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gina409
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
but if there was u would still feel the same right?
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
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I don't think the poor people in this country are the problem, pie or not.
I just want to bump this because the real problem is NOT "entitlements" wither they be unemployment, EBT, or Medicare, no matter how much some politicians may want you to believe it.
just out of curiosity, what is the real problem?
The fact that our politicians are in bed with our corporations which leads to tax loopholes through which billions leak every year and the deregulation that allowed anyone with a pulse to get mortgages.
Now the collapse has come and the government is broke and people are pointing to...
...the person who wants the pie.
I can't.
corruption on every level. can't pass the buck 100%. we are not talking about the same thing here. BOTTOM LINE - if you cannot afford it, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE IT! (with the exception of neccessities).
If people can buy luxuries on taxpayer dollars, where is the incentive to strive and do it on your own?
Parents who over indulge their children end up with spoiled children who want want want.
And to your point, the same person who wants (but cant afford that pie) is the same person who took a mortgage with zero money down and could never afford it in the first place. everyone needs to be held accountable here.
I would like to quote a few people but for space I'll just follow up on this.
I agree with much of what nrthshgrl said.
Re: the above - You're right; perhaps we are talking about two different things. I was just answering your question, though.
I do think people should take personal responsibility. I don't think anyone said otherwise.
However, people need to know what has been going on over the last 20 or so years in our government. The rules governing the existence, regulation, and sale of certain financial instruments changed drastically and it was ALL for the benefit of corporations and to the detriment of the layperson. The banks knew their loans were shit but didn't care for a variety of reasons, one of which was because of a change in the way subprime mortgages were labeled and classified. That is the short version of the story.
We all need to educate ourselves. Matt Taibbi wrote a great article on this a few years ago. Google things like "credit default swap" or "collateralized debt obligation." If you read enough, you'll want to vomit.
Between the layperson and the government, I do think the government deserves the lion's share of the blame when financial regulations that have been protecting people for years are tossed aside in favor of corporate profit.
You know what? It shouldn't require hiring a lawyer to take out a loan.
Eh, just a little off the topic from pie.
For the person who said that the disabled receiving benefits should not be able to get a pie, even just once in a while....the phrase "there but for the grace of God" comes to mind.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Qu'ils mangent de la brioche.
This statement was once considered to be the ultimate insult. It was the ultimate show of ignorance with regard to the plight of the poor.
Qu'ils mangent de la tarte.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Janice
I admit, I was blownn away with how much my SIL gets each month for food stamps.
Her and her 4 children-$945.00 a month.
plus WIC for the younger one.
plus the 2 older ones get free breakfast and free lunch in school.
They eat very well. She is always on facebook posting foodie pics.
What are the circumstances? I know people who have no kids and earn next to nothing and get $120 a month. Is she working? disabled?
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bookworm
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Hmm...
I agree that we have bigger fish to fry than poor people who need food stamps as far as the middle class getting taken for a ride. I would have to admit that a government that's fully in bed with big business is a much larger problem.
I also think there are people in this country who receive social services who make more money than the government knows about because they work off the books--hence why the free breakfast in my school is filled with kids wearing Coach sneakers and carrying iPhones.
I also think if you're so desperate that you can't afford to feed yourself, it's probably not the taxpayer's burden to buy you a pie from the bakery. They ought to be spending that money on nutritious foods like fruits/veggies, whole grains and proteins. This is why I like the WIC program better than the FS program.
As far as poor people needing joy so it's our responsibility to buy them a pie? I'm not hearing that. This is something charity provides, not government. I also donate generously to the holiday food basket drives at school, including such indulgences as cookies and candy for dessert. Everything in its proper place.
And the baker, in a country where we honor free enterprise, has zero obligation to accept EBT cards.
P.S. I grew up dirt poor.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
If those who are receiving food stamps are also working regular jobs (as several people on this thread were arguing), they are more than welcome to spend the money they make on these pies. No one is denying poor people expensive pies.
What about all the hard working families who aren't on any govt assistance, and can't afford these pies without having to sacrifice ACTUAL necessities for their families. Aren't they "entitled" to these pies too? I guess they are just doing their civic duty by going without so that other families can indulge once in a while.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by bookworm
Hmm...
I agree that we have bigger fish to fry than poor people who need food stamps as far as the middle class getting taken for a ride. I would have to admit that a government that's fully in bed with big business is a much larger problem.
I also think there are people in this country who receive social services who make more money than the government knows about because they work off the books--hence why the free breakfast in my school is filled with kids wearing Coach sneakers and carrying iPhones.
I also think if you're so desperate that you can't afford to feed yourself, it's probably not the taxpayer's burden to buy you a pie from the bakery. They ought to be spending that money on nutritious foods like fruits/veggies, whole grains and proteins. This is why I like the WIC program better than the FS program.
As far as poor people needing joy so it's our responsibility to buy them a pie? I'm not hearing that. This is something charity provides, not government. I also donate generously to the holiday food basket drives at school, including such indulgences as cookies and candy for dessert. Everything in its proper place.
And the baker, in a country where we honor free enterprise, has zero obligation to accept EBT cards.
P.S. I grew up dirt poor.
Beautifully stated. I agree.
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| Posted 8/22/12 10:17 AM |
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
If people use EBT cards to buy pie they are not buying something else. Either way, they only get a set amount. If they want to blow it on pie instead of a box of preservatives, so be it. Preservative laden, processed food is dirt cheap. How much of that can a body take?
The farmer's market people think that way too.
If this baker doesn't want people on assistance to have her pies so be it. It's pretty narrow minded and frankly none of her business. She is taking advantage of a hot topic in her state to generate buzz for her business. I guess everyone is fair game when it comes to her bottom line.
If she's pissed about how corrupt these systems are, she could channel her energies in a different way. She could donate her pies to homeless shelters and charities, but no, she will take a stand this way. I hope she never, ever needs help or feels the way many people who are struggling.
And for the record, if my one legged, brain injured brother wants a pie that doesn't come from a box once in a blue moon, I will make sure he gets it from someplace else. Further, I will also buy him one from a store or bakery that will accept payment from assistance programs.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
If anything not necessarily but gives pleasure and comfort is a luxury, then I guess we should just give the poor tasteless nutrition bars, or ensure so they get their basic caloric needs met. Why flavor it? That's just to add pleasure, it's not a necessity.
Juice? not necessary, they can drink water. Milk? Fresh is a luxury, dried is cheaper.
And to those who mentioned boxed cake..isn't that a luxury too? Cake is not a neccessity at all.
I mean come on now, really? it's a pie.
I agree with the PP who said "there but for the grace of God go I" That's exactly how I feel. We have a lot to be thankful for. I'm not going to begrudge someone a pie
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Here is what I do not understand:
We are saying with respect to the mortgage loans etc. that the government needs to protect its socioeconimcally deprived citizenry from themselves as they do not have the knowledge to be able to enter into these transactions without assistance. Fine.
We also know that there's an obesity crisis in this country and there is a direct correlation between obesity and poverty. Now, using the same argument as above, would it not stand to reason that we need to protect those same people from their own poor choices with respect to food, thus potentially saving their lives. I think it would be perfectly legitimate to say that with their own money they can buy whatever they want but with government assistance you should only be able to buy wholesome, nutritious foods.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by bookworm
Hmm...
I agree that we have bigger fish to fry than poor people who need food stamps as far as the middle class getting taken for a ride. I would have to admit that a government that's fully in bed with big business is a much larger problem.
I also think there are people in this country who receive social services who make more money than the government knows about because they work off the books--hence why the free breakfast in my school is filled with kids wearing Coach sneakers and carrying iPhones.
I also think if you're so desperate that you can't afford to feed yourself, it's probably not the taxpayer's burden to buy you a pie from the bakery. They ought to be spending that money on nutritious foods like fruits/veggies, whole grains and proteins. This is why I like the WIC program better than the FS program.
As far as poor people needing joy so it's our responsibility to buy them a pie? I'm not hearing that. This is something charity provides, not government. I also donate generously to the holiday food basket drives at school, including such indulgences as cookies and candy for dessert. Everything in its proper place.
And the baker, in a country where we honor free enterprise, has zero obligation to accept EBT cards.
P.S. I grew up dirt poor.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Pomegranate5
If those who are receiving food stamps are also working regular jobs (as several people on this thread were arguing), they are more than welcome to spend the money they make on these pies. No one is denying poor people expensive pies.
What about all the hard working families who aren't on any govt assistance, and can't afford these pies without having to sacrifice ACTUAL necessities for their families. Aren't they "entitled" to these pies too? I guess they are just doing their civic duty by going without so that other families can indulge once in a while.
This is EXACTLY what I've been thinking and couldn't put into words.
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| Posted 8/22/12 11:34 AM |
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by JenniferEver
If anything not necessarily but gives pleasure and comfort is a luxury, then I guess we should just give the poor tasteless nutrition bars, or ensure so they get their basic caloric needs met. Why flavor it? That's just to add pleasure, it's not a necessity.
Juice? not necessary, they can drink water. Milk? Fresh is a luxury, dried is cheaper.
And to those who mentioned boxed cake..isn't that a luxury too? Cake is not a neccessity at all.
I mean come on now, really? it's a pie.
I agree with the PP who said "there but for the grace of God go I" That's exactly how I feel. We have a lot to be thankful for. I'm not going to begrudge someone a pie
No, no no, don't you understand? Cake is ok as long as it comes prepackaged and from a box that is cheaper and doesn't have the word gourmet on it that some machine made. They could bake it from scratch but that takes longer and they would have to do it in between their two minimum wage jobs with two babies in tow. Not impossible I guess. Or maybe with one hand on the walker and the other mixing.
As long as I'm paying into their assistance I should have a say in what they eat even if it's down to freakin pie. I want them to eat only apple pie from Hostess with that gloppy jelly. Yum. Apples are good for you right?
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by Janice
I admit, I was blownn away with how much my SIL gets each month for food stamps.
Her and her 4 children-$945.00 a month.
plus WIC for the younger one.
plus the 2 older ones get free breakfast and free lunch in school.
They eat very well. She is always on facebook posting foodie pics.
What are the circumstances? I know people who have no kids and earn next to nothing and get $120 a month. Is she working? disabled?
Not working, not disabled. She enjoys not working while she stays at home and reads. 2 older are in school. Younger 2 on daycare vouchers. We paid her rent for awhile. She currently lives in MIL's boyfriends house. Her and 4 kids in one room. We offered to take the 2 youngest till she gets on feet again...not interested . Dh got her a job working for his chain...again, not her thing.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by JenniferEver
If anything not necessarily but gives pleasure and comfort is a luxury, then I guess we should just give the poor tasteless nutrition bars, or ensure so they get their basic caloric needs met. Why flavor it? That's just to add pleasure, it's not a necessity.
Juice? not necessary, they can drink water. Milk? Fresh is a luxury, dried is cheaper.
And to those who mentioned boxed cake..isn't that a luxury too? Cake is not a neccessity at all.
I mean come on now, really? it's a pie.
I agree with the PP who said "there but for the grace of God go I" That's exactly how I feel. We have a lot to be thankful for. I'm not going to begrudge someone a pie
No, no no, don't you understand? Cake is ok as long as it comes prepackaged and from a box that is cheaper and doesn't have the word gourmet on it that some machine made. They could bake it from scratch but that takes longer and they would have to do it in between their two minimum wage jobs with two babies in tow. Not impossible I guess. Or maybe with one hand on the walker and the other mixing.
As long as I'm paying into their assistance I should have a say in what they eat even if it's down to freakin pie. I want them to eat only apple pie from Hostess with that gloppy jelly. Yum. Apples are good for you right?
I just have to agree to disagree with anyone who feels this way.
In my mind, if you are struggling to get by, then you have to think long and hard about what that $20 can purchase instead of a pie. I could feed my family breakfast for 2 weeks with $20. To me, that sacrifice is not greater than the reward.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Katareen
I just have to agree to disagree with anyone who feels this way.
In my mind, if you are struggling to get by, then you have to think long and hard about what that $20 can purchase instead of a pie. I could feed my family breakfast for 2 weeks with $20. To me, that sacrifice is not greater than the reward.
I agree with this....is the pie worth it if you are short money at the end of the month to feed your kids?
there are lots of things I want- I really want a birkin bag- I have the money- but if I spend it on that I can't pay my estimated quarterly taxes- maybe I can send the IRS a pic of the bag-
It's about understanding the difference between a want and need- it took me a while to learn this- I have been broker then broke- and had to make some tough choices- I learned the hard way about money- but at least I learned
no pie is worth not having food for a few days- organic, gourmet, what ever-
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Janice
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by Janice
I admit, I was blownn away with how much my SIL gets each month for food stamps.
Her and her 4 children-$945.00 a month.
plus WIC for the younger one.
plus the 2 older ones get free breakfast and free lunch in school.
They eat very well. She is always on facebook posting foodie pics.
What are the circumstances? I know people who have no kids and earn next to nothing and get $120 a month. Is she working? disabled?
Not working, not disabled. She enjoys not working while she stays at home and reads. 2 older are in school. Younger 2 on daycare vouchers. We paid her rent for awhile. She currently lives in MIL's boyfriends house. Her and 4 kids in one room. We offered to take the 2 youngest till she gets on feet again...not interested . Dh got her a job working for his chain...again, not her thing.
Then she shouldn't have pie.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
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Posted by Katareen
I just have to agree to disagree with anyone who feels this way.
In my mind, if you are struggling to get by, then you have to think long and hard about what that $20 can purchase instead of a pie. I could feed my family breakfast for 2 weeks with $20. To me, that sacrifice is not greater than the reward.
I agree with this....is the pie worth it if you are short money at the end of the month to feed your kids?
there are lots of things I want- I really want a birkin bag- I have the money- but if I spend it on that I can't pay my estimated quarterly taxes- maybe I can send the IRS a pic of the bag-
It's about understanding the difference between a want and need- it took me a while to learn this- I have been broker then broke- and had to make some tough choices- I learned the hard way about money- but at least I learned
no pie is worth not having food for a few days- organic, gourmet, what ever-
Ah yes, but it's their choice. Us denying them pie won't fix the entitlements programs. If they would rather have pie than something else so be it. Can't regulate the crap out of everything and everyone. That is not what crumbled our financial system.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by Beth
Posted by Katareen
I just have to agree to disagree with anyone who feels this way.
In my mind, if you are struggling to get by, then you have to think long and hard about what that $20 can purchase instead of a pie. I could feed my family breakfast for 2 weeks with $20. To me, that sacrifice is not greater than the reward.
I agree with this....is the pie worth it if you are short money at the end of the month to feed your kids?
there are lots of things I want- I really want a birkin bag- I have the money- but if I spend it on that I can't pay my estimated quarterly taxes- maybe I can send the IRS a pic of the bag-
It's about understanding the difference between a want and need- it took me a while to learn this- I have been broker then broke- and had to make some tough choices- I learned the hard way about money- but at least I learned
no pie is worth not having food for a few days- organic, gourmet, what ever-
Ah yes, but it's their choice. Us denying them pie won't fix the entitlements programs. If they would rather have pie than something else so be it. Can't regulate the crap out of everything and everyone. That is not what crumbled our financial system.
Actually you can (and should) regulate the crap out of social services to make sure the money goes to the right place. It's a handout, and it's meant to be temporary for the able-bodied, and we're not obligated to let people freely spend public money. Again, this is why I like WIC; it dictates (for example) 2 gallons milk, 2 loaves bread, 4 cans formula, 1 gallon 100% juice, 1 pound meat, 1 bag rice, etc.
I will happily give my taxes to see underprivileged children get proper nutrition. I don't wanna buy pies and cakes.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by bookworm
Actually you can (and should) regulate the crap out of social services to make sure the money goes to the right place. It's a handout, and it's meant to be temporary for the able-bodied, and we're not obligated to let people freely spend public money. Again, this is why I like WIC; it dictates (for example) 2 gallons milk, 2 loaves bread, 4 cans formula, 1 gallon 100% juice, 1 pound meat, 1 bag rice, etc.
I will happily give my taxes to see underprivileged children get proper nutrition. I don't wanna buy pies and cakes.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by JenniferEver
If anything not necessarily but gives pleasure and comfort is a luxury, then I guess we should just give the poor tasteless nutrition bars, or ensure so they get their basic caloric needs met. Why flavor it? That's just to add pleasure, it's not a necessity.
Juice? not necessary, they can drink water. Milk? Fresh is a luxury, dried is cheaper.
And to those who mentioned boxed cake..isn't that a luxury too? Cake is not a neccessity at all.
I mean come on now, really? it's a pie.
I agree with the PP who said "there but for the grace of God go I" That's exactly how I feel. We have a lot to be thankful for. I'm not going to begrudge someone a pie
No, no no, don't you understand? Cake is ok as long as it comes prepackaged and from a box that is cheaper and doesn't have the word gourmet on it that some machine made. They could bake it from scratch but that takes longer and they would have to do it in between their two minimum wage jobs with two babies in tow. Not impossible I guess. Or maybe with one hand on the walker and the other mixing.
As long as I'm paying into their assistance I should have a say in what they eat even if it's down to freakin pie. I want them to eat only apple pie from Hostess with that gloppy jelly. Yum. Apples are good for you right?
Again- I don't get government assistance and this is what I have to do. Why should someone who is on assistance get the "gourmet pie."
I think someone like your brother is the exception. Unfortunately, there is only one system that covers everyone- from the genuinely disabled to the person who is just having a hard time for now to the genuinely lazy. 
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by bookworm
Actually you can (and should) regulate the crap out of social services to make sure the money goes to the right place. It's a handout, and it's meant to be temporary for the able-bodied, and we're not obligated to let people freely spend public money. Again, this is why I like WIC; it dictates (for example) 2 gallons milk, 2 loaves bread, 4 cans formula, 1 gallon 100% juice, 1 pound meat, 1 bag rice, etc.
I will happily give my taxes to see underprivileged children get proper nutrition. I don't wanna buy pies and cakes.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by bookworm
Actually you can (and should) regulate the crap out of social services to make sure the money goes to the right place. It's a handout, and it's meant to be temporary for the able-bodied, and we're not obligated to let people freely spend public money. Again, this is why I like WIC; it dictates (for example) 2 gallons milk, 2 loaves bread, 4 cans formula, 1 gallon 100% juice, 1 pound meat, 1 bag rice, etc.
I will happily give my taxes to see underprivileged children get proper nutrition. I don't wanna buy pies and cakes.
perfectly said!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by kahlua716
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by JenniferEver
If anything not necessarily but gives pleasure and comfort is a luxury, then I guess we should just give the poor tasteless nutrition bars, or ensure so they get their basic caloric needs met. Why flavor it? That's just to add pleasure, it's not a necessity.
Juice? not necessary, they can drink water. Milk? Fresh is a luxury, dried is cheaper.
And to those who mentioned boxed cake..isn't that a luxury too? Cake is not a neccessity at all.
I mean come on now, really? it's a pie.
I agree with the PP who said "there but for the grace of God go I" That's exactly how I feel. We have a lot to be thankful for. I'm not going to begrudge someone a pie
No, no no, don't you understand? Cake is ok as long as it comes prepackaged and from a box that is cheaper and doesn't have the word gourmet on it that some machine made. They could bake it from scratch but that takes longer and they would have to do it in between their two minimum wage jobs with two babies in tow. Not impossible I guess. Or maybe with one hand on the walker and the other mixing.
As long as I'm paying into their assistance I should have a say in what they eat even if it's down to freakin pie. I want them to eat only apple pie from Hostess with that gloppy jelly. Yum. Apples are good for you right?
Again- I don't get government assistance and this is what I have to do. Why should someone who is on assistance get the "gourmet pie."
I think someone like your brother is the exception. Unfortunately, there is only one system that covers everyone- from the genuinely disabled to the person who is just having a hard time for now to the genuinely lazy.
Unfortunately, my brother is not the exception. The only reason the lazy moochers are highlighted more is because it's appalling. No one is appalled at the disabled person who can't work who receives benefits and will receive benefits for the rest of his life. No one is appalled and seniors on an income of $800 a month getting assistance. Most people receiving help don't want to be on assistance. For most, it sucks and they would rather be independent and able to take care of themselves. It's the few that ruin it for the many.
Unfortunately, EBT is not highly defined and one baker or a dozen bakers refusing to accept the program won't change the system.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by bookworm
Posted by Blu-ize
Posted by Beth
Posted by Katareen
I just have to agree to disagree with anyone who feels this way.
In my mind, if you are struggling to get by, then you have to think long and hard about what that $20 can purchase instead of a pie. I could feed my family breakfast for 2 weeks with $20. To me, that sacrifice is not greater than the reward.
I agree with this....is the pie worth it if you are short money at the end of the month to feed your kids?
there are lots of things I want- I really want a birkin bag- I have the money- but if I spend it on that I can't pay my estimated quarterly taxes- maybe I can send the IRS a pic of the bag-
It's about understanding the difference between a want and need- it took me a while to learn this- I have been broker then broke- and had to make some tough choices- I learned the hard way about money- but at least I learned
no pie is worth not having food for a few days- organic, gourmet, what ever-
Ah yes, but it's their choice. Us denying them pie won't fix the entitlements programs. If they would rather have pie than something else so be it. Can't regulate the crap out of everything and everyone. That is not what crumbled our financial system.
Actually you can (and should) regulate the crap out of social services to make sure the money goes to the right place. It's a handout, and it's meant to be temporary for the able-bodied, and we're not obligated to let people freely spend public money. Again, this is why I like WIC; it dictates (for example) 2 gallons milk, 2 loaves bread, 4 cans formula, 1 gallon 100% juice, 1 pound meat, 1 bag rice, etc.
I will happily give my taxes to see underprivileged children get proper nutrition. I don't wanna buy pies and cakes.
If it is the same alloted amount, how is it different? They get a set amout per month, what difference really does it make if they get the items you listed vs junk, prepackaged and frozen meals? It costs the same.exact.amount.
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