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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by peanutbutter2
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let's all be honest with ourselves here...this was not a kid whose mom treats her once in a while.
how on earth can you make that assumption?
Yeah, I completely agree.
That is a huge leap to make from a tiny snapshot of a family's life.
If I was walking out of that store and you made that assumption, you would be completely wrong...so how can you say it's true for them? You can't.
Yup - I'd like to add, my brother, at 10 years old was, well, I call him a meatball. He was FAT, VERY VERY over weight. He wasn't tall, he looked sweaty, etc. But, he played soccer, played baseball, played outside every day... and at the time, me, a string bean of a 13 year old was eating seconds and he'd barely finish his first plate. Both my mom and him were overweight. My brother had his growth spurt at 12, and bam, immediately was a skinny kid.
But, because I was the girl, guess who was the one who got ridiculed in the house because she was still hungry? Guess which one had their food regularly monitored, and guess which one at 17 started hiding food in her room and gained 40 pounds?!?!? Yup, that would be me.
Conversations like this are important. Health is key, eating healthy is VITAL, but fat-shaming is what actually causes worsening food issues and weight gain.
I don't believe that the OP meant to cause all this drama, but it's an important conversation to have when so many young (and old) women and girls are suffering from eating disorders, including over-eating.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
I also wanted to add that it's not just a female disease.
I know plenty of men with eating disorders.
At both ends of the spectrum too....
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by allIwant
Omg I can't believe this post turned into so much drama!!
Honestly not my intention! In my original post I even admit maybe I'm being naive.
We all judge, we all have options etc heck half of you are judging me of being "high and mighty"
Judge away... I didn't bf my kids long, I use Johnson & Johnson products, I don't buy organic milk, my floors are dirty
The fact is I saw a morbidly obese girl who has mobility issues because of her weight. She had a donut and a slurpee..perhaps if she had only one of those I wouldn't have thought anything. But I did. It made me sad. That was my point. Boy or girl I would have felt the same.
 to anyone I offended!
For what it's worth, after reading your original post I didn't think you were being judgmental or "high and mighty." I usually try to assume people (IRL and on this site) have good intentions and I think 90% of the time they do.
Childhood obesity is a major problem. I too feel bad for children and adults who are fighting this disease. Especially children, who can not really take ownership of their health.
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Childhood obesity...this got me today
I think the OP was saying it made her sad which to me is empathetic not ridiculing. I work with obese children and some times the parent is also obese and sometimes not. I work with the whole family not just the child. I teach better habits but of course treats are allowed in moderation. Unfortunately yes the obesity rate in children has risen and it is sad. I see first hand the reasons why...lack of education, convenience due to two parent working homes, busy lives, etc. Genetically speaking if one parent is obese the child has a 40% chance of being obese as well although it doesn't mean they have to be. Meaning its just a higher risk but with new habits and education they can be a healthy weight. The reality is that convenience food is all around us and can be very unhealthy and even a little addictive. But the choices start at home and it is very important to try to emulate good habits to our children. Will it happen all the time? No. That's not reality. Sometimes were going to grab something junky. As long as most of the time we can make better choices than someone can hopefully avoid a serious weight issue.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by bunnyluck
Posted by allIwant
Omg I can't believe this post turned into so much drama!!
Honestly not my intention! In my original post I even admit maybe I'm being naive.
We all judge, we all have options etc heck half of you are judging me of being "high and mighty"
Judge away... I didn't bf my kids long, I use Johnson & Johnson products, I don't buy organic milk, my floors are dirty
The fact is I saw a morbidly obese girl who has mobility issues because of her weight. She had a donut and a slurpee..perhaps if she had only one of those I wouldn't have thought anything. But I did. It made me sad. That was my point. Boy or girl I would have felt the same.
to anyone I offended!
For what it's worth, after reading your original post I didn't think you were being judgmental or "high and mighty." I usually try to assume people (IRL and on this site) have good intentions and I think 90% of the time they do.
Childhood obesity is a major problem. I too feel bad for children and adults who are fighting this disease. Especially children, who can not really take ownership of their health.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
I knew someone would get upset with this post.
I'm sorry.... Donuts and slurpees are horrible poison. That being said, every few months I'll buy one for my DS. I don't deprive him. He only asks every few months and I'll rarely say no.
He's thin and athletic. We are all health conscious and none of us really do junk food. A bag of chips lasts so long in our house eventually I need to chuck it because it goes stale. That's the extent of junk in our house. That being said, I'll never be "thin" thin no matter how much I workout or what I eat, but I can easily gain 10 lbs without blinking.
That being said, I feel a morbidly obese person... Adult or child.... Should not be eating donuts and slurpees at all. Flame me, tell me I'm judgmental, etc. I have seen obese people do nothing but consume large quantities of crap. If a mother and daughter are waddling out of the place with a slurpee in one hand and a donut in another... That's not a rare treat after dieting all week (and rewarding with food like that is counterproductive anyway). I doubt they have some rare metabolic condition or are eating veggies 24/7. I get what people are trying to do to prevent the judgment, but no. Sorry. No. My dad had a major heart attack at 37, and lost his twin brother to heart disease at 47. I know what bad eating habits can do. I know what they look like.
I can easily have a heart condition, or diabetes, if I start to fool myself into thinking I can be heavy and healthy.
A thin person can get away with a piece of junk once in a while if he or she is living a fit and healthy lifestyle.
If it was a matter of aesthetics, then I say be all about that base bout that base... But there is no way a morbidly obese individual (I'm not talking 20 lbs overweight... I'm talking over 50 lbs overweight) will ever be healthy. It starts with putting down that donut.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by Dani
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I feel that the OPs words have been twisted and turned to creat drama.
I don't see her as judging or fat shaming.
I sW someone stating how sad she felt that a 12 year old child was so overweight she could not walk well, and how she hoped that the parent might try to chNge that with better choices for both of them.
I have Bout 20lbs to loose. I know full well the choices I have made Nd make. My very hard work and commute schedule.
No one judges anyone for giving your kids mcdonalds, and pizza. On this threD people hVe said that they do. And that's ok. None of us are perfect in our lives. We are busy an wish we could eat better.
Her observation is that it made her sad the child seems to be following in the steps of the mother.
anyone who lashed out the OP and who has has struggled with obesity should actually better understand where she was coming from. shes worried for this child who has not been taught healthy habits. let's all be honest with ourselves here...this was not a kid whose mom treats her once in a while.
those of you who struggle with weight should AGREE with the sympathy that the OP has for this child. weight/food issues mostly start from your upbringing and are harder to break if this is how you were raised.
she was not shaming or insulting YOU, and that's how everyone seemed to react to the post.
I should add I grew up overweight. When I was about 11 a boy pointed me out to his mom saying "look how fat she is!"
I also was teased as a teenager when I was fat. I get it,
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by lcherian
Growing up, my parents never controlled or dictated what we ate. I ate nothing but processed junk food, fast food was a regular occurrence, and I could finish off my Halloween candy in a day or two. People used to always say to me, "you're so lucky, you can eat whatever you want and stay so skinny." I weigh 105 pounds. But the Standard American Diet finally caught up with me in my twenties and thirties. I was very fatigued, my joints were achy, I developed seasonal allergies and skin issues, I was constantly bloated and constipated, my brain was foggy, and I didn't feel as mentally sharp as I used to.
Two years ago, I learned about the processed food industry and watched some very eye opening food documentaries. My life has not been the same since. I now know why I was feeling like crap. Just goes to show that a person can look healthy on the outside, but be unhealthy within.
I will admit, I catch myself noticing what other people have in their shopping carts at the grocery store, regardless of how they look on the outside. When I see a cart full of processed foods, I'm not judging the person, but I'm angry at the system. Specifically, the FDA, big Ag/food manufacturers and the healthcare industry who all have a hand in the obesity and chronic illness epidemics facing our country. I don't blame the person who is addicted to junk food--I blame the entities who have manufactured food in such a way that our bodies become addicted and dependent on it from a physical and emotional standpoint.
So op, I see where you are coming from. The Standard American Diet is not good for anyone, thin or overweight. Do we all occasionally enjoy an unhealthy indulgence? Of course. But the reality is, we are eating way too many nutrient void foods, and not enough whole, healthy, non-processed foods.
This times 100000
I don't envy skinny people who eat crap. It bothers me just as much.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
So for some of you, I should be judged if I EVER have a unhealthy food because of how I look. That's great. If I ever meet you in real life, please leave me alone. Maybe you should just leave every overweight person who eats something unhealthy once in awhile alone because we don't need your fake garbage.
If you can judge me for my image, and if you can judge two people based on two seconds of their lives, then I guess I can judge some of you as pretentious, rude sheep based on what you have written here.
I am done with these boards for awhile. Some of the behavior on here is cruel and highly disturbing. Look in the mirror, realize you aren't perfect, and get over yourself and your egotistical mania.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by lipglossjunky73
This times 100000
I don't envy skinny people who eat crap. It bothers me just as much.
Who has time to worry about or care about what people they don't even know are eating?!? 
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by peanutbutter2
So for some of you, I should be judged if I EVER have a unhealthy food because of how I look. That's great. If I ever meet you in real life, please leave me alone. Maybe you should just leave every overweight person who eats something unhealthy once in awhile alone because we don't need your fake garbage.
If you can judge me for my image, and if you can judge two people based on two seconds of their lives, then I guess I can judge some of you as pretentious, rude sheep based on what you have written here.
I am done with these boards for awhile. Some of the behavior on here is cruel and highly disturbing. Look in the mirror, realize you aren't perfect, and get over yourself and your egotistical mania.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by lipglossjunky73
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That being said, I feel a morbidly obese person... Adult or child.... Should not be eating donuts and slurpees at all. Flame me, tell me I'm judgmental, etc. I have seen obese people do nothing but consume large quantities of crap. If a mother and daughter are waddling out of the place with a slurpee in one hand and a donut in another... That's not a rare treat after dieting all week (and rewarding with food like that is counterproductive anyway). I doubt they have some rare metabolic condition or are eating veggies 24/7..
How the hell do you know that's not a rare treat? Or that they have some rare metabolic condition?
This thread makes me sad - sad that people have nothing better to do than to worry about what other people have in their grocery carts or what they are eating. I never ever have noticed what another person was putting in their grocery carts. I live my life as happily and healthily as I can. I worry about the health of my family and friends. I volunteer with a program that helps young girls with their body image. I would never feel the need to shame people I see at 7-11 and I don't need to post about how super healthy I eat on a message board to make myself feel good about myself.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
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Posted by lipglossjunky73
This times 100000
I don't envy skinny people who eat crap. It bothers me just as much.
Who has time to worry about or care about what people they don't even know are eating?!?
Seriously. And that was my whole point, like if you're taking the time out to create an LIF thread about a fat lady eating a donut, ur a jerk imo. Lol sorry but that's how I see it. It's one thing to think in your head ugh that stinks that the little girl has a weight problem and seems to have an unhealthy role model. It's another thing to be bothered by it so much that you run to your computer and start this thread. I also think some of the comments like obese people have no right to ever eat a donut, are straight up malicious.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
So anyone who is overweight can't ever have a treat? Ever? So if you know that someone overweight is going to be at a birthday party do you deny them a piece of cake? Sounds extreme but that's what some of these posts are making it sound like. How sad. 
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by JME78
Posted by lipglossjunky73
This times 100000
I don't envy skinny people who eat crap. It bothers me just as much.
Who has time to worry about or care about what people they don't even know are eating?!?
Seriously. And that was my whole point, like if you're taking the time out to create an LIF thread about a fat lady eating a donut, ur a jerk imo. Lol sorry but that's how I see it. It's one thing to think in your head ugh that stinks that the little girl has a weight problem and seems to have an unhealthy role model. It's another thing to be bothered by it so much that you run to your computer and start this thread. I also think some of the comments like obese people have no right to ever eat a donut, are straight up malicious.
 I know right! But noooooo, clearly this is an empathetic post 
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| Posted 9/21/14 10:35 PM |
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
I wasn't going to write again but I feel like I need to say one more thing.
I am a physical therapist who works with children.
Physical therapists use observation (not judgement) as a very important tool.
In pt school we were taught to use our observation skills throughout our day to better our knowkedge.
So each and everytime I am in public I am observing (not judging) people. Observing their posture, observing their gait, observing kids developmental milestones to help me become better at what i do. I may see an elderly man in a walker that doesn't quite for him right, I may see a little boy with a gross motor delay that is just learning to walk. I often wonder what their future will be like.
This time I saw a girl that in my precessional opinion was having difficulties walking due to her weight. It stuck with me like other individuals in the past have. I wondered what her future would be like...would she become a mom herself, a grandma and how would her weight affect her later in life or would she become helathier and would her mobility issues disappear. No I didn't run right to my computer it stuck with me and I posted about it. Maybe it stuck me more because I have a dd I don't know.
So call me malicious, call me high and mighty, say I have no life. I've apologized so can we just please stop posting on this thread!!!!
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Some of these posts are thought provoking and not malicious IMO which is why I am still replying.
I think people run to devices with stranger things to post about....this just happens to be a sensitive topic in general for some, which is why it blew up.
I know I can be sensitive to certain topics because of what I do for a living and when I've made comments about stuff not necessarily being what it seems, I've gotten called some choice things as well and even the token diabetic type comments have come out.
Try not to take it to heart.
Any of you.
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Childhood obesity...this got me today
Say what you want. Some of us have had to experience the horrible consequences of bad food choices and obesity, so it strikes some of us differently.
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| Posted 9/22/14 7:54 AM |
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Adults make their own choices. Children do not.
And it's completely normal for someone to see a child who us wasting away, obsese, sunburned beyond recognition and in the sun, etc., and get sad.
Could there be some extenuating circumstances? Sure. Always. But 1) we go on a lot less when we make countless assumptions in life (and surely on here); 2) She only felt sad in her head and shared it. The mom and daughter were not shamed at all; and 3) She showed concern for a helpless child. She didn't look a grown woman up and down nastily in pilates class.
I mean, yes--you can have a problem and have it not show. BUt when a problem clearly shows on a child (something is wrong when a child is obese--whatever it is)--and a parent is doing the opposite of helping it--well, yes. Who wouldn't feel sad?
Just curious, if the OP said that she saw a child sunburned beyond recognition and laying out in the sun with her mother, would we judge her for being sad? Adults make their own choices. Children do not.
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Childhood obesity...this got me today
Maybe it's because I'm getting older or have more to worry about these days, but I simply don't give a hoot about who thinks what about me. I could stand to lose more than a few lbs too. I just don't cAre that much what some stranger thinks.
I'm not diminishing those who felt badly here though.
Every single person has a vice and/or a malfunction. Smoking. Gambling. Drinking. Drugs. Food. Caffeine. Workaholics to avoid family and life. Anxiety. Sometimes the malfunctions lead to an addictive behavior (when I get stressed, I over eat). My point is , everyone has something. Which I think is what some people were trying to point out. But no one will Change unless they want to do so, kwim?
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
i must admit, this post was stuck in my head all weekend.
we were supposed to go get ice cream with DS (as a treat) on Saturday. After a morning of soccer, hiking in the park, and clothes shopping. we did not go. and this post had a lot to do with it.
i denied my DS a treat because I kept on thinking that if anyone saw my DH and me walking out of that store they would judge us and feel "sad" for our son. DH and I are both obese. DS is not. He is muscular, and fit, and very active. But I knew that if they saw us walking with ice cream, we would be judged and considered bad parents teaching their child bad eating habits.
DS and I walk across the 7-11 parking lot each day to catch our bus home. now, every time we do, i'll be wary of people thinking we are walking out of there after buying junk food. (for the record, the one time we did go in, we bought 2 waters and a banana)
this post may not have been meant to be malicious, but for those of us struggling to lose weight and be a better example to our kids, it is fat-shaming and hurtful.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by JME78
Posted by lipglossjunky73
This times 100000
I don't envy skinny people who eat crap. It bothers me just as much.
Who has time to worry about or care about what people they don't even know are eating?!?
Right? When I am food shopping I barely have the time or presence of mind to worry about what's in my cart, much less anyone else's- fat, thin, or otherwise.
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Childhood obesity...this got me today
To the OP- I know you didn't mean anything bad when you started this thread, but you really can't assume that the child will have 'life long health issues' by just a 2 minute glimpse into her life.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
Posted by allIwant
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Well said Goobster
I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone and I apologize if I did.
My kids (and I ) eat all he junk mentioned on this thread so I don't want people to think I'm this crazy health nut that judges everyone.
Perhaps if this girl had only a slurped and not both a slurpee and a donout I wouldn't have thought twice.. I don't know
Again I apologize if I offended anyone
Honestly, I don't think it mattered WHAT this girl was eating, I think, for you, it mattered that both were large.... I don't think that you would have thought twice if they were "skinny" (note I write skinny not healthy). I'm also curious if you would have thought the same if it were a father and son? As a society, we have such double standards for men and women.
I can't say that the same thing wouldn't have flitted through my mind, but I'm a big girl and understand that it's not always so black and white. I also believe that, while there are choices we can all make every day, it is definitely more expensive to eat healthy than to eat crap. That's why obesity is so closely tied to socioeconomic issues - if you are poorer, you are more likely to be obese for a variety of reasons, one of which is lack of access to healthier options.
To answer your questions
Yes I would have thought the same thing it it were father and son...I would feel sad that the boy had trouble even walking and sad thinking about his future
If it were two skinny people I would think wow how can they eat like that and be so thin! I'd be jealous
I wasn't going to comment on this thread, bc I struggle with my weight and my DD is not a skinny kid- and I do try to make a healthy balance in our lives, but it's tough. My dr. says not to worry too much about DD, because she does eat pretty healthy and she's very active. She only drinks water, occassionaly milk and occassionaly apple juice. She eats tons of fruit. I don't even buy junk food. I cook healthy food.
However, this sentence:
If it were two skinny people I would think wow how can they eat like that and be so thin! I'd be jealous
makes me angry. a slurpee and donut is not healthy at all. So, because the child is thin, it's okay for them to put that garbage into their bodies?
We should be promoting HEALTHY LIFESTYLES, not being thin.
I am overweight, have been for years. My BFF is underweight. always has been. SHe eats JUNK. I eat healthy. Her cholesterol, triglicerides, blood pressure, blood sugar, etc are all higher than mine.
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Re: Childhood obesity...this got me today
I haven't read through all of the responses on here, but I don't see how anyone can be offended by this. I have struggled with weight my whole life and see nothing wrong with what OP wrote. Morbidly obese children should not be having a donut and a slurpee - I don't care what activity they did that day or if they ate only vegetables all day - a donut and a slurpee are more calories than any child should have in an entire day. The parent should be teaching their child healthy eating habits, and they obviously are not if the child is obese at such a young age. Yes, an occasional treat is fine, but not a donut AND a slurpee for a child - even if they aren't struggling with their weight IMO.
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