Article: I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry

Well this is just lovely

(sarcasm, extreme sarcasm)

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Ew. Really, I don't have any other words.

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She's just bitter because she hasn't been able to complete the very "easy" task of getting someone to marry her.

Article: I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry

I only read the first few sentences because i had to control myself from throwing my phone across the room.

I'm tired of the attack on women by other women!! We should be supporting each other!!! It's not easy in this world regardless of if your married, single, mom, no mom, divorced, etc.
Tired of this sh!t

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Posted by nferrandi

She's just bitter because she hasn't been able to complete the very "easy" task of getting someone to marry her.

Article: I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry

wow she is a terrible human being~

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There is SO much I could say about that VERY ignorant, moronic piece of writing but I will bite my tongue.

That's the type of article where it's probably best to just roll your eyes, move on, and chalk it up to the fact that there are A LOT of very stupid, clueless people in the world.

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I want to punch her in the face.

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Whatever. She doesn't know what she is talking about. I feel sorry for her, she sounds like a very sad, angry person who spends alot of time judging how people choose to live their lives to make herself feel superior.

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Posted by nferrandi

She's just bitter because she hasn't been able to complete the very "easy" task of getting someone to marry her.

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"If women can do anything, why are we still content with applauding them for doing nothing?"

And yet, what is she doing? Writing a blog? Bravo. Absolutely groundbreaking

B*tch, I dare you to come to my house (or any mother's house for that matter) and tell me I'm doing nothing!

eta: and I'm a FTWM but when I get home and on the weekends the last thing you'll find me doing is 'nothing'! LOL

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Article: I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry

She sounds bitter and jealous.

Feminism is not about validating a choice, it about HAVING the choice.

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I posted on FB and my husband commented that backpacking through Asia sounds incredibly easy compared with caring for a newborn.

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While I agree, her writing style is obnoxious and abrasive.

I don't completely disagree with her message. The WAY she said it is awful, and it's coming off as the perspective of a bitter spinster ........but as a woman with a husband, and children - I CAN see some of her points.

Would anyone argue that doing laundry is an accomplishment on par with performing heart surgery?

I'd spin it differently though - I think a lot of the time, since getting married and having children while not "easy" as she put it, IS the socially acceptable and expected norm - Young women who have not hit those 'milestones' are looked down on by those who have with a sort of pity -
And they also, feel about themselves that their lives aren't as important or they haven't accomplished as much -

I had this exact conversation with my best friend the other day - We're childhood friends, and planning to celebrate out 35th togather - I told her 35 bothered me this year. I don't know why, I just felt like, "GOD!! 35, there's so much more I wanted to accomplish at this point in my life" - her response?
"are you kidding me? at least you're a REAL grown up" When I questioned it she said "You know, the husband, the house, the kids .........." - no where in there was any mention of my education or professional accomplishements, as if all that matters as a woman is your husband, your house and your kids -

This infuriates me. I wasn't mad at her - I was mad FOR her, and for myself.
I was mad b/c she feel that at 35 she 'has no life' and is a failure and is embarassed if we bump into people from HS b/c she is single and childless - as if it's some diesease. As if her professional and educational and personal accomplishments don't matter at all - and mad for myself b/c since I AM married with children, the rest of my OWN prodessional or personal accomplishements for the rest of my life will have little to no significance b/c the only thing that really 'matters' is how well I raise my kids, and clean my house and keep my husband from cheating on me -

I do agree though, that promotions, and major life events SHOULD be celebrated for ALL women - NOT just those who aren't married, as if it's some kind of consolation prize - "Oh well, she didn't get married or have babies, so let's go out and celebrate her new VP promotion" .........

This mentality and judgement keeps us ALL on the defense, and at each other's throats constantly -

but it will never change - b/c women, are AWFUL to each other.

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Posted by MarisaK



While I agree, her writing style is obnoxious and abrasive.

I don't completely disagree with her message. The WAY she said it is awful, and it's coming off as the perspective of a bitter spinster ........but as a woman with a husband, and children - I CAN see some of her points.

Would anyone argue that doing laundry is an accomplishment on par with performing heart surgery?

I'd spin it differently though - I think a lot of the time, since getting married and having children while not "easy" as she put it, IS the socially acceptable and expected norm - Young women who have not hit those 'milestones' are looked down on by those who have with a sort of pity -
And they also, feel about themselves that their lives aren't as important or they haven't accomplished as much -

I had this exact conversation with my best friend the other day - We're childhood friends, and planning to celebrate out 35th togather - I told her 35 bothered me this year. I don't know why, I just felt like, "GOD!! 35, there's so much more I wanted to accomplish at this point in my life" - her response?
"are you kidding me? at least you're a REAL grown up" When I questioned it she said "You know, the husband, the house, the kids .........." - no where in there was any mention of my education or professional accomplishements, as if all that matters as a woman is your husband, your house and your kids -

This infuriates me. I wasn't mad at her - I was mad FOR her, and for myself.
I was mad b/c she feel that at 35 she 'has no life' and is a failure and is embarassed if we bump into people from HS b/c she is single and childless - as if it's some diesease. As if her professional and educational and personal accomplishments don't matter at all - and mad for myself b/c since I AM married with children, the rest of my OWN prodessional or personal accomplishements for the rest of my life will have little to no significance b/c the only thing that really 'matters' is how well I raise my kids, and clean my house and keep my husband from cheating on me -

I do agree though, that promotions, and major life events SHOULD be celebrated for ALL women - NOT just those who aren't married, as if it's some kind of consolation prize - "Oh well, she didn't get married or have babies, so let's go out and celebrate her new VP promotion" .........

This mentality and judgement keeps us ALL on the defense, and at each other's throats constantly -

but it will never change - b/c women, are AWFUL to each other.

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I do feel women are conditioned from a young age to think marriage and motherhood is what's "expected" of them. But this author is too angry and too ignorant to even come close to making an intelligent argument. Honestly, there are many other paths women can take in life, but really marriage and motherhood is the one that's socially acceptable. I don't doubt that many women follow this path because it's just what we do in society, even if it's not the life they really want. How many women are miserable wives and miserable mothers? Clearly it's not for everyone.

I am extremely proud of my marriage, it may be true that anyone can walk down the aisle, but I did it with the right guy, which is not such an easy accomplishment. I'm also extremely proud of being a mom—it's a major freaking accomplishment. I'm also really grateful and proud of my career, I celebrate my professional accomplishments as well, but they pale in comparison to my family.

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Posted by nferrandi

She's just bitter because she hasn't been able to complete the very "easy" task of getting someone to marry her.

This was my first thought!

Honestly, I feel sorry for her that she feels she has to "accomplish" so much in order to validate her life. I feel sad for her. Maybe she will feel awesome after backpacking through Asia alone, but she may never feel the sense of accomplishment from looking down at a content, sleeping baby suckling from her own nipple, or the pure love of a toddler throwing her arms around you and saying "I love you mom."

I also feel she has it wrong, as there is NOTHING more important than raising a child to be a contributing member of a future society. Cliche as it is, children ARE the future, and she can accomplish everything she ever dreamed, and more than likely her legacy will die with her...

As a SAHM, I'm not even offended by her ignorance...she has built up these lies she tells herself in order to feel better about her own, seemingly lonely, life.

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Posted by MarisaK



Would anyone argue that doing laundry is an accomplishment on par with performing heart surgery?

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Posted by MarisaK

Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319

Posted by nferrandi

She's just bitter because she hasn't been able to complete the very "easy" task of getting someone to marry her.

This was my first thought!

Honestly, I feel sorry for her that she feels she has to "accomplish" so much in order to validate her life. I feel sad for her. Maybe she will feel awesome after backpacking through Asia alone, but she may never feel the sense of accomplishment from looking down at a content, sleeping baby suckling from her own nipple, or the pure love of a toddler throwing her arms around you and saying "I love you mom."

I also feel she has it wrong, as there is NOTHING more important than raising a child to be a contributing member of a future society. Cliche as it is, children ARE the future, and she can accomplish everything she ever dreamed, and more than likely her legacy will die with her...

As a SAHM, I'm not even offended by her ignorance...she has built up these lies she tells herself in order to feel better about her own, seemingly lonely, life.

I don't mean to single you out - but this is exactly my point. You are defending yourself, by going on the attack - Why do you feel sad for her? Backpacking through Asia is a huge experience ........and not hearing a toddler say "I love you mom" isn't going to make her less of a human being. -

and to YOU there is NOTHING more important that raising a child - b/c it's the most improtant thing YOU are doing in your life .......but it is not, in general the most important thing ANY woman can do w/ her life ........KWIM??

I am NOT defending what she wrote or the way she wrote it. - But I can pull some sense from it ........

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Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319

Posted by nferrandi

She's just bitter because she hasn't been able to complete the very "easy" task of getting someone to marry her.

This was my first thought!

Honestly, I feel sorry for her that she feels she has to "accomplish" so much in order to validate her life. I feel sad for her. Maybe she will feel awesome after backpacking through Asia alone, but she may never feel the sense of accomplishment from looking down at a content, sleeping baby suckling from her own nipple, or the pure love of a toddler throwing her arms around you and saying "I love you mom."

I also feel she has it wrong, as there is NOTHING more important than raising a child to be a contributing member of a future society. Cliche as it is, children ARE the future, and she can accomplish everything she ever dreamed, and more than likely her legacy will die with her...

As a SAHM, I'm not even offended by her ignorance...she has built up these lies she tells herself in order to feel better about her own, seemingly lonely, life.

I don't mean to single you out - but this is exactly my point. You are defending yourself, by going on the attack - Why do you feel sad for her? Backpacking through Asia is a huge experience ........and not hearing a toddler say "I love you mom" isn't going to make her less of a human being. -

and to YOU there is NOTHING more important that raising a child - b/c it's the most improtant thing YOU are doing in your life .......but it is not, in general the most important thing ANY woman can do w/ her life ........KWIM??

I am NOT defending what she wrote or the way she wrote it. - But I can pull some sense from it ........

I respectfully disagree with you. I do think a woman's and a man's most important job is being a parent. I don't look down on those who choose not to become parents. That is heir choice and I respect it. But deep down I honestly feel sad for them. That's my opinion, and I do t apologize for it.

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Posted by MarisaK



Would anyone argue that doing laundry is an accomplishment on par with performing heart surgery?

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The problem with this comparison, is that it implies that Drs. don't ever do laundry, and mothers only do laundry.

While laundry is not as important as heart surgery, I think that RAISING a child is just as, if not more important, than heart surgery. Mother's raise children...children that will grow up to be Drs, lawyers, teachers, firemen, police officers, presidents, CEOs, inventors, scientists, and future parents. A routine heart surgery for a surgeon that's done it hundreds of times is probably easier than some situations parents are faced with. Both jobs are extremely important!!!!

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Posted by MrsA714

"If women can do anything, why are we still content with applauding them for doing nothing?"

And yet, what is she doing? Writing a blog? Bravo. Absolutely groundbreaking

B*tch, I dare you to come to my house (or any mother's house for that matter) and tell me I'm doing nothing!

eta: and I'm a FTWM but when I get home and on the weekends the last thing you'll find me doing is 'nothing'! LOL

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I feel like this was just to be inflammatory for the sake of it (the article, not the OP)

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Posted by MarisaK



Would anyone argue that doing laundry is an accomplishment on par with performing heart surgery?

.

The problem with this comparison, is that it implies that Drs. don't ever do laundry, and mothers only do laundry.

While laundry is not as important as heart surgery, I think that RAISING a child is just as, if not more important, than heart surgery. Mother's raise children...children that will grow up to be Drs, lawyers, teachers, firemen, police officers, presidents, CEOs, inventors, scientists, and future parents. A routine heart surgery for a surgeon that's done it hundreds of times is probably easier than some situations parents are faced with. Both jobs are extremely important!!!!

I see what you're saying ........but this is probably one of those things people will just have to agree to disagree about b/c there is no way to have this argument objectively - everyone is defensive about their own position, choices, and life - and most feel the need to defend it.
I don't undersatnd the need to compare at all - If the surgeon is happy in her life, and the SAHM is happy in hers .........what's the problem?
Why does anyone care? That's kind of my main point