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How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



LOLOLOL Is that what the right wing conspiracy sites are telling you to believe now?



Once again my kids are college age as their friends and friends of myself. You have no clue.



I have cousins in college right now. Friends who teach at the college level. Friends with kids currently in college. There isn't a person on this forum who doesn't understand the college experience. To think you are the only one who "gets it" is ridiculous. And unless you're up your kids a$$, you really shouldn't know much about what's going on in their classes.

Any college age student who can't handle a professor with a differing opinion from their own or who needs mommy and daddy to protect them from the big, bad world and/or fight their battles maybe should rethink college. They are obviously too immature to be there. This isn't kindergarten.



I am GLAD I have a close relationship with my children that they will tell me everything and anything (yes sometimes I don’t WANT to know things lol). Why do you think that because they are in college they wouldn’t still talk to their parents about classes?
Who said anything about not handling a professor and parents fighting their battles?
Obviously Desantis sees what is going on and if your cousins and friends kids go to college and don’t tell their parents anything, why would I believe YOU know what is going on?



This has nothing to do with having a close relationship with your kids and everything to do with young adults maturing and growing up. If a student is uncomfortable with a professor's teaching methods or a college's ideologies they can drop the class or transfer out. The moron governor of FL doesn't get to dictate how a college level class should be taught. Leave that to the trained professionals.

Furthermore, stop trying to pretend like this is some widespread problem at the college level. It's not. Most of it is fabricated BS right up there with all the whiny right wing weirdos who think public schools are trying to "indoctrinate" their kids into some "liberal agenda" . lol Ridiculous nonsense.



You keep believing that.



You aren't doing your children any good by trying to fight their battles for them when it comes to issues with their professors. Are you going to call their employer the first time they make a rude remark or something your child might find offensive?

I would love to hear how that one goes. Your kid doesn't like what they are being taught, it's time to be an adult and make a choice......put up with it until the class is done or drop the class or switch schools.





Who said anyone was fighting their kids battles? Desantis is stepping in as this has become an issue. A bigger issue than people realize and obviously don’t care about. I bet though if your kid came home and turned into a die hard Trump fan you would have an issue with it.

Posted 6/27/21 7:53 AM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

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How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



Nope. Disagree with you 100%. I also have a stepson who graduated from college last year and never felt that way. Students are encouraged to question things. And if a student has a problem or issue with something THEY a re the ones that should be addressing in, not mommy and daddy. College students are adults and should be treated as such by their parents



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Parents should have no say in their child’s UNIVERSITY education. That is the student’s job.




Lololol. It’s obvious you have no clue not being a parent.



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You act like a professor would talk to you if you went to your children’s professor.

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*Again*, you are NOT involved in your child’s UNIVERSITY education. And that’s probably the answer you would get from a professor, too. So you being a parent does not give you ANY more weight in this argument. It doesn’t give you any more weight in life, regardless. Chat Icon So cut it with “but I’m a parent.” Yes, congrats. You had sex, gave birth, and raised a human. This has nothing to do with an adult’s university education.



I would never go to a professor as well as most parents and that is why Desantis is taking this into his own hands.
It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.
Kids brains don’t fully form until 25 so that is WAY after college. 18 is not some magic age of just turning into an adult. They still need guidance and advice from their parents and I think you always do no matter what age you are.

Posted 6/27/21 7:59 AM
 

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How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



LOLOLOL Is that what the right wing conspiracy sites are telling you to believe now?



Once again my kids are college age as their friends and friends of myself. You have no clue.



I have cousins in college right now. Friends who teach at the college level. Friends with kids currently in college. There isn't a person on this forum who doesn't understand the college experience. To think you are the only one who "gets it" is ridiculous. And unless you're up your kids a$$, you really shouldn't know much about what's going on in their classes.

Any college age student who can't handle a professor with a differing opinion from their own or who needs mommy and daddy to protect them from the big, bad world and/or fight their battles maybe should rethink college. They are obviously too immature to be there. This isn't kindergarten.



I am GLAD I have a close relationship with my children that they will tell me everything and anything (yes sometimes I don’t WANT to know things lol). Why do you think that because they are in college they wouldn’t still talk to their parents about classes?
Who said anything about not handling a professor and parents fighting their battles?
Obviously Desantis sees what is going on and if your cousins and friends kids go to college and don’t tell their parents anything, why would I believe YOU know what is going on?



This has nothing to do with having a close relationship with your kids and everything to do with young adults maturing and growing up. If a student is uncomfortable with a professor's teaching methods or a college's ideologies they can drop the class or transfer out. The moron governor of FL doesn't get to dictate how a college level class should be taught. Leave that to the trained professionals.

Furthermore, stop trying to pretend like this is some widespread problem at the college level. It's not. Most of it is fabricated BS right up there with all the whiny right wing weirdos who think public schools are trying to "indoctrinate" their kids into some "liberal agenda" . lol Ridiculous nonsense.



You keep believing that.



You aren't doing your children any good by trying to fight their battles for them when it comes to issues with their professors. Are you going to call their employer the first time they make a rude remark or something your child might find offensive?

I would love to hear how that one goes. Your kid doesn't like what they are being taught, it's time to be an adult and make a choice......put up with it until the class is done or drop the class or switch schools.





I’m starting to think she is one of “those” parents that goes down to talk to professors. Thankfully, there are privacy laws that stop that, but, wow, so embarrassing for the child.




I would never do that and honestly tried not to even in high school unless necessary. I will help out for certain things and colleges have always been very nice and helpful. Kids still need help with things in life and 18 is not a magic age where they can figure everything out.

Some parents do all the time though with things they should not so it is nothing new and has been happening for years.

Posted 6/27/21 8:04 AM
 

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It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.

Posted 6/27/21 8:13 AM
 

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It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.

Posted 6/27/21 8:21 AM
 

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It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.



Obvious that I have not been around a lot of 18 year olds??? Uh, ok, sure…

Anyway, back to the OP. Kids aren’t being indoctrinated at universities. They can’t even read the syllabus half the time. Chat Icon.

Posted 6/27/21 8:42 AM
 

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How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



LOLOLOL Is that what the right wing conspiracy sites are telling you to believe now?



Once again my kids are college age as their friends and friends of myself. You have no clue.



I have cousins in college right now. Friends who teach at the college level. Friends with kids currently in college. There isn't a person on this forum who doesn't understand the college experience. To think you are the only one who "gets it" is ridiculous. And unless you're up your kids a$$, you really shouldn't know much about what's going on in their classes.

Any college age student who can't handle a professor with a differing opinion from their own or who needs mommy and daddy to protect them from the big, bad world and/or fight their battles maybe should rethink college. They are obviously too immature to be there. This isn't kindergarten.



I am GLAD I have a close relationship with my children that they will tell me everything and anything (yes sometimes I don’t WANT to know things lol). Why do you think that because they are in college they wouldn’t still talk to their parents about classes?
Who said anything about not handling a professor and parents fighting their battles?
Obviously Desantis sees what is going on and if your cousins and friends kids go to college and don’t tell their parents anything, why would I believe YOU know what is going on?



This has nothing to do with having a close relationship with your kids and everything to do with young adults maturing and growing up. If a student is uncomfortable with a professor's teaching methods or a college's ideologies they can drop the class or transfer out. The moron governor of FL doesn't get to dictate how a college level class should be taught. Leave that to the trained professionals.

Furthermore, stop trying to pretend like this is some widespread problem at the college level. It's not. Most of it is fabricated BS right up there with all the whiny right wing weirdos who think public schools are trying to "indoctrinate" their kids into some "liberal agenda" . lol Ridiculous nonsense.



You keep believing that.



You aren't doing your children any good by trying to fight their battles for them when it comes to issues with their professors. Are you going to call their employer the first time they make a rude remark or something your child might find offensive?

I would love to hear how that one goes. Your kid doesn't like what they are being taught, it's time to be an adult and make a choice......put up with it until the class is done or drop the class or switch schools.





Who said anyone was fighting their kids battles? Desantis is stepping in as this has become an issue. A bigger issue than people realize and obviously don’t care about. I bet though if your kid came home and turned into a die hard Trump fan you would have an issue with it.



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Posted 6/27/21 9:07 AM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

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It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.




So are you saying 18 year olds today are dumber then we were at 18?

Like is this "brain doesn't develop until 25" a new phenomenon?

Posted 6/27/21 9:14 AM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

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It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.



I was married at 22, moved to another state into my own apartment, paid my own bills, lived my own life and stopped needing my parents to guide me long before I did all of that and age 25.

Speaking as a parent, raising kids today is not that different. At all.

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Posted 6/27/21 10:59 AM
 

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WW's condescension is out in full force today. It's best to ignore it.

This is part of a blatant effort of right wing nutjobs to stifle the truth.

The fear of CRT... the fear of criticizing this country... the fear of facing the harm that has been done....

The extreme voter suppression.

It all ties in together. Right wing lunatics are terrified and working diligently to increase their power by suppressing the vote and silencing the truth because that is the only way they will do so since their policies do not solve any of our problems.

They cannot win without cheating.

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WW's condescension is out in full force today. It's best to ignore it.

This is part of a blatant effort of right wing nutjobs to stifle the truth.

The fear of CRT... the fear of criticizing this country... the fear of facing the harm that has been done....

The extreme voter suppression.

It all ties in together. Right wing lunatics are terrified and working diligently to increase their power by suppressing the vote and silencing the truth because that is the only way they will do so since their policies do not solve any of our problems.

They cannot win without cheating.



The right should be terrified. The Republican party is dead. The Reagan and McCain Conservatives are long gone. Replaced with tin foil hats and screams of "don't take my guns!" "don't take my freedoms!" "you anti Christ people who won't blindly pledge to the government". They are PSYCHOPATHS.

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How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



If it's such a big problem then don't send you kid to that college. College is a choice.



Funny as I have heard from different friends from different colleges so it was just not one.

Birds of a feather flock together. Your leanings and beliefs seek out those that confirm them. That is why you think this is such a wide spread problem.

Posted 6/27/21 12:30 PM
 

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How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



LOLOLOL Is that what the right wing conspiracy sites are telling you to believe now?



Once again my kids are college age as their friends and friends of myself. You have no clue.



I have cousins in college right now. Friends who teach at the college level. Friends with kids currently in college. There isn't a person on this forum who doesn't understand the college experience. To think you are the only one who "gets it" is ridiculous. And unless you're up your kids a$$, you really shouldn't know much about what's going on in their classes.

Any college age student who can't handle a professor with a differing opinion from their own or who needs mommy and daddy to protect them from the big, bad world and/or fight their battles maybe should rethink college. They are obviously too immature to be there. This isn't kindergarten.



I am GLAD I have a close relationship with my children that they will tell me everything and anything (yes sometimes I don’t WANT to know things lol). Why do you think that because they are in college they wouldn’t still talk to their parents about classes?
Who said anything about not handling a professor and parents fighting their battles?
Obviously Desantis sees what is going on and if your cousins and friends kids go to college and don’t tell their parents anything, why would I believe YOU know what is going on?



This has nothing to do with having a close relationship with your kids and everything to do with young adults maturing and growing up. If a student is uncomfortable with a professor's teaching methods or a college's ideologies they can drop the class or transfer out. The moron governor of FL doesn't get to dictate how a college level class should be taught. Leave that to the trained professionals.

Furthermore, stop trying to pretend like this is some widespread problem at the college level. It's not. Most of it is fabricated BS right up there with all the whiny right wing weirdos who think public schools are trying to "indoctrinate" their kids into some "liberal agenda" . lol Ridiculous nonsense.



You keep believing that.



You aren't doing your children any good by trying to fight their battles for them when it comes to issues with their professors. Are you going to call their employer the first time they make a rude remark or something your child might find offensive?

I would love to hear how that one goes. Your kid doesn't like what they are being taught, it's time to be an adult and make a choice......put up with it until the class is done or drop the class or switch schools.





Who said anyone was fighting their kids battles? Desantis is stepping in as this has become an issue. A bigger issue than people realize and obviously don’t care about. I bet though if your kid came home and turned into a die hard Trump fan you would have an issue with it.



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Why not? Would you have an issue with it?

Posted 6/27/21 1:32 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21
It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.




So are you saying 18 year olds today are dumber then we were at 18?

Like is this "brain doesn't develop until 25" a new phenomenon?



Where did I say that? Twisting my words once again.

Posted 6/27/21 1:33 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21
It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.



I was married at 22, moved to another state into my own apartment, paid my own bills, lived my own life and stopped needing my parents to guide me long before I did all of that and age 25.

Speaking as a parent, raising kids today is not that different. At all.



I was 21. That was also almost 30 years ago.
It is A LOT different now to raise kids then for our parents. Why would you think it is the same?

Posted 6/27/21 1:35 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by JennP

WW's condescension is out in full force today. It's best to ignore it.

This is part of a blatant effort of right wing nutjobs to stifle the truth.

The fear of CRT... the fear of criticizing this country... the fear of facing the harm that has been done....

The extreme voter suppression.

It all ties in together. Right wing lunatics are terrified and working diligently to increase their power by suppressing the vote and silencing the truth because that is the only way they will do so since their policies do not solve any of our problems.

They cannot win without cheating.



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How would you feel if your child was being pushed into being a right wing lunatic?

Posted 6/27/21 1:43 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



If it's such a big problem then don't send you kid to that college. College is a choice.



Funny as I have heard from different friends from different colleges so it was just not one.

Birds of a feather flock together. Your leanings and beliefs seek out those that confirm them. That is why you think this is such a wide spread problem.



Interesting as a governor of an entire state thinks there is a problem but you think only a few certain people imagine it is a wide spread problem. SMH

Posted 6/27/21 1:44 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



If it's such a big problem then don't send you kid to that college. College is a choice.



Funny as I have heard from different friends from different colleges so it was just not one.

Birds of a feather flock together. Your leanings and beliefs seek out those that confirm them. That is why you think this is such a wide spread problem.



Interesting as a governor of an entire state thinks there is a problem but you think only a few certain people imagine it is a wide spread problem. SMH



DeSantis is an incompetent clown. So there's that.

Posted 6/27/21 1:56 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21
It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.



I was married at 22, moved to another state into my own apartment, paid my own bills, lived my own life and stopped needing my parents to guide me long before I did all of that and age 25.

Speaking as a parent, raising kids today is not that different. At all.



I was 21. That was also almost 30 years ago.
It is A LOT different now to raise kids then for our parents. Why would you think it is the same?



It's not really as different as you think. Every generation thinks it's so much harder and more difficult to raise kids than the generation before them but in reality, it's not. Some different challenges but overall, parenting is parenting. We're not pioneering anything here.

Message edited 6/27/2021 2:02:26 PM.

Posted 6/27/21 1:57 PM
 

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DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

I really wouldn't go by what the governor or the people of Florida claim to be true. A family in Florida was able to convince enough people that their bleach concoction was a COVID miracle cure, and he sold $1m worth. They aren't really known for being a forward thinking and educated bunch. DeSantis is a nutjob.

Posted 6/27/21 2:35 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



If it's such a big problem then don't send you kid to that college. College is a choice.



Funny as I have heard from different friends from different colleges so it was just not one.

Birds of a feather flock together. Your leanings and beliefs seek out those that confirm them. That is why you think this is such a wide spread problem.



Interesting as a governor of an entire state thinks there is a problem but you think only a few certain people imagine it is a wide spread problem. SMH



DeSantis is an incompetent clown. So there's that.



Much better than Coumo. That’s why so many people are flocking to live there.

Posted 6/27/21 2:54 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21
It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.



I was married at 22, moved to another state into my own apartment, paid my own bills, lived my own life and stopped needing my parents to guide me long before I did all of that and age 25.

Speaking as a parent, raising kids today is not that different. At all.



I was 21. That was also almost 30 years ago.
It is A LOT different now to raise kids then for our parents. Why would you think it is the same?



It's not really as different as you think. Every generation thinks it's so much harder and more difficult to raise kids than the generation before them but in reality, it's not. Some different challenges but overall, parenting is parenting. We're not pioneering anything here.



Well I will just have to agree to disagree with you on this. I have been a mother 10 years more than yourself.

Posted 6/27/21 2:55 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by windyweather21
It is sad how low you think of parents and their job that NEVER ends.



I don't think low of parents at all-- they are people like the rest of us. However, a lot of comments in this thread show how low you think of non-parents ("lololol you aren't a parent; you don't understand").

By law, they are an adult at 18. With this, comes the right to make your own decisions. It's part of the growing-up process.



It is obvious you do with your comments this past year and you obviously have not been around many 18 year olds and lived with them. You want them to start making their own decisions but like I said before, the brain doesn’t fully full until 25 so they still need parents to guide them and they will always need their advice.
It’s a lot different out there now then when we were college age.



I was married at 22, moved to another state into my own apartment, paid my own bills, lived my own life and stopped needing my parents to guide me long before I did all of that and age 25.

Speaking as a parent, raising kids today is not that different. At all.



I was 21. That was also almost 30 years ago.
It is A LOT different now to raise kids then for our parents. Why would you think it is the same?



It's not really as different as you think. Every generation thinks it's so much harder and more difficult to raise kids than the generation before them but in reality, it's not. Some different challenges but overall, parenting is parenting. We're not pioneering anything here.



Well I will just have to agree to disagree with you on this. I have been a mother 10 years more than yourself.



We are ALL aware that you THINK you know everything, have more experience and live life better than anyone. Chat Icon Get over yourself.

Posted 6/27/21 3:12 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

How many of you have kids in college?



There is enough feedback out there on the view points of a college and professors, classes etc. If it was that important to you or your child then you could have easily asked the questions or done the research prior to choosing that college or class or even professor. It's part of being an adult, which last time I checked isn't that what college is for? Giving your kids the skills necessary to become active adults in society? Including coming in contact with people who may have differing views.

Should we start making it mandatory to ask all employers to start reporting to the states which way they lean politically?



So that would be a no and you really don’t know what is going on in the classroom. Thanks.



ANYONE who has gone to college knows how college works and knows
what goes on within the walls of a lecture hall.



College is not the same as when we all went a million years ago. Once again people who have no clue and compare to their college days 20 years ago.



And you know this because you have one or two kids in college? I have a huge family and multiple family in many many many colleges...I also have immediate family who teach at colleges, are the Dean of the department. I have several clients that are professors and then those that have children in college.
You are no more knowledgeable then anyone else because you have a kid in college.



So you know how some things are being pushed on the kids. Unless you agree with not allowing students to have their own opinions anymore.
This is a big issue and many parents have complained so it is not just a one professor and one college situation.



If it's such a big problem then don't send you kid to that college. College is a choice.



Funny as I have heard from different friends from different colleges so it was just not one.

Birds of a feather flock together. Your leanings and beliefs seek out those that confirm them. That is why you think this is such a wide spread problem.



Interesting as a governor of an entire state thinks there is a problem but you think only a few certain people imagine it is a wide spread problem. SMH



DeSantis is an incompetent clown. So there's that.



Much better than Coumo. That’s why so many people are flocking to live there.



Doesn't mean he does a better job.......just means Republicans in NY don't like Cuomo

Posted 6/27/21 3:51 PM
 

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Re: DeSantis signs law requiring college faculty, students to take surveys on beliefs

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by JennP

WW's condescension is out in full force today. It's best to ignore it.

This is part of a blatant effort of right wing nutjobs to stifle the truth.

The fear of CRT... the fear of criticizing this country... the fear of facing the harm that has been done....

The extreme voter suppression.

It all ties in together. Right wing lunatics are terrified and working diligently to increase their power by suppressing the vote and silencing the truth because that is the only way they will do so since their policies do not solve any of our problems.

They cannot win without cheating.



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How would you feel if your child was being pushed into being a right wing lunatic?



AGAIN if so many parents in your social circle feel like the school is pushing their LEFT wing narrative then why would you and your chikd make the decision to send your kid to that school?

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