job away to another student who listens.
I do the behavior chart. I have weekly raffle prizes etc that conincide (sp?) but again child doesn't care.
Make it daily. Give the child their own special chart. And don't make it for just prizes. Maybe they can pick from the treasure chest, maybe extra computer time at the end of the day, or something the child really likes. Figure out their interests and get ideas off of that.
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| Posted 2/5/09 4:36 PM |
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MichLiz213
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by RadioLau
I would try the behavior chart too. Small frequent rewards first and then maybe they could work up to having lunch with you or something like that since the child seems to be demanding your attention.
I agree with the having lunch with you idea. That sounds like something special that they can work towards.
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| Posted 2/5/09 4:37 PM |
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by GraceAndAdam
I am a new teacher, so I don't have too much experience with this type of situation. But from working one-on-one with a student with similar behavior issues during my student teaching experience, I learned that rewarding positive behavior helps. I had a behavior chart for him and we came up with what his reward should be together. Since he seemed to crave attention, we decided that if he could improve his behavior within a certain amount of weeks, he could put a handful of marbles into the class marble jar. To him this was a huge deal, because it meant getting the class much closer to a party and meant he would be earning some very positive attention from his classmates. Before filling out the chart at the end of each day, I would speak to him about his behavior and let him tell me what he was proud of and what he thought he could have done better. When I realized he was having trouble remembering what was expected of him throughout the day, I came up with a system where I would place a yellow card on his desk if I felt he needed to check his behavior during a lesson. If I had to put a red card on his desk, he knew that he would not be earning all of his stars for his behavior chart that day. I had to pretty much stay on top of him all day, but I made it seem like I was trying to help him, rather than punish him. I really made a strong effort to make him feel like we were working on improving his behavior together, as a team.
My cooperating teacher was great with him too. She would actually encourage him to jog in place or pace back and forth in the back of the room if he felt like he had too much pent up energy. Or she would have him take a walk to the office to check her mailbox or give him a job to do just to alleviate some of his boredom and give him a chance to feel helpful.
I really saw such an improvement in his behavior over time. I think the main reason though for his improvement was that he was a genuinely sweet child that meant well, but just had too much energy and got bored easily. Hopefully the child you are dealing with can learn to get attention for positive behavior instead of for the negative behavior that he is currently displaying. Good luck!!!
This sounds interesting. I gave him a special job today and encouraged him to be good at it. So far its small steps I guess, today was a good day altho it had its ups and downs.
I couldnt sleep last night since the whole thing bothered me so much. But today was a whole lot better than mon-wed this week.
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Epeebes
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Re: I need advice/tips and some help I am beyond frustrated
Posted by MichLiz213
Make it daily. Give the child their own special chart. And don't make it for just prizes. Maybe they can pick from the treasure chest, maybe extra computer time at the end of the day, or something the child really likes. Figure out their interests and get ideas off of that.
We are working on something like this...I'm just hoping things start to turn around I don't want to go grey this young!
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