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COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS EDited in 1st post with another article

COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Study Implicates Disruption of Genes Regulated by Early Experience



Many of the seemingly disparate mutations <http://www.nimh.nih.gov/science-news/2007/tiny-spontaneous-gene-mutations-may-boost-autism-risk.shtml> recently discovered in autism <http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/autism-spectrum-disorders-pervasive-developmental-disorders/index.shtml> may share common underlying mechanisms, say researchers supported in part by the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). The mutations may disrupt specific genes that are vital to the developing brain, and which are turned on and off by experience-triggered neuronal activity.



A research team led by Christopher Walsh, M.D., Ph.D., and Eric Morrow, M.D., Ph.D., of Harvard University, found two large sections missing on chromosomes in people with autism and traced them to likely inherited mutations in such genes regulated by neuronal activity. They report their findings in the July 11, 2008 issue of Science. The study was also supported in part by the NIH's National Center for Research Resources, National Human Genome Research Institute, Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child and Human Development, and the National Institute on Neurological Disorders and Stroke.



The study breaks new ground for complex disorders like autism, taking advantage of a shortcut to genetic discovery by sampling families in which parents are cousins. The researchers found genes and mutations associated with autism in 88 families from the Middle East, Turkey and Pakistan in which cousins married and had children with the disorder.



"The emerging picture of the genetics of autism is quite surprising. There appear to be many separate mutations involved, with each family having a different genetic cause," explained NIMH Director Thomas R. Insel, M.D. "The one unifying observation from this new report is that all of the relevant mutations could disrupt the formation of vital neural connections during a critical period when experience is shaping the developing brain."



Earlier studies had suggested that the individually rare mutations are present in at least 10 percent of sporadic cases of autism, which is the most common form.



The researchers used a technique that pinpoints from a relatively small group of families genes responsible for disorders that can be amplified by parenthood among relatives, which can increase transmission of recessive <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002052.htm#Definition> diseases. Evidence had hinted at such transmission in autism, and the large amount of genetic information obtainable from such families reduced the need for a much larger sample including many families with multiple affected members.



The ratio of females to males with autism - normally one female to four males - was less lopsided in such families in which parents share a common recent ancestor, suggesting a doubling of the rate of autism, due to recessive causes on non-sex-linked <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002051.htm> chromosomes. Also, autism-linked spontaneous deletions and duplications of genetic material were relatively uncommon in these families, suggesting recessive inherited causes.



The researchers found multiple different genetic causes of autism in different individuals with little overlap between the families in which parents shared ancestry. Yet a few large inherited autism-linked deletions, likely mutations, in a minority of families stood out. The largest turned out to be in or near genes regulated, directly or indirectly, by neuronal activity.



"Autism symptoms emerge at an age when the developing brain is refining the connections between neurons in response to a child's experience," explained Walsh. "Whether or not certain important genes turn on is thus dependent on experience-triggered neural activity. Disruption of this refinement process may be a common mechanism of autism-associated mutations."


EDITED To ADD another article - this is why I would not worry about the amnio test - because the diagnosis depends on how the brain reponds to experiences and processes information - the test could NEVER be definitive in utero - here is something about middle eastern families and autism - but the part about the brain is fascinating and what I wanted to put out regarding this fear.....
Autism may interfere with the brain’s ability to adapt to experience early in development, according to a study published today in Science that uncovers several new risk genes for the disorder1.

Because the brain relies on experiences, such as seeing or hearing, to fine-tune its connections early in life, any loss of plasticity would derail brain development.

Based on a study of 88 families in the Arabic Middle East, Turkey and Pakistan, a team of researchers led by Harvard University’s Christopher Walsh identified several genes, which may all be involved in turning nerve cell responses triggered by experience into substantial changes in the levels of certain proteins in the brain. In essence, this process allows experiences to sculpt the brain.

When these genes are mutated, as they are in some people with autism, the brain loses this adaptability.

“There are elaborate mechanisms to ensure that the production of proteins used to make and break synaptic connections keeps up with demand,” says Mark Bear, professor of neuroscience at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. This new study, he says, supports the idea that “out-of-control protein synthesis at synapses — either too much or too little — is a cause of autism.”

Walsh and his colleagues initially set out to discover whether autism is a recessive disorder.

Recessive disorders result when a child inherits one disabled copy of a gene from each parent. The parents are only ‘carriers’ of the disease, and have one working copy and one disabled copy. Because this double hit of disease genes in the child is rare, the researchers upped their odds of finding them by studying people with a history of autism in their families in regions where marriage between first or second cousins is common.

“All of us carry about a half a dozen silent mutations,” notes Walsh, chief of genetics at Children’s Hospital Boston. “But parents who have shared ancestry tend to carry the same silent mutations as each other.”

Using a technique called ‘homozygosity mapping,’ the team found double deletions in individuals with autism in 5 of the 88 families.

The deletions are large and rare, and absent in thousands of controls. “They're like a smoking gun there,” Walsh says. “They just present themselves as soon as you take your first look at the data.”

As expected for a recessive disorder, each parent carries one copy of the deletion, and unaffected siblings either have no deletions or carry one copy.

“Their evidence strongly suggests that homozygosity of these deletions is sufficient to cause autism,” says John Rubenstein, professor of psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco.

Diverse disorder:
The deletions are diverse, located in different regions of the genome in each family. This diversity is a recurring finding in autism genetics, which has so far implicated individually rare mutations.

Walsh has noted a similar phenomenon in other developmental brain disorders, such as mental retardation. “It’s very rare to find two kids who have the same gene involved,” he says. “And so I expected autism to behave exactly the same way.”

One deletion eliminates a gene called c3orf58, which encodes a protein involved in localizing other proteins within cells. Other deletions affect enhancers, which control the genes’ on-off switches.

These enhancers target PCDH10, a gene involved in the growth of axons, and NHE9, which encodes a sodium-hydrogen exchanger important for maintaining ion concentrations within cells.

Protein trafficking, axon outgrowth, and ion exchange are diverse and seemingly unrelated cellular functions. But the researchers found that the expression of all of these genes increases in response to nerve cell activity.

This discovery was “completely serendipitous,” says Walsh, and arose from a chance conversation with his Harvard colleague Michael Greenberg.

Greenberg’s work traces the molecular pathway that translates brain activity into changes in gene expression, which, through protein synthesis, can then lead to real effects downstream, such as synapse maturation.

“It’s an intricate process involving many genes,” says Greenberg. “It may be subtle abnormalities in that process which will be found to be a root of autism.”

Greenberg says fewer than five percent of all genes are regulated by neuronal activity, but after hearing Walsh’s talk at an Autism Speaks symposium in January he realized that several of the genes in Walsh’s study belong to this select group.

“[Greenberg] said, ‘Your genes, they're all on our list,” recalls Walsh. “Then the sparks started flying.”

Different mutations in autism might interfere in this molecular pathway at different points, says Walsh.

There is some evidence supporting this hypothesis: one component of the pathway is MECP2, the gene mutated in Rett syndrome2.

“[This] might be a way of unifying, maybe not all, but many different autism mutations into a common mechanism that might still represent a therapeutic avenue,” Walsh says.

Restoring gene expression and protein production to normal levels might be one way to treat autism. Bear and his colleagues have used this approach to reverse symptoms in a mouse model of fragile X syndrome3, a disorder characterized by autism. Another group has done the same in a mouse model of Rett syndrome4.




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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?

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Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....

Posted 7/10/08 8:12 PM
 

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Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



I was thinking the SAME thing! Great article!

Posted 7/10/08 8:16 PM
 

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?

Posted 7/10/08 8:21 PM
 

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?



YES - the implications are mind boggling!

Posted 7/10/08 8:25 PM
 

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Posted by Scared710

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?



YES - the implications are mind boggling!




I absolutely agree. Chat Icon

Posted 7/10/08 8:28 PM
 

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Thank you Liza. This is what I have felt all along.

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Posted by colesmom

Posted by Scared710

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?



YES - the implications are mind boggling!




I absolutely agree. Chat Icon



That kinda really freaks me out too. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

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Posted by Melbernai

Posted by colesmom

Posted by Scared710

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?



YES - the implications are mind boggling!




I absolutely agree. Chat Icon



That kinda really freaks me out too. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



ME too, I think its would be a sad day is that happened as its a risk I think, not a diagnosis at that stage no?

And it CAN be cured as we have seen with some of the more recent celebrities coming round with their stories.

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

It's great that they may be getting closer to understanding the mechanisms of autism.

VERY scary to me that someday they can detect autism through amnio. WHY? Because as a spectrum disorder you have so many levels. With proper help and intervention many of these childred diagnosed with PDD or other forms of autism are mainstreamed and leading very normal lives. It's amazing.

It scares and upsets me that people would choose to terminate after amnio results because their child may be on the spectrum...just the THOUGHT of this becoming reality really upsets me. My son has a few things that could qualify him for being on "the spectrum" and I just can't picture my life without him. To me he is perfect and although no one suspects autism in his case, I know many families with children on the spectrum...most you woudln't know anything was different and they are happy and amazing children.

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by dm24angel

Posted by Melbernai

Posted by colesmom

Posted by Scared710

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?



YES - the implications are mind boggling!




I absolutely agree. Chat Icon



That kinda really freaks me out too. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



ME too, I think its would be a sad day is that happened as its a risk I think, not a diagnosis at that stage no?

And it CAN be cured as we have seen with some of the more recent celebrities coming round with their stories.



EXACTLY. I think the most that could be established from an amnio would be "risk" BUT it would prob be unknown and could be a risk for a hundred of other neurological disorders...

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Posted by dm24angel

And it CAN be cured as we have seen with some of the more recent celebrities coming round with their stories.



I have to say that I disagree. I don't believe that autism can be cured (yet)- rather, it can be managed.

Also- the chromosomal abnormality is just a piece. There is SOMETHING in our environment triggering development of autism in some children. I'm curious (I'll have to go back and reread) if this chromosomal abnormality was found in any typically-developing children. OR were all children with this abnormality placed SOMEWHERE on the spectrum.

For example, the amnio cannot tell the severity of Down Syndrome (just it's presence), is this the same thing?

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Unfortunately there is no cure for autism. There is TREATMENT. Educational and behavioral treatment that can do amazing things. But no cure. Anyone who sells a cure or touts something as a cure is doing a great disservice to families. Autism is pervasive and a series of global delays. It is not a disease that you point to and say "there it is." so these studies are making small discoveries and I doubt it will get to the point where it can be seen in utero although it happens there. Autism is NOT a disease, so the word cure doesn't fit and it angers the autism community.

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by Porrruss

Posted by dm24angel

And it CAN be cured as we have seen with some of the more recent celebrities coming round with their stories.



I have to say that I disagree. I don't believe that autism can be cured (yet)- rather, it can be managed.



I agree. I am happy that people are seeing improvements in their children through treatment, and I think it's a case of "positive thinking" when folks like Jenny McCarthy say their kids are cured.

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Posted by lipglossjunky73

Unfortunately there is no cure for autism. There is TREATMENT. Educational and behavioral treatment that can do amazing things. But no cure. Anyone who sells a cure or touts something as a cure is doing a great disservice to families. Autism is pervasive and a series of global delays. It is not a disease that you point to and say "there it is." so these studies are making small discoveries and I doubt it will get to the point where it can be seen in utero although it happens there. Autism is NOT a disease, so the word cure doesn't fit and it angers the autism community.



"cure" is not the word I would use, I dont know enough. Im using the "word" people out there right now are using.

Some Dr's DO feel Autism is a disease, Im sure you know that being in the field.....I dont, but I also dont have a medical degree and so my opnion doesnt matter much either.

I think the thing is when you say there can be a cure more is done to find it, versus finding a "treatment".....and Im for whatever "terminology" makes the most progress.....

I dont think fighting over semantics helps....All I want is RESEARCH..call it whatever you want.

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

When I saw the report about this they described it as an "on/off" switch in the brain and that in people with autism the switch is "off," but therapy and treatment can help "flip" the switch.

Posted 7/11/08 8:39 AM
 

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

I think the problem with the word "cure" is that it implies that there is a one shot fix. With autism, the MOST frustrating aspect is that what works wonders for ONE child might not work for ANY others. So I don't think the findings of this study will lead to a "cure"

In the case of this article, we are looking at possible etiology, the origin of where autism begins. Perhaps this will help to develop a screening process- much like the ultrascreen/AFP.

Posted 7/11/08 8:53 AM
 

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thanks for postingChat Icon

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

I'm on my BlackBerry so its hard to quote. I am not arguing. I am passionate. It just baffles me that we have gotten to a point where we will listen to Jenny McCarthy and take that as word and say researchers and doctors are crap. Not to say that they know everything, or even anything, but I have to say, as soon as I hear, "well, Joe celebrity said...." it really floors me. And scares me. The word cure may seem like semantics, but to many families, its the holy grail. And If they hang on to cure, they search and search for it, and put less effort into the true treatment that will help their children. Not all families, but enough to concern me. And enough for me to feel the need to always bring awareness to this baffling disorder. If I heard a doctor call it a disease, it would concern me. I haven't encountered doctors that have referred to autism as a disease.

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Thank you for posting this. I know there will be some who will disagree with me - but I think if you can show that a child might be at risk of developing autism - then parents and dr's can watch the child closely and get them the help that they need early which I understand in many cases can make all the difference.

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?




I am glad that researchers have found some evidence that it is genetic / chromosomal.
Yet, the implications of this scare me. Amnio's are NOT 100%. Of course my mind is racing now thinking of all the women who will terminate pregnancies b/c they get results from an amiino that are not 100% accurate. Thinking of this becoming a reality in the next few years, literally breaks my heart. Chat Icon Chat Icon

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by dandr10199

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?




I am glad that researchers have found some evidence that it is genetic / chromosomal.
Yet, the implications of this scare me. Amnio's are NOT 100%. Of course my mind is racing now thinking of all the women who will terminate pregnancies b/c they get results from an amiino that are not 100% accurate. Thinking of this becoming a reality in the next few years, literally breaks my heart. Chat Icon Chat Icon




Amnios ARE 100% accurate for testing for chromocomal abnormalities. Ultrascreen/AFP are not as they are SCREENINGS for chromosomal abnormalities.

Posted 7/11/08 10:21 AM
 

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Re: COMMON MECHANISMS MAY UNDERLIE AUTISM'S SEEMINGLY DIVERSE MUTATIONS

Posted by Porrruss

Posted by dandr10199

Posted by colesmom

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Porrruss

VERY interesting. I wonder- with the large portions of chromonsomes missing, would it be possible to determine autism risks through amnio?



Thats probably where they are trying to go with this....



Does this scare you?




I am glad that researchers have found some evidence that it is genetic / chromosomal.
Yet, the implications of this scare me. Amnio's are NOT 100%. Of course my mind is racing now thinking of all the women who will terminate pregnancies b/c they get results from an amiino that are not 100% accurate. Thinking of this becoming a reality in the next few years, literally breaks my heart. Chat Icon Chat Icon




Amnios ARE 100% accurate for testing for chromocomal abnormalities. Ultrascreen/AFP are not as they are SCREENINGS for chromosomal abnormalities.



I was thinking it was the same as the AFP test.
I guess it is a double edged sword. I am happy that they are finding out what causes this and I am sad b/c I just know lots of women will decide to terminate if this shows up on an amnio.
I wish that science would focus on some kind of medicine to cure it, instead of focusing on genetics that would lead to terminations. KWIM? I know that genetics lead to medical innovations, I am just really conflicted about this news I guess.

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