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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by mamaprox2

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This whole "controversy" is really agitating me.

If the zoo delayed in reacting or tried tranquilizing the gorilla first and that kid was killed, the public outrage would be enormous. Every animal expert I have seen giving commentary on this is 100% supportive of the zoo's decision. The peanut gallery needs to take a seat.

Speaking of the peanut gallery, I wonder how many of the critics are parents. If they are a parent, I wonder how often, if at all, they take their small child out in public. Anyone that has taken their kid anywhere, especially a place that is exciting and stimulating like a zoo or a carnival or an amusement park, etc., knows how fast your kid can escape you and fall out of sight. Any parent who says they have never ever lost sight of their kid is a liar. The way this mother is being villainized is disgraceful.

This whole incident is a terrible tragedy but it was an accident. That's that.



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thank you ... i was thinking when i heard this which of my two boys could escape me that fast ... it is very hard to bring little kids out at that age and younger and except them to stay with you... I am going to disney in August and thinking of getting a back pack with a rope for my younger one (1 1/2) who refuses to hold anyones hand when we walk (working on it every day)



My kids were in strollers until 4. No 1 1/2 yr old should be walking in public, especially Disney. Not only is it dangerous that they could run away, it is a bother to others around you that have to make their way around a parent and child just learning to walk.

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blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read

I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.

And according to some these people are shit parents

That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun

And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.

She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him

The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.

But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy



There is a big difference of your kids fooling around and saying they are going to Disney and a child standing in front of a gorilla cage and saying he wants to go in there. You don't ignore that.

Posted 5/31/16 8:28 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Momof3boys

I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?

For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?

Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!

I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.



Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.

Posted 5/31/16 8:30 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by justbeachy

Posted by gina409

I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read

I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.

And according to some these people are shit parents

That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun

And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.

She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him

The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.

But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy



Yep. Long gone are the days of "it takes a village" and supporting one another.

Glad I don't surround myself with people who are ready to crucify another fellow mother.

Karma is a you-know-what for those sanctimommies.



The problem with that is that people took that phrase as if I don't feel like watching my kid or can't because I have too many other distractions, I will just rely on others. That is not what it was intended to mean.

Posted 5/31/16 8:32 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Katareen

Posted by Momof3boys

Posted by Jugglemom

I have a story...

When my kids were 3 and 5 we went to Disney and were at the hotel pool area. I was alone with the kids as my DH at the last minute had to take a later flight be of work. We were in the splash area and the 3 of us went to the poolside snack bar to get drinks. I was holding their hands the entire time. When they put our drinks on the counter I let go of their hands for literally 1-2 seconds so that I could pick up the drinks. In that second my DS disappeared!! And we were near the pool! I panicked! Freaked out and started yelling for him. Immediately told a lifeguard and another lifeguard was already walking him towards me. It could have been tragic. I did everything right except let go for that 1 second to get the drinks.

People could say "she shouldn't have been alone with them" etc etc but the truth is its easy to be a Monday morning quarterback or to think it would never happen to you. Or to think that somehow our parenting is so perfect that it puts us above accidents but the fact is tragic accidents happen everyday and they are just that accidents. So instead of patting ourselves on the back for our obvious parental superiority maybe we should say there but for the grace of God go I.

Also, I think it's easier for parents of 1 child or parents of kids that have a greater age gap to judge because frankly those situations are easier.



I agree! Unless you have multiple kids close in age you shouldn't judge.



But isn't this a personal choice?? I spaced my children so that I could have a better handle on situations where I'm alone with them in public (which is very often).
If I wasn't confident, they'd be strapped in a triple stroller.



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Posted 5/31/16 8:40 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by Katareen

Posted by Momof3boys

Posted by Jugglemom

I have a story...

When my kids were 3 and 5 we went to Disney and were at the hotel pool area. I was alone with the kids as my DH at the last minute had to take a later flight be of work. We were in the splash area and the 3 of us went to the poolside snack bar to get drinks. I was holding their hands the entire time. When they put our drinks on the counter I let go of their hands for literally 1-2 seconds so that I could pick up the drinks. In that second my DS disappeared!! And we were near the pool! I panicked! Freaked out and started yelling for him. Immediately told a lifeguard and another lifeguard was already walking him towards me. It could have been tragic. I did everything right except let go for that 1 second to get the drinks.

People could say "she shouldn't have been alone with them" etc etc but the truth is its easy to be a Monday morning quarterback or to think it would never happen to you. Or to think that somehow our parenting is so perfect that it puts us above accidents but the fact is tragic accidents happen everyday and they are just that accidents. So instead of patting ourselves on the back for our obvious parental superiority maybe we should say there but for the grace of God go I.

Also, I think it's easier for parents of 1 child or parents of kids that have a greater age gap to judge because frankly those situations are easier.



I agree! Unless you have multiple kids close in age you shouldn't judge.



But isn't this a personal choice?? I spaced my children so that I could have a better handle on situations where I'm alone with them in public (which is very often).
If I wasn't confident, they'd be strapped in a triple stroller.



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I'm not touching the issue of when people choose to have their kids! If we are going to start judging that too then I'm not sure where we go from there. People have a million reasons why they have their children when they do and frankly unless they are asking me for money it is none of my business. Perhaps they are older and don't have the luxury of time or perhaps they are having twins.

The issue as I see it is not what the appropriate amount of spacing between children is but rather the general lack of empathy and the belief that one's way is superior. Ironically, I think anyone can look at any single person on this board and rip them and their decisions apart for a million reasons because I am certain beyond a doubt that there is no one on here that is perfect.

Posted 5/31/16 8:51 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

I cannot believe we need to space our kids apart in a more "responsible" manner now. Priceless. What about a pp with twins?!

Posted 5/31/16 8:57 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by Momof3boys

I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?

For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?

Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!

I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.



Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.



There's that lack of empathy again. Wouldn't the world be a much nicer place if we just assumed she was a great mom who made a mistake until we learn otherwise?

Posted 5/31/16 8:57 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Hofstra26

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Also, from what I understand it was like a wire split rail fence with some bushes in front. Not like a 12 foot fence he had to scale, he literally crawled under the rail, onto some shrubs and fell into the moat.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/timeline-events-child-fell-gorilla-110358744.html

it also doesn't mean people are shit parents.....if they have their eye on their kid 99.9% of the time, they can be vigilant and protective and all it takes is ONE TIME, one single moments 1% of 100% of the time for something like this to happen.




He had time to run off, go thru bushes, climb a fence, and fall into a gorilla habitat. If my kids ran off, they'd make it two inches before I'd be on them. At the end of the day, the fault lies with the parent. Period. You won't convince me otherwise. I'm sick of this day and age where nobody is held accountable for any of their actions. He fell into a gorilla cage for God sake!!!!!................ She failed as a parent!



Im probably a little late since I didn't get thru the whole thing but the zoo really should have made it safer because there are dumb ass parents and crazy suicidal people. No one should be able to get into the gorilla habitat that easily. It's just so irresponsible of the zoo.

Posted 5/31/16 9:00 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Anecdotally I notice that some of the harshest critics of the mother (here and on my Facebook feed) either only have one child or two that are very spaced apart. From what I read this woman was with several young children. Sorry but it's way harder to keep an eye on several toddlers than it is one toddler or a 9 year old and a 5 year old or something. This story really hit home because I have triplet three year old boys (how inconvenient and irresponsible of me!) one of whom is mildly autistic and completely fascinated with water. We recently went to the queens zoo and he tried SEVERAL times to enter exhibits to get to the water. I was on him like white on rice but it was stressful and frightening as hell. Fortunately the queens zoo does not have gorillas, but we could have easily come across a pissed off quail ;)

This could have easily been me, but I'm glad those of you who can easily manage one child one one older child and one younger would have felt comfortable judging me.

Seriously, I worry about karma wayyyyy too much to ever go off about what a perfect mom I am and how something like this would NEVER happen to me. I wish I could be as convinced of my superiority as some of you are.

Eta - I posted this before reading the replies - but I now see several of you honed in on the same thing - that the most judgmental here likely have never been out in public managing several small children.

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Posted 5/31/16 9:01 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Eireann

I cannot believe we need to space our kids apart in a more "responsible" manner now. Priceless. What about a pp with twins?!



Seriously.

Posted 5/31/16 9:03 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Eireann

I cannot believe we need to space our kids apart in a more "responsible" manner now. Priceless. What about a pp with twins?!




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I really can't with some of these comments

Posted 5/31/16 9:03 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read

I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.

And according to some these people are shit parents

That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun

And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.

She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him

The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.

But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy



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Posted 5/31/16 9:03 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by phoenix913

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by Momof3boys

I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?

For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?

Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!

I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.



Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.



There's that lack of empathy again. Wouldn't the world be a much nicer place if we just assumed she was a great mom who made a mistake until we learn otherwise?




Thank you

Posted 5/31/16 9:04 PM
 

blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by phoenix913

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by Momof3boys

I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?

For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?

Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!

I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.



Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.



There's that lack of empathy again. Wouldn't the world be a much nicer place if we just assumed she was a great mom who made a mistake until we learn otherwise?



No, I am just tired of parents not taking responsibility for their children.

I would love to know what she said on Facebook that she took down. I am still trying to see if she has prior child neglect cases on her too.

Posted 5/31/16 9:05 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by gina409

I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read

I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.

And according to some these people are shit parents

That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun

And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.

She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him

The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.

But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy



There is a big difference of your kids fooling around and saying they are going to Disney and a child standing in front of a gorilla cage and saying he wants to go in there. You don't ignore that.[/QUOTE


I would love to poll this and see how many parents would actually believe their kid would take off and go if they said that

Posted 5/31/16 9:05 PM
 

blessedmama
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by Hopefulmama

Anecdotally I notice that some of the harshest critics of the mother (here and on my Facebook feed) either only have one child or two that are very spaced apart. From what I read this woman was with several young children. Sorry buts way harder to keep an eye on several toddlers than it is one toddler or a 9 year old and a 5 year old or something. This story really hit home because have triplet three year old boys (how inconvenient and irresponsible of me!) one of whom is mildly autistic and completely fascinated with water. We recently went to the queens zoo and he tried SEVERAL times to enter exhibits to get to the water. I was on him like white on rice but it was stressful and frightening as hell. Fortunately the queens zoo does not have gorillas, but we could have easily come across a pissed off quail ;)

This could have easily been me, but I'm glad those of you who can easily manage one child one one older child and one younger would have felt comfortable judging me.

Seriously, I worry about karma wayyyyy too much to ever go off about what a perfect mom I am and how something like this would NEVER happen to me. I wish I could be as convinced of my superiority as some of you are.

Eta - I posted this before reading the replies - but I know see several of you honed in on the same thing - that the most judgmental here likely have never been out in public managing several small children.



And some of us who have kids who are spaced apart still did not go out when they were younger as they didn't feel it was safe enough to chase after 2 or more kids. Common sense has left the building in the past few years. You can't have it all.

Posted 5/31/16 9:08 PM
 

gina409
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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by phoenix913

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by Momof3boys

I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?

For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?

Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!

I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.



Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.



There's that lack of empathy again. Wouldn't the world be a much nicer place if we just assumed she was a great mom who made a mistake until we learn otherwise?



No, I am just tired of parents not taking responsibility for their children.

I would love to know what she said on Facebook that she took down. I am still trying to see if she has prior child neglect cases on her too.




Would you feel the same if a mom let go of her daughters hand in a store and she was abducted

Would you be ripping her a new one too

Posted 5/31/16 9:08 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

All I keep hearing everywhere is where was the mom.

What about the dad?

And that's all I have to say. It happened, it's sad. Look - so many zoos are in America. So many visitors. This is so rare. So very rare.



I was actually just thinking the same thing. Apparently we know that the mom was putting the other kid in the stroller. Where the hell was the dad???

Posted 5/31/16 9:09 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by gina409

I'm seriously flabbergasted by some of the things I have read

I'm so glad so that so many can take their kids out and they never have gotten away. But you know what that's not always the case. And it happened everyday. In many places. Parks. Supermarkets. Malls. Zoos.

And according to some these people are shit parents

That's a harsh harsh statement to make. Calling all her years of parenting out bc she lost site of one while buckling. In another. Yep. Bc of this her kids should be taken away,she's a lousy parent,can't control her kids. And everything else under the sun

And as for the kid told her he was going to climb in,well my kids tell me they are going to Disney every day. Do I believe them.

She turned around he was gone. Everyone is acting like she kicked back and said ehhhh they will find him

The lack of empathy is scary. Scary bc it is coming from other mothers. Who while this may not ever happen to them,you would think they would know better than anyone how hard a job this is. How overwhelming. How things can change in a second.

But no. We shame her. We are our own worst enemy



There is a big difference of your kids fooling around and saying they are going to Disney and a child standing in front of a gorilla cage and saying he wants to go in there. You don't ignore that.[/QUOTE


I would love to poll this and see how many parents would actually believe their kid would take off and go if they said that




I would.

Posted 5/31/16 9:09 PM
 

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Cincinnati Zoo incident

I had an incident with my son a few weeks ago while visiting my parents. Was I a bad parent. Yes that day I was. Am I generally a bad parent no I don't think so but others might. But I fully own that in that moment I was a bad parent. And in this woman's case this day IMO she was. Is she a bad parent all the time I have no clue but her kid ended up in a gorilla cage and I'm sorry that falls squarely on her. My kid ended up in a pool without his swimmie is 100% my fault. We just need to take responsibility for our actions.

I really hope she does not take action against the zoo.

Posted 5/31/16 9:13 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by mamaprox2

Posted by FirstMate

This whole "controversy" is really agitating me.

If the zoo delayed in reacting or tried tranquilizing the gorilla first and that kid was killed, the public outrage would be enormous. Every animal expert I have seen giving commentary on this is 100% supportive of the zoo's decision. The peanut gallery needs to take a seat.

Speaking of the peanut gallery, I wonder how many of the critics are parents. If they are a parent, I wonder how often, if at all, they take their small child out in public. Anyone that has taken their kid anywhere, especially a place that is exciting and stimulating like a zoo or a carnival or an amusement park, etc., knows how fast your kid can escape you and fall out of sight. Any parent who says they have never ever lost sight of their kid is a liar. The way this mother is being villainized is disgraceful.

This whole incident is a terrible tragedy but it was an accident. That's that.



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thank you ... i was thinking when i heard this which of my two boys could escape me that fast ... it is very hard to bring little kids out at that age and younger and except them to stay with you... I am going to disney in August and thinking of getting a back pack with a rope for my younger one (1 1/2) who refuses to hold anyones hand when we walk (working on it every day)



My kids were in strollers until 4. No 1 1/2 yr old should be walking in public, especially Disney. Not only is it dangerous that they could run away, it is a bother to others around you that have to make their way around a parent and child just learning to walk.



I'm sorry. What?! No 1 1/2 year old should be walking in public? That is an absolutely absurd statement.

Posted 5/31/16 9:14 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by gina409

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by phoenix913

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by Momof3boys

I have three kids VERY close in age! Just wondering if those who judge have more than 1 or 2 and just the age gap is?

For those who have multiples and singletons (all under Three or Four)....just curious as to your thoughts?

Not sure how many kids this mom had with her, but it's very hard to keep your eyes on all. Unless maybe you have eyes on the back of your head!

I am not the perfect mom (who is??), but I watch my three young kids very very closely when in public and when you have a crying baby and two more under three years old, it's quite difficult. I don't enjoy taking all of mine places alone. It's very stressful for me. If they are at a park, who do you run after and who do you turn your back on for that split second? It sucks. I usually leave one of mine at home with my husband for their safely and my sanity.



Hence the reason why some of us spaced our kids as we knew it wouldn't be a walk in the park and knew how much we would be able to handle things. I am sure all 4 of this woman's kids are very young. I don't know about her but the husband is a convicted felon.



There's that lack of empathy again. Wouldn't the world be a much nicer place if we just assumed she was a great mom who made a mistake until we learn otherwise?



No, I am just tired of parents not taking responsibility for their children.

I would love to know what she said on Facebook that she took down. I am still trying to see if she has prior child neglect cases on her too.





Would you feel the same if a mom let go of her daughters hand in a store and she was abducted

Would you be ripping her a new one too



Yep as once you let your kids hand go, you better darn well have your eye on your child the entire time.

Posted 5/31/16 9:14 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by lululu

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

All I keep hearing everywhere is where was the mom.

What about the dad?

And that's all I have to say. It happened, it's sad. Look - so many zoos are in America. So many visitors. This is so rare. So very rare.



I was actually just thinking the same thing. Apparently we know that the mom was putting the other kid in the stroller. Where the hell was the dad???



How do we even know he was with her. Maybe he was with his parole officer at that time lol

Posted 5/31/16 9:15 PM
 

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Re: Cincinnati Zoo incident

Posted by evrythng4areason

Posted by blessedmama

Posted by mamaprox2

Posted by FirstMate

This whole "controversy" is really agitating me.

If the zoo delayed in reacting or tried tranquilizing the gorilla first and that kid was killed, the public outrage would be enormous. Every animal expert I have seen giving commentary on this is 100% supportive of the zoo's decision. The peanut gallery needs to take a seat.

Speaking of the peanut gallery, I wonder how many of the critics are parents. If they are a parent, I wonder how often, if at all, they take their small child out in public. Anyone that has taken their kid anywhere, especially a place that is exciting and stimulating like a zoo or a carnival or an amusement park, etc., knows how fast your kid can escape you and fall out of sight. Any parent who says they have never ever lost sight of their kid is a liar. The way this mother is being villainized is disgraceful.

This whole incident is a terrible tragedy but it was an accident. That's that.



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thank you ... i was thinking when i heard this which of my two boys could escape me that fast ... it is very hard to bring little kids out at that age and younger and except them to stay with you... I am going to disney in August and thinking of getting a back pack with a rope for my younger one (1 1/2) who refuses to hold anyones hand when we walk (working on it every day)



My kids were in strollers until 4. No 1 1/2 yr old should be walking in public, especially Disney. Not only is it dangerous that they could run away, it is a bother to others around you that have to make their way around a parent and child just learning to walk.



I'm sorry. What?! No 1 1/2 year old should be walking in public? That is an absolutely absurd statement.



In a crowded Disney park, no.

Posted 5/31/16 9:16 PM
 
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