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pinkandblue
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Ophelia
I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.
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Jess, I have yet to see someone say they are an expert. We are all ENTITLED to our opinions and views...my opinion is she should rot for what she did 
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by Ophelia
I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.
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Jess, I have yet to see someone say they are an expert. We are all ENTITLED to our opinions and views...my opinion is she should rot for what she did
Exactly.
I pointed out by reading more into this case (like a poster said SHE hadn't), she too may conclude that Casey is not mentally ill. I didn't say I was an expert or that NG or Websleuths know all of the facts.
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| Posted 12/12/08 3:21 PM |
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Ophelia
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by Ophelia
I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.
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Jess, I have yet to see someone say they are an expert. We are all ENTITLED to our opinions and views...my opinion is she should rot for what she did
I am confused about how saying that what people are writing is striking me as being "experts" is taking away ANYONE's entitlement to state their peace??? I am seriously baffled, befuddled, and confused by that...for the second post in a row.
anyhow...like I have said AD NASEUM...it's totally understandable for people to have an emotional reaction and what to rip this woman's heart out. my argument is not, and has never been, about our visceral and emotional reactions.
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| Posted 12/12/08 3:21 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Mikismom
Posted by Ophelia
I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.
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Jess, I have yet to see someone say they are an expert. We are all ENTITLED to our opinions and views...my opinion is she should rot for what she did
I am confused about how saying that what people are writing is striking me as being "experts" is taking away ANYONE's entitlement to state their peace??? I am seriously baffled, befuddled, and confused by that...for the second post in a row.
anyhow...like I have said AD NASEUM...it's totally understandable for people to have an emotional reaction and what to rip this woman's heart out. my argument is not, and has never been, about our visceral and emotional reactions.
I guess I am missing your point. What is your argument exactly?  
By you saying "I did not know there were so many experts on here", is saying to me that you think that I am purporting to be an expert which I am certainly not
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Ophelia
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Mikismom
I guess I am missing your point. What is your argument exactly?
sorry...points always get lost in the shuffle here
my point is, that just b/c we FEEL a certain way, doesn't mean the LAW agrees with us.
and that the LAW is who will determine her proper punishment based on ALL the facts...not us.
and if they don't find her case to be a capital case, it's b/c they have reason not to.
ETA: stef. what my "expert" comment should say to you is I was being slightly obnoxious and tongue in cheek
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| Posted 12/12/08 3:27 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Mikismom
I guess I am missing your point. What is your argument exactly?
sorry...points always get lost in the shuffle here
my point is, that just b/c we FEEL a certain way, doesn't mean the LAW agrees with us.
and that the LAW is who will determine her proper punishment based on ALL the facts...not us.
and if they don't find her case to be a capital case, it's b/c they have reason not to.
ETA: stef. what my "expert" comment should say to you is I was being slightly obnoxious and tongue in cheek
Oh, I agree with you there...that is why I said from the jump that I will leave the case for the justice system and I can only hope that they sentence her to a decent amount of time (even to death).
I still would like to stick the needle in her arm. I can't help it......
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| Posted 12/12/08 3:31 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
In Florida, you can be setenced to death if you are convicted of First Degree Murder. First Degree Murder is premeditated.
If what the media has portrayed to us is true, Casey Anthony researched how to kill her child, and apparently did so, with little remorse.
IMO, she deserves the death penalty.
not only did she kill a completely innocent child who was unable to defend herself, it was her OWN child.
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| Posted 12/12/08 3:43 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
I'm not sure how I feel about the death penalty- but IF she is convicted (and we do NOT have all the information- so maybe she will NOT be) I would say she's a great candidate for it.
I don't think she has any remorse or regret.
As for the mentally ill thing- I don't think people realize that you can be mentally ill and still knowingly, consciously commit terrible acts.
I believe she IS mentally ill. However she is not Psychotic. She doesn't hear voices or believe her dog is Jesus.
I believe she definitely has Antisocial Personality Disorder- she's a sociopath. I would also say she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
NEITHER of these would be an excuse for her behavior or an "insanity" plea.
I guess I'm thinking that it's possible to be both sane and mentally ill.
OK- enough babbling now that I'm contradicting myself
ETA: I just hope justice is served in someway....She should live out the rest of her days being miserable.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
very well said last 2 posts! 
Let me also add that IF she is convicted, death penalty or not, I hope she suffers just as badly as that poor, innocent defenseless little girl.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Death penalty does not cause suffering. It is humanely done. A life in prison is hell, and that is what she deserves. Why should she get off easy by being allowed to die?
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| Posted 12/12/08 4:28 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
I'm all for the death penalty for this b1tch. Once you commit the act of murder, all your rights should be taken away. You take a life, you lose your own.
I wouldn't want her to be in jail for the rest of her life. She wouldn't think about her daughter. She obviously hasn't thought of her for 6 months while she dumped her body and left her to rot. She goes out partying with her friends and then is seen during the day wiping her eyes, wearing her "have you seen my missing daughter" shirt. She's disgusting.
That poor little girl. I don't even want to think about her last hours and what kind of pain she went through. How can someone do that to such a precious little girl?
It's too bad that the death penalty is so humane. Why is that? People who murder should die peacefully?
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by mrsej
She is not mentally ill - if there was an inkling of that the court could have ordered, on its own, or at defense request, a mental examination to see if at the minimum she was fit for trial - in ny, it is known as a 730.30 exam. I have seen plently of mentally unfit people - she is not one of them. I occasionally watch Nancy Grace and she had videos of Casey speaking with her parents in jail and she is clear as a bell. Simply because a person kills someone does not make them clinically "insane or mentally insane". As someone who works in the ciriminal law profession, I fully believe in "innocent until proven guilty". however, based on what has already been released by the police and the DA, she better have some "smoking gun" b/c it doesn't look so good for her right now.
The court can order a test to see if someone is COMPETENT to stand trial. That is entirely different than mentall illness as an affirmative defense to a crime.
Just because the court finds her fit to stand trial doesn't mean that she isn't sufficiently mentally ill to use that illness as a defense. They are 2 different things.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Death penalty does not cause suffering. It is humanely done. A life in prison is hell, and that is what she deserves. Why should she get off easy by being allowed to die?
Thank you. Death is easy. Living is hard, especially in prison.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by BunnyWife
I'm against the death penalty in most cases. This case is hard. I understand why people feel like she should die but I also wonder if it will be more of a punishment to put this woman in prison for the rest of her life . Everyday she will have to think about what she has done and most likely in a solitary situation. I can't imagine she would be placed with the general population because of the risk.
From all the lies that Casey Anthony has told from day one, i don't think this girl has one single morsel of a conscience and that keeping her alive will make her think at all about what she did to her child. She's a sick, sick individual, who has no remorse or conscience or care in the world except for herself. It actually made me sick to my stomach to watch Nancy Grace last night.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
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Posted by lipglossjunky73
Death penalty does not cause suffering. It is humanely done. A life in prison is hell, and that is what she deserves. Why should she get off easy by being allowed to die?
Thank you. Death is easy. Living is hard, especially in prison.
I beg to differ that the death penalty is humanely done -- at least in so far as electrocution and leathal injection. Many experts believe both are very painful. Lethal injection LOOKS humane because the first drug given paralyzes the body. It does NOT, however, numb the body... Many experts believe it's excruciatingly painful, but the victim isn't able to scream, speak, or move at all. (Granted, no one knows for sure.)
Interestingly, many believe firing squad to be the most humane form of execution both for the victim (who dies instantly and painlessly) and the executioner -- because no one in the firing squad knows who has the blanks and who has the bullet.
Sorry for the gruesome post, just thought it was interesting.
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| Posted 12/12/08 6:34 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
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Posted by lipglossjunky73
Death penalty does not cause suffering. It is humanely done. A life in prison is hell, and that is what she deserves. Why should she get off easy by being allowed to die?
Thank you. Death is easy. Living is hard, especially in prison.
I beg to differ that the death penalty is humanely done -- at least in so far as electrocution and leathal injection. Many experts believe both are very painful. Lethal injection LOOKS humane because the first drug given paralyzes the body. It does NOT, however, numb the body... Many experts believe it's excruciatingly painful, but the victim isn't able to scream, speak, or move at all. (Granted, no one knows for sure.)
Interestingly, many believe firing squad to be the most humane form of execution both for the victim (who dies instantly and painlessly) and the executioner -- because no one in the firing squad knows who has the blanks and who has the bullet.
Sorry for the gruesome post, just thought it was interesting.
Actually I think the guillotine is the most human. It's instant death. Just a bit "messy".
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Who on here has ever actually spent time in jail for a serious crime?
Because unless anyone here has, who can - definitively say - whether or not it would be a better experience than the death penalty for the criminal? I'm not saying whether I'm in favor of the death penalty or not...I'm just saying that we can't make a judgment on what would be a better punishment for this woman.
I don't know this woman at all, and I'm not stating the following as fact or concrete information. I'm merely stating this as an alternative way to look at it. But if this woman had no remorse at all after she killed her child (based on the reports/facts/alleged information of her partying, IMing, etc.), who's to say that she'll have any remorse while sitting in a jail cell?
I just don't think ANYONE on here can make that call.
I trust our justice system will do the right thing and give this woman the appropriate punishment.
She s*cks a fatty and will rot in h3ll one way or another. But I guess saying that she'll burn in h3ll is a whole other topic of discussion.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Maybe she should sit and rot in a cell and be forced to continuously watch the last video tape of her daughter singing "please don't take my sunshine away..."
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by smdl
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Posted by lipglossjunky73
Death penalty does not cause suffering. It is humanely done. A life in prison is hell, and that is what she deserves. Why should she get off easy by being allowed to die?
Thank you. Death is easy. Living is hard, especially in prison.
I beg to differ that the death penalty is humanely done -- at least in so far as electrocution and leathal injection. Many experts believe both are very painful. Lethal injection LOOKS humane because the first drug given paralyzes the body. It does NOT, however, numb the body... Many experts believe it's excruciatingly painful, but the victim isn't able to scream, speak, or move at all. (Granted, no one knows for sure.)
Interestingly, many believe firing squad to be the most humane form of execution both for the victim (who dies instantly and painlessly) and the executioner -- because no one in the firing squad knows who has the blanks and who has the bullet.
Sorry for the gruesome post, just thought it was interesting.
Actually I think the guillotine is the most human. It's instant death. Just a bit "messy".
not if the blade doesn't go all the way through the first time...
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| Posted 12/12/08 8:36 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
as much as I want to say if it were my own kid, I'd want to kill- there is something about the death penalty that doesn't sit right with my soul. To me, killing another sentient being doesn't "right" the wrong..
I always remember those Taliban videos of them shooting people in the middle of the soccer stadium as capital punishment.. and even though a lot of those people weren't violent criminals- the whole act of it.... it just made me thing- well, how are we better... because we use the "nice" way? The "painless" way...
I think to kill violent criminals.. well, that makes us as flawed as they are.
But then again- this comes from a place of not being a victim or having a dear family member (specifically my child) be a victim.
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| Posted 12/12/08 9:35 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by SweetTooth
Actually I think the guillotine is the most human. It's instant death. Just a bit "messy".
not if the blade doesn't go all the way through the first time...
Very true, I just finished The Stranger with my class and we had this discussion.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
i found my boss when i was 17 shot dead in the head, execution style. it has scarred me for life. i had to testify and everything. seeing someone murdered in real life is much, much different than seeing it on the movie screen.
i am undecided right now as far as the death penalty b/c i have not followed the case closely.
my heart aches for that little girl.
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| Posted 12/12/08 10:49 PM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
Posted by Mikismom
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I am not against the death penalty, but in this case I feel that she shouldn't get it...it'd be an "easy way out" type of a punishment.
I think life in prison without parole is much better...let her wake-up every morning with the thought of what she did to deserve to live like this...let her live with this atrocious sin and guilt, and let her be tormented by the death of her little girl 'till she dies.
But, see that's the thing...from the way she was acting after her sweet dd went missing she has NO moral compass....she will not suffer with guilt if she gets to live, she has shown NO remourse for the loss of her dd.....
And how do we, the public, know that it wasn't all just an act?? She claims she did not kill her daughter. If she were to have walked around in mourning after Caylee died (if in fact this body is Caylee's and IF in fact she did kill her), wouldn't that have been a red flag??? Going on about her life as if she actually left the child with a babysitter fits in with the defense of not being the one responsible.
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
I'm all for her getting the death penalty, but for some reason I have a feeling that if she does get convicted, it will be life w/o paroll. which may end up causing a lot more suffering, since she is so young. (mid 20's I think).
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| Posted 12/13/08 11:58 AM |
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?
I say have a public execution, charge an admission fee. Now that would boost our economy
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