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emilylives
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
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I don't think the poor people in this country are the problem, pie or not.
I just want to bump this because the real problem is NOT "entitlements" wither they be unemployment, EBT, or Medicare, no matter how much some politicians may want you to believe it.
just out of curiosity, what is the real problem?
The fact that our politicians are in bed with our corporations which leads to tax loopholes through which billions leak every year and the deregulation that allowed anyone with a pulse to get mortgages.
Now the collapse has come and the government is broke and people are pointing to...
...the person who wants the pie.
I can't.
i'm glad i'm not alone in thinking this
I typed this whole thing and deleted. This pretty much sums it up. PIE. It's just freakin PIE. It ain't the problem.
Thanks JennP...That's exactly what I would have said had I not gone to bed
me too!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I think the baker has the right to not accept EBT and the government should not force ANY non-government business to accept EBT. I also agree with her opinion. It is not just pie for her, its her principles.
I also believe that a person getting food stamps can and should be regulated on what they buy.
How many people give their kids lunch money and then ask what they bought for lunch....then to follow it up with saying, "if you don't buy healthier foods then you will have to bring your lunch".
Maybe some of you don't ask and let your kids buy what they want, let them trade their food for stuff you would never let them have.
Well just like kids (who BTW wont starve) there are people on food stamps who will work the system. Having FS rules is no different then asking your kids what they bought for lunch. Because in both cases, they are not paying for it.
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Blu-ize
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I don't see how pie, even a gourmet pie is a luxury. If they are driving fancy cars, in million dollar homes, taking grand vacations, not working and taking assistance, then that's a problem.
Food stamps or EBT isn't that much to begin with. It's not like it's a ton of money. If someone wanted a special treat because frankly life just sucks and they are down on their luck for whatever reason, that's life..there has to be some joy and if pie fits the bill so be it.
It's just pie.
And that baker can do whatever she wants. I would just go buy my special pie somewhere else.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
This thread just kind of makes me want to buy pie for people on food stamps.
Apparently people think they should subsist on bread and water, and if they are so down that they can't have an occasional pie and people would look down on them for getting a freakin' baked good, then I have a lot to be thankful for.
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kahlua716
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by JenniferEver
This thread just kind of makes me want to buy pie for people on food stamps.
Apparently people think they should subsist on bread and water, and if they are so down that they can't have an occasional pie and people would look down on them for getting a freakin' baked good, then I have a lot to be thankful for.
That's sooo not true! I don't begrudge anyone the occasional luxury- but there are other ways to get it without buying a $25 organic whoopie pie! Buy a box of cake mix, and a dozen eggs! That's what I do because I CAN'T afford a $25 pie!
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Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
FWIW, there are restrictions on what one can buy with FS - from http://otda.ny.gov/programs/snap/qanda.asp#purchase:
What can I purchase with SNAP?
The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), has strict rules and regulations in place regarding the use of SNAP benefits. Allowable food purchases are very specific.
A detailed list of items that may be purchased with SNAP benefits can be found at http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/retailers/Generic_Product_Determinations.xlsx.
Households CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:
Foods for the household to eat, such as, but not limited to:
Breads and cereals
Fruits and vegetables
Meats, fish and poultry
Dairy products
Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat
Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:
Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco
Any nonfood items, such as:
Pet foods
Soaps, paper products
Household supplies
Vitamins and medicines
Food that will be eaten in the store
Hot foods
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PrincessP
This thread is so absurd, really. I only came on to see what the other poster came back to answer my question which I found the response distrubing in itself. "Life is not fair"....really?!?! i hope to God you are never in a situation where someone just says "well hey ...that sux for you".
I'm the poster who said "unfortunately, life is not fair". And it isn't. It does suck that some people are disabled through no fault of their own and rely on public assistance.
But let's say we all end up agreeing that it's unfair and let them buy their expensive farmers' market pies. Where do we draw the line after that? Most women enjoy manicures. Should we subsidize that too? After all, doesn't everyone have a right to relax and get pampered a little?
I think everyone, no matter how fiscally conservative, would agree that nobody should be going hungry. Everyone should have access to basic medical care. But when did frivolous little *luxuries* become a God-given right?
I stand by my original statement. I think we agree to disagree.
How can we seriously talk about a pie, a food item, in comparison to a manicure? And TBH...I dont even think a manicure is on the "luxury" list as well as I dont believe a pie is luxurious either. I am shocked that such basic items are considered to be such luxuries. BUT like you said, lets agree to disagree.
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
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PrincessP
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by JenniferEver
This thread just kind of makes me want to buy pie for people on food stamps.
Apparently people think they should subsist on bread and water, and if they are so down that they can't have an occasional pie and people would look down on them for getting a freakin' baked good, then I have a lot to be thankful for.
I swear to God...I so feel the same. I am going to hand out vouchers for $10 manicures since its so luxurious. You would think the govt is handing these people vouchers for a lexus. Its pie!!!!!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I wonder if anyone on FS actually TRIED to buy one of her pies or is she just trying to get some publicity (I didn't read the article). Any one of my 300+ clients on FS would have moved RIGHT PAST a $25 pie with a laugh. Guarantee it. They get anywhere from $20-175 a month and probably most them dont even know what a whoopie pie is lol (95% immigrants).
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by PrincessP
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Just thought I would answer this as I am local to the story - apparently she has actually gotten a lot of support and more business. The Boston Herald reported the other day that at the last farmer's market " the line for Taber’s goods stretched to the parking lot and she sold out in two hours."
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by ItsTime2011
Posted by PrincessP
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Just thought I would answer this as I am local to the story - apparently she has actually gotten a lot of support and more business. The Boston Herald reported the other day that at the last farmer's market " the line for Taber’s goods stretched to the parking lot and she sold out in two hours."
Just like chik fil a
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PrincessP
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by ItsTime2011
Posted by PrincessP
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Just thought I would answer this as I am local to the story - apparently she has actually gotten a lot of support and more business. The Boston Herald reported the other day that at the last farmer's market " the line for Taber’s goods stretched to the parking lot and she sold out in two hours."
All bc she doesnt take foodstamps? That says ALOT for the community.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by PrincessP
Posted by ItsTime2011
Posted by PrincessP
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Just thought I would answer this as I am local to the story - apparently she has actually gotten a lot of support and more business. The Boston Herald reported the other day that at the last farmer's market " the line for Taber’s goods stretched to the parking lot and she sold out in two hours."
All bc she doesnt take foodstamps? That says ALOT for the community.
I think unfortunately people use these things as messages. Nothing to do with the issue at hand, they grasp on to something, and consider it a symbol. Kind of like how people donated $700K to the bus monitor who was bullied.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by ItsTime2011
Posted by PrincessP
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Just thought I would answer this as I am local to the story - apparently she has actually gotten a lot of support and more business. The Boston Herald reported the other day that at the last farmer's market " the line for Taber’s goods stretched to the parking lot and she sold out in two hours."
She'd get my business!
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Katareen
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by PrincessP
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PrincessP
This thread is so absurd, really. I only came on to see what the other poster came back to answer my question which I found the response distrubing in itself. "Life is not fair"....really?!?! i hope to God you are never in a situation where someone just says "well hey ...that sux for you".
I'm the poster who said "unfortunately, life is not fair". And it isn't. It does suck that some people are disabled through no fault of their own and rely on public assistance.
But let's say we all end up agreeing that it's unfair and let them buy their expensive farmers' market pies. Where do we draw the line after that? Most women enjoy manicures. Should we subsidize that too? After all, doesn't everyone have a right to relax and get pampered a little?
I think everyone, no matter how fiscally conservative, would agree that nobody should be going hungry. Everyone should have access to basic medical care. But when did frivolous little *luxuries* become a God-given right?
I stand by my original statement. I think we agree to disagree.
How can we seriously talk about a pie, a food item, in comparison to a manicure? And TBH...I dont even think a manicure is on the "luxury" list as well as I dont believe a pie is luxurious either. I am shocked that such basic items are considered to be such luxuries. BUT like you said, lets agree to disagree.
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Luxury:
1. Something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort.
So in this case YES, pie is absolutely a luxury!!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Katareen
Posted by PrincessP
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PrincessP
This thread is so absurd, really. I only came on to see what the other poster came back to answer my question which I found the response distrubing in itself. "Life is not fair"....really?!?! i hope to God you are never in a situation where someone just says "well hey ...that sux for you".
I'm the poster who said "unfortunately, life is not fair". And it isn't. It does suck that some people are disabled through no fault of their own and rely on public assistance.
But let's say we all end up agreeing that it's unfair and let them buy their expensive farmers' market pies. Where do we draw the line after that? Most women enjoy manicures. Should we subsidize that too? After all, doesn't everyone have a right to relax and get pampered a little?
I think everyone, no matter how fiscally conservative, would agree that nobody should be going hungry. Everyone should have access to basic medical care. But when did frivolous little *luxuries* become a God-given right?
I stand by my original statement. I think we agree to disagree.
How can we seriously talk about a pie, a food item, in comparison to a manicure? And TBH...I dont even think a manicure is on the "luxury" list as well as I dont believe a pie is luxurious either. I am shocked that such basic items are considered to be such luxuries. BUT like you said, lets agree to disagree.
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Luxury:
1. Something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort.
So in this case YES, pie is absolutely a luxury!!
yup, as is a manicure. no one needs them. they are not necessities. yes, they are really nice to have but when it comes down to school supplies and breakfast for your kid of a manicure, i think we can all agree that a manicure is a luxury ... OR buy a $2 bottle of polish and a .99 bottle of polish remover and have 25 manicures!!!
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
1. This is so dumb, this restriction isnt helping with anything. So people who have an EBT card or want to abuse the system are going to say forget it I dont want to anymore cause I cant by your pie. So dumb!! Her stance isnt doing jack sh!t.
2. Im sorry but if a mother wants to treat her kid or her family or herself to pie because she works hard and sacrificed, then she has every right even if she is POOR. To say let them eat box cake is ridiculous. Wow, my mother was horrible for buying me an ice cream cake on my birthdays just because all year round we sacrificed by eating french fries for days at a time or spaghetti w. ketchup and one day she wanted her kids to feel special. What a reckless B!tch..
3. I was one of those people who lived in a condo, had a decent car and was doing fine with an EBT card. I wasnt abusing the system, it was for my son because he was a foster kid.
Yes people abuse the system but not everyone on welfare is like this and some of these comments disgust me.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by JenniferEver
This thread just kind of makes me want to buy pie for people on food stamps.
Apparently people think they should subsist on bread and water, and if they are so down that they can't have an occasional pie and people would look down on them for getting a freakin' baked good, then I have a lot to be thankful for.
Its really sad. I firmly believe unless you been there you really should STFU. but thats just my judgement.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Katareen
Posted by PrincessP
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PrincessP
This thread is so absurd, really. I only came on to see what the other poster came back to answer my question which I found the response distrubing in itself. "Life is not fair"....really?!?! i hope to God you are never in a situation where someone just says "well hey ...that sux for you".
I'm the poster who said "unfortunately, life is not fair". And it isn't. It does suck that some people are disabled through no fault of their own and rely on public assistance.
But let's say we all end up agreeing that it's unfair and let them buy their expensive farmers' market pies. Where do we draw the line after that? Most women enjoy manicures. Should we subsidize that too? After all, doesn't everyone have a right to relax and get pampered a little?
I think everyone, no matter how fiscally conservative, would agree that nobody should be going hungry. Everyone should have access to basic medical care. But when did frivolous little *luxuries* become a God-given right?
I stand by my original statement. I think we agree to disagree.
How can we seriously talk about a pie, a food item, in comparison to a manicure? And TBH...I dont even think a manicure is on the "luxury" list as well as I dont believe a pie is luxurious either. I am shocked that such basic items are considered to be such luxuries. BUT like you said, lets agree to disagree.
On a side note (not to this poster)...
I hope this baker gets some real shi!!y publicity for this. Its not like someone who didnt shop there is going to say "YAY ...she finally stopped all of welfare...I gotta shop there". But I do believe a few people that were her current shoppers might be disturbed and turn away. Happens all the time in business. Not a good business move IMO.
Luxury:
1. Something inessential but conducive to pleasure and comfort.
So in this case YES, pie is absolutely a luxury!!
Then sh!t I must have been raised in the "elite class" bc pie just doesnt do it for me like it does it for you. Again, its just a pie.
Adding: Pleasure and comfort is spending 2 weeks in Hawaii laying on the beach. Not sitting on LI eating pumpkin pie.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I admit, I was blownn away with how much my SIL gets each month for food stamps.
Her and her 4 children-$945.00 a month.
plus WIC for the younger one.
plus the 2 older ones get free breakfast and free lunch in school.
They eat very well. She is always on facebook posting foodie pics.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
I agree with the baker. I don't think this is an appropriate thing to use government money on. As many others have said, buy an Entemann's cake or a cake mix for a few dollars. Actually, even buying the ingredients and baking a cake from scratch would be cheaper. I don't think that you should suffer if you need food stamps, but a $25 organic pie sounds like a real luxury. I'm a huge foodie and I'm not cheap when it comes to my food budget. That said, I'd be hesitant to buy something like that as it seems quite overpriced.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by maybesoon
Posted by Goobster
Posted by computergirl
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I stand by my opinion on it--
Posted by SweetApril
Why can't poor people eat pie too? I think she is an ass.
They can't because they're not spending their own money. They can do whatever they want with their own income, but once they're on the taxpayers' dime, I have no problem with regulating what they purchase.
Food stamps, along with other forms of public assistance, are designed to be a TEMPORARY means of GETTING BY. Getting by does not require overpriced whoopie pies from the farmers' market. Once they get back on their feet and are spending their own income, I'm sure it will feel great to go to the farmers' market and buy some goodies.
Letting people use their EBT cards to indulge their various whims is what creates a population of abusers-- people who make government assistance into a lifestyle. What would ever compel someone to get OFF food stamps, when they can treat themselves to whatever they desire while ON them?
X 1million
So well said!
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I know people who have been on welfare their entire lives, they have more material goods and newer cars then I do. I also know elders that move of $$$ into their kids accounts and have food cards, medicaid and whatever else they,can get. Really sets me off because people like this (have $$$) do not need food stamps.
The abuse of the system is completely crazy. I too have seen tons of people who never work and get all sorts of entitlements. ( I don't mean the disabled)
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by Sash
Posted by JenniferEver
This thread just kind of makes me want to buy pie for people on food stamps.
Apparently people think they should subsist on bread and water, and if they are so down that they can't have an occasional pie and people would look down on them for getting a freakin' baked good, then I have a lot to be thankful for.
Its really sad. I firmly believe unless you been there you really should STFU. but thats just my judgement.
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
what i do not get is why and how everyone is so quick to judge her on this one pie..
we have no idea if she does this every week or if this was a special treat
i find it hard to believe if anyone was on food stamps and whatever pie this is was the kid's fav pie you would not think to get it
i am not saying people do not scam the system,of course they do
but we have no idea what this person uses on a day to day basis and imo neither does the pie seller
and to be honest i think she has no right judging or denying anyone
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Re: Baker refuses to take EBT cards...
Posted by gina409
what i do not get is why and how everyone is so quick to judge her on this one pie..
we have no idea if she does this every week or if this was a special treat
i find it hard to believe if anyone was on food stamps and whatever pie this is was the kid's fav pie you would not think to get it
i am not saying people do not scam the system,of course they do
but we have no idea what this person uses on a day to day basis and imo neither does the pie seller
and to be honest i think she has no right judging or denying anyone
It doesn't really matter as there was no real person. She was asked by the Farmers market to take EBT as payment and she said that she did not want to. There was no specific situation (that I am aware) where any "she" was denied a pie. This situation came to light because of the heated emails going back and forth from the farmers market and the woman who runs the bake shop.
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