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Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

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JenBenMen
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

This "innocent til guilty" sentiment in this case is WAY over blown. And I have had legal training and still say this.

FACTS stacked against her

-IM's with guys calling her daughter a "burden"

-NOT telling anyone about the disappearance for a MONTH

-Chemicals found in her car

Come on? Is this behavior of a mother who DIDNT do it?

Honestly--she did IT or was involved in some way with whoever DID do it

She is not ill---she is GUILTY

Posted 12/12/08 1:07 PM
 
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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by JenBenMen

This "innocent til guilty" sentiment in this case is WAY over blown. And I have had legal training and still say this.

FACTS stacked against her

-IM's with guys calling her daughter a "burden"

-NOT telling anyone about the disappearance for a MONTH

-Chemicals found in her car

Come on? Is this behavior of a mother who DIDNT do it?

Honestly--she did IT or was involved in some way with whoever DID do it

She is not ill---she is GUILTY



I agree with this.

It's very hard for me to not look at her as being guilty when you have all of this evidence in your face. Almost daily since it came out that Caylee was missing.

Posted 12/12/08 1:11 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Mssissy

Posted by JenBenMen

This "innocent til guilty" sentiment in this case is WAY over blown. And I have had legal training and still say this.

FACTS stacked against her

-IM's with guys calling her daughter a "burden"

-NOT telling anyone about the disappearance for a MONTH

-Chemicals found in her car

Come on? Is this behavior of a mother who DIDNT do it?

Honestly--she did IT or was involved in some way with whoever DID do it

She is not ill---she is GUILTY



I agree with this.

It's very hard for me to not look at her as being guilty when you have all of this evidence in your face. Almost daily since it came out that Caylee was missing.



I mean cmon--any mother whoe had NOTHING to do with it would have been an hysterical mess on the news pleading for answers--oh, where was she? partying

Posted 12/12/08 1:15 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by timanda

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I have to say I am a little Chat Icon about how her potential feelings of remorse and guilt about killing her daughter are completely flushed down the toilet...

but that kid who's idiotic driving killed 2 people...his "remorse" and his itty bitty sentence was good enough there??? especially since HE too was said to be "stoic" and his "remorse" was conveyed in WORD by his attorney...not by his own actions or words.Chat Icon



Those are two different cases in my mind anyway.

That teenage driver did not kill his child and then try to cover it up, then go out with my friends and act "relieved" for the next few weeks. He acted stoic, but not carefree.

That kid made a mistake that resulted in the deaths of two people. It's terrible and it could have happened to one of us when we were younger. Can everyone honestly say that they NEVER drive over the speed limit and the ALWAYS pay 100% attention when they drive. I can't.

But I can say with a good degree of certainty that I will never murder my toddler and then act relieved and happy to be free.



Well said. I have to agree. Comparing these two doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

Posted 12/12/08 1:16 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by JenBenMen

Posted by quasi3

Someone who could do something like this to her child, is mentally ill. I am not using this as an excuse, but you are not sane if you are able to commit a crime like this. Especially since she has no remorse!

None of us can judge her, she has not be convicted of anything.

To be for or against the death penalty is a personal choice, and no one should be judged for their choice.

With that said, if she is guilty the decision should be left up to the court system.



I am sorry but she is NOT mentally ill. She was a young mother not READY for the responsibility and wanted to be out partying. That little girl was a BURDEN to her---she is not ill, just selfish




None of us have all the facts and none of us should be casting judgment on her until she is tried and convicted.

I am not a doctor to determine is she is mentally ill or a monster and selfish.

It's my OPINION that she is mentally ill to be able to do something like this ( if she did) and its your OPINION she is a monster.

Thats the wonderful thing about the country we live in, everyone can have their own OPINIONS and EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.



So do you think that every single parent that kills their own child is mentally ill?




Nope, in this case, under these conditions, something just seems off with her. I am not saying she should not be in a real prision but a mental hospital.

In my opinion something in this case does not seem right to me.

Posted 12/12/08 1:29 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by JenBenMen

This "innocent til guilty" sentiment in this case is WAY over blown. And I have had legal training and still say this.

FACTS stacked against her

-IM's with guys calling her daughter a "burden"

-NOT telling anyone about the disappearance for a MONTH

-Chemicals found in her car

Come on? Is this behavior of a mother who DIDNT do it?

Honestly--she did IT or was involved in some way with whoever DID do it

She is not ill---she is GUILTY




I did not say she did not do it.

I think we should wait for all the facts and a conviction before we decide if she should be executed.

Posted 12/12/08 1:36 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by BunnyWife

I'm against the death penalty in most cases. This case is hard. I understand why people feel like she should die but I also wonder if it will be more of a punishment to put this woman in prison for the rest of her life . Everyday she will have to think about what she has done and most likely in a solitary situation. I can't imagine she would be placed with the general population because of the risk.





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Posted 12/12/08 1:40 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by quasi3

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by JenBenMen

Posted by quasi3

Someone who could do something like this to her child, is mentally ill. I am not using this as an excuse, but you are not sane if you are able to commit a crime like this. Especially since she has no remorse!

None of us can judge her, she has not be convicted of anything.

To be for or against the death penalty is a personal choice, and no one should be judged for their choice.

With that said, if she is guilty the decision should be left up to the court system.



I am sorry but she is NOT mentally ill. She was a young mother not READY for the responsibility and wanted to be out partying. That little girl was a BURDEN to her---she is not ill, just selfish




None of us have all the facts and none of us should be casting judgment on her until she is tried and convicted.

I am not a doctor to determine is she is mentally ill or a monster and selfish.

It's my OPINION that she is mentally ill to be able to do something like this ( if she did) and its your OPINION she is a monster.

Thats the wonderful thing about the country we live in, everyone can have their own OPINIONS and EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.



So do you think that every single parent that kills their own child is mentally ill?




Nope, in this case, under these conditions, something just seems off with her. I am not saying she should not be in a real prision but a mental hospital.

In my opinion something in this case does not seem right to me.



Just curious, have you followed this case from the very beginning on say either websleuths or by watching Nancy Grace?

Posted 12/12/08 1:40 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by JenBenMen

Posted by quasi3

Someone who could do something like this to her child, is mentally ill. I am not using this as an excuse, but you are not sane if you are able to commit a crime like this. Especially since she has no remorse!

None of us can judge her, she has not be convicted of anything.

To be for or against the death penalty is a personal choice, and no one should be judged for their choice.

With that said, if she is guilty the decision should be left up to the court system.



I am sorry but she is NOT mentally ill. She was a young mother not READY for the responsibility and wanted to be out partying. That little girl was a BURDEN to her---she is not ill, just selfish




None of us have all the facts and none of us should be casting judgment on her until she is tried and convicted.

I am not a doctor to determine is she is mentally ill or a monster and selfish.

It's my OPINION that she is mentally ill to be able to do something like this ( if she did) and its your OPINION she is a monster.

Thats the wonderful thing about the country we live in, everyone can have their own OPINIONS and EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.



So do you think that every single parent that kills their own child is mentally ill?




Nope, in this case, under these conditions, something just seems off with her. I am not saying she should not be in a real prision but a mental hospital.

In my opinion something in this case does not seem right to me.



Just curious, have you followed this case from the very beginning on say either websleuths or by watching Nancy Grace?



actually nope, only from what I have read, seen on news broadcasts etc.

y do you ask?

Message edited 12/12/2008 1:47:49 PM.

Posted 12/12/08 1:45 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

She is not mentally ill - if there was an inkling of that the court could have ordered, on its own, or at defense request, a mental examination to see if at the minimum she was fit for trial - in ny, it is known as a 730.30 exam. I have seen plently of mentally unfit people - she is not one of them. I occasionally watch Nancy Grace and she had videos of Casey speaking with her parents in jail and she is clear as a bell. Simply because a person kills someone does not make them clinically "insane or mentally insane". As someone who works in the ciriminal law profession, I fully believe in "innocent until proven guilty". however, based on what has already been released by the police and the DA, she better have some "smoking gun" b/c it doesn't look so good for her right now.

Posted 12/12/08 1:51 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by mrsej

She is not mentally ill - if there was an inkling of that the court could have ordered, on its own, or at defense request, a mental examination to see if at the minimum she was fit for trial - in ny, it is known as a 730.30 exam. I have seen plently of mentally unfit people - she is not one of them. I occasionally watch Nancy Grace and she had videos of Casey speaking with her parents in jail and she is clear as a bell. Simply because a person kills someone does not make them clinically "insane or mentally insane". As someone who works in the ciriminal law profession, I fully believe in "innocent until proven guilty". however, based on what has already been released by the police and the DA, she better have some "smoking gun" b/c it doesn't look so good for her right now.




I understand; I don't think she is mentally ill, I just think in order to kill someone ( child or adult) in this fashion something is wrong with you mentally. I am not saying this should be her defense, but something to consider. Sane people don't kill.

Posted 12/12/08 1:57 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

I say death penality.. I dont want my money paying for her to live and eat and then adventually get off for good behavior. Im not for death penality on every case b/c of the whole possiblity of an innocent individual being killed and later it coming out it was someone else. But in this case.. I think its pretty clear she did it.

Posted 12/12/08 2:00 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

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Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by JenBenMen

Posted by quasi3

Someone who could do something like this to her child, is mentally ill. I am not using this as an excuse, but you are not sane if you are able to commit a crime like this. Especially since she has no remorse!

None of us can judge her, she has not be convicted of anything.

To be for or against the death penalty is a personal choice, and no one should be judged for their choice.

With that said, if she is guilty the decision should be left up to the court system.



I am sorry but she is NOT mentally ill. She was a young mother not READY for the responsibility and wanted to be out partying. That little girl was a BURDEN to her---she is not ill, just selfish




None of us have all the facts and none of us should be casting judgment on her until she is tried and convicted.

I am not a doctor to determine is she is mentally ill or a monster and selfish.

It's my OPINION that she is mentally ill to be able to do something like this ( if she did) and its your OPINION she is a monster.

Thats the wonderful thing about the country we live in, everyone can have their own OPINIONS and EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.



So do you think that every single parent that kills their own child is mentally ill?




Nope, in this case, under these conditions, something just seems off with her. I am not saying she should not be in a real prision but a mental hospital.

In my opinion something in this case does not seem right to me.



Just curious, have you followed this case from the very beginning on say either websleuths or by watching Nancy Grace?



actually nope, only from what I have read, seen on news broadcasts etc.

y do you ask?



Ahh okay. Because I think if you knew a lot of the "in depth" things, you might change your mind about her being mentally ill.

Posted 12/12/08 2:05 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by quasi3

Sane people don't kill.



I have to disagree, the news is filled with murders, rapes, etc. every single day. IMO, I'd say most of them are sane, they just don't give a shiit and/or have no reason NOT TO commit a crime. They know they'll get a lawyer to get them off or go sit in jail with their friends and some probably have a better life IN jail. I don't even watch the news that much anymore b/c I can't take seeing it all especially when they are repeat offenders who keep being set free and just commit worse and worse crimes each time.

Posted 12/12/08 2:06 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by quasi3

Posted by JenBenMen

Posted by quasi3

Someone who could do something like this to her child, is mentally ill. I am not using this as an excuse, but you are not sane if you are able to commit a crime like this. Especially since she has no remorse!

None of us can judge her, she has not be convicted of anything.

To be for or against the death penalty is a personal choice, and no one should be judged for their choice.

With that said, if she is guilty the decision should be left up to the court system.



I am sorry but she is NOT mentally ill. She was a young mother not READY for the responsibility and wanted to be out partying. That little girl was a BURDEN to her---she is not ill, just selfish




None of us have all the facts and none of us should be casting judgment on her until she is tried and convicted.

I am not a doctor to determine is she is mentally ill or a monster and selfish.

It's my OPINION that she is mentally ill to be able to do something like this ( if she did) and its your OPINION she is a monster.

Thats the wonderful thing about the country we live in, everyone can have their own OPINIONS and EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty.



So do you think that every single parent that kills their own child is mentally ill?



I know this wasn't directed at me but I have to agree with the previous poster. I think for a woman to kill her own child on propose she would have to be a sociopath. So yes. I think she is mentally ill in some way. A "normal" person is not capable of such a thing

Posted 12/12/08 2:13 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Mikismom

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I am not against the death penalty, but in this case I feel that she shouldn't get it...it'd be an "easy way out" type of a punishment.

I think life in prison without parole is much better...let her wake-up every morning with the thought of what she did to deserve to live like this...let her live with this atrocious sin and guilt, and let her be tormented by the death of her little girl 'till she dies.



But, see that's the thing...from the way she was acting after her sweet dd went missing she has NO moral compass....she will not suffer with guilt if she gets to live, she has shown NO remourse for the loss of her dd.....



Eventually she will break down...thats what usually happens to individuals incarcerated for long periods of time...I think eventually its going to hit home for her. Unless she's completely senile, which I doubt highly that this is that case here...she's just evil, selfish b i t c h!

Message edited 12/12/2008 2:28:11 PM.

Posted 12/12/08 2:27 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Not against it at all. I would say let her rot in jail though, and deal with the thought that she killed her baby and let it torture her for life...but she has no remorse whatsoever and her whole attitude and demeanor throughout the search for her daughter, I don't think she would suffer at all thinking about it, she truly to me just does not seem to care!!!

Posted 12/12/08 2:38 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

i am sure that supersleuths, beans baxter, nancy drew and nancy grace do not have ALL of the info
that law enforcement officials have.

I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.

I can understand being upset. I understand feeling an eye for an eye...the death penalty and call that...

but somewhere along the line...this thread jumped the shark and we are approaching murky waters....
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Posted 12/12/08 2:39 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

I think she should rot in prison... I don't think she deserves the death penalty.

I hope and pray that she gets beaten and tortured in prison.... I hope and pray that Nixzmary's mother gets beaten and tortured in prison.

eta: solitary confinement. Chat Icon So nevermind then... I hope she just plain rots in prison.

Message edited 12/12/2008 2:51:47 PM.

Posted 12/12/08 2:50 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

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Is there anyone who feels she should not get the death penalty? It's too bad she's in solitary confinement. I was soo hoping "internal justice" would be served within the prison systemChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



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Posted 12/12/08 2:50 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Ophelia

i am sure that supersleuths, beans baxter, nancy drew and nancy grace do not have ALL of the info
that law enforcement officials have.

I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.

I can understand being upset. I understand feeling an eye for an eye...the death penalty and call that...

but somewhere along the line...this thread jumped the shark and we are approaching murky waters....
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You are right, I'm sure LE has MORE which makes it even worse IMO.

Posted 12/12/08 2:54 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Ophelia

i am sure that supersleuths, beans baxter, nancy drew and nancy grace do not have ALL of the info
that law enforcement officials have.

I didn't realize there were so many experts on the criminal mind, criminal behavior, the justice system, and the penal code on here.

I can understand being upset. I understand feeling an eye for an eye...the death penalty and call that...

but somewhere along the line...this thread jumped the shark and we are approaching murky waters....
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I think that's stating the obvious though - pretty much everyone is aware that they don't have all the info.

I also don't think that anyone was trying to say they were an expert on criminal minds either.

Where is Dead Horse? It sounds like this is going to turn into a thread on opinions v. judgements v. facts again.



Posted 12/12/08 2:56 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Dead. Die. STRING HER UP!!!

This woman has done nothing but lie and steal and make every attempt to tell people that her daughter was kidnapped and she knew nothing.

Gee, I dunno, my kid is missing, lemme go get a TATTOO!!!! Or to a club, and look up "chloroform" and "neck breaking" on my computer....

THAT is not the picture of a tortured mother whose child is missing for months, 2 months before she says anything.

She should be hung, NO TRIEL, NOTHING in front of all her peers and made a true example.
And if sane people didn't kill, our jails would be empty and our psych wards full......

Posted 12/12/08 2:58 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

I guess my thing is, yes I am horrified at what happened and my gut wants to rip apart anyone who could do such a thing and if something like this happened to my kid I probably would.

However, I have hope that the justice system and the ultimate justice system will deal with her appropriately.

I fight my carnal desire for revenge and blood because it is not for me to make that decision.


ETS wording

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Posted 12/12/08 3:01 PM
 

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Re: Casey Anthony...does anyone have an argument as to WHY she should not get the death penalty?

Posted by Jenn627



I think that's stating the obvious though - pretty much everyone is aware that they don't have all the info.

I also don't think that anyone was trying to say they were an expert on criminal minds either.

Where is Dead Horse? It sounds like this is going to turn into a thread on opinions v. judgements v. facts again.






I guess what I am saying isn't being conveyed to you properly...

I think that anyone saying we have enough evidence not only to convict, but to justify KILLING this woman BEFORE she goes to trial says something...it says something to ME anyway.

I guess you can say I am shocked by that "opinion"

Posted 12/12/08 3:06 PM
 
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