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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by nrthshgrl
I checked no they should have turned their back but disagree with having to show their respect to DiBlasio.
They shouldn't be turning their backs. It wasn't the time or the place. They don't have to respect him but they needed to have respect for the family of the deceased who invited DiBlasio to the funeral.
This about sums up my belief on the whole thing:
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/12/open-letter-nypd/
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First of all, I would like to say that I am pro-cop. I do believe that most of the police officers in this country are good people who do their best every day to protect the lives of the citizens they serve. But, my belief that most cops are good, does not diminish the fact that there are some who abuse their power or the fact that the entire system should be evaluated and improved.
Now having said that, I would like to talk about your disgraceful behavior on Saturday at the funeral for Officer Rafael Ramos.
Personally I found it appalling that you would use a funeral service for one of your own to make some kind of political statement. Especially after the city demanded that the protesters stop all political demonstrations until AFTER the funeral. A big deal was made that any protesting during the funeral would be absolutely disrespectful to the family of the officer killed. And you were right about that.
Now I realize that you have your issues with Mayor de Blasio, and that they started before any of these #AllLivesMatter demonstrations. Not only are you in an ongoing contentious contract dispute with City Hall, but the Mayor also openly ran on a platform of ending Stop and Frisk, and ending police corruption. So I guess I can understand how you could feel protective of your own men in blue. But what I don’t understand is why that should make you so hate-filled toward the Mayor. I mean, if you are a good honest cop, then why wouldn’t you want the bad apples removed?? And if this really is more about your contract negotiations, then shame on you for dividing the city, and much of the nation, under false pretenses.
NYPD union officials have said that the Mayor has “blood on his hands” following the murder of these two officers, and they have accused him of siding with the protesters instead of the cops. But what I fail to see here is why you have turned this into a dangerous game of ‘us against them’ when that is the very thing for which you condemn the protesters. It seems obvious to the rest of us that Mayor de Blasio was merely trying show empathy for people upset about recent cases of police brutality causing the deaths of African American citizens.
Empathizing with peaceful protesters or giving his own personal experience of what it’s like to raise a black son in New York City does NOT make him anti-cop.
You also tried to make the case that Mayor de Blasio should not even be allowed to attend funerals for fallen police officers. Why? Especially in this case of Officer Ramos, where the cop’s family actually said that they wanted the Mayor there. The family also asked that the funeral service be just about Ramos, and NOT about politics.
And so what did you do? You turned a funeral service for one of your own into a ridiculous spectacle for the world to see.. You chose to make a funeral all about you instead of the murdered cop being laid to rest. Turning your backs to Mayor de Blasio as he delivered the eulogy for Officer Ramos made you look like petty children throwing a tempter tantrum. And it did absolutely nothing to improve your image for those people who really do mistrust or dislike the police.
I have heard it over and over again that the cops blame the protesters for not only creating an atmosphere conducive to cop killings, but for also causing the divide and hatred throughout the city. So what exactly do you think your little stunt on Saturday did?? I can tell you for sure that it did nothing to calm the heated situation down or to heal the division between law enforcement and the public. But what it DID do is to exacerbate the entire situation.
Shame on you NYPD….you have literally embarrassed your entire profession and the city of New York.
I disagree with everything written here.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by McSullivan
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free expression? Come on. Do you get free expression where you work? can you go up to anyone and state your piece and expect to be employed tomorrow?
I don't know where any of you guys work, but I've had bosses, CEOs, CFOS, make bad decisions, unrealistic goals, say unhelpful things and provide a message that my (departments) function isn't valued in the past. Yes its demotivating.
If I disrespected him, how exactly would that go down? My boss would tell me, you disrespected the CEO, he is our top level BOSS, it was totally inappropriate, I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to ask/beg for my job back.....
I understand where you're coming from. The problem here is DeBlasio ran on an anti-cop agenda and a lot of his remarks threatened the safety of his police officers. Now two officers are dead. If your CEO said those things, would you ever question your safety? Might others feel empowered or emboldened to kill you?
I can understand the officers giving the mayor their backs and support them 100%.
Exactly word for word!!
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by LMFitz
If my CEO, CFO or boss makes a bad decision that de-motivates myself or my colleagues, it doesn't put my life in jeopardy. DiBlasio's words and actions undeniably put police officers' lives in jeopardy - in my opinion. That's not really an accurate comparison.
I support their silent demonstration of their frustration.
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luvmotherhood
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Nypd is not allowed to go on strike. Imagine If they could???
Good for them for turning their backs. I support 100%.
And diblasios wife was extremely disrespectful wearing JEANS.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by CSK
free expression? Come on. Do you get free expression where you work? can you go up to anyone and state your piece and expect to be employed tomorrow?
I don't know where any of you guys work, but I've had bosses, CEOs, CFOS, make bad decisions, unrealistic goals, say unhelpful things and provide a message that my (departments) function isn't valued in the past. Yes its demotivating.
If I disrespected him, how exactly would that go down? My boss would tell me, you disrespected the CEO, he is our top level BOSS, it was totally inappropriate, I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to ask/beg for my job back.....
I agree with this. I was in the AF and there was/is alot that I didnt agree on. However there's respect whether it comes from earned respect or mandatory respect for position and if you dont there are repercussions.
My issue is that the NYPD was disrespectful at funerals by turning their backs to the Mayor. And this act goes to show that the respect they so desperately want--they dont have for others.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Im neutral. What concerns me more is a headline i just read in NY times. NYPD sharply cut arrests for second week and wrote 1/10 as many summonses.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by nrthshgrl
I checked no they should have turned their back but disagree with having to show their respect to DiBlasio.
They shouldn't be turning their backs. It wasn't the time or the place. They don't have to respect him but they needed to have respect for the family of the deceased who invited DiBlasio to the funeral.
This about sums up my belief on the whole thing:
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/12/open-letter-nypd/
Copy & Paste:
First of all, I would like to say that I am pro-cop. I do believe that most of the police officers in this country are good people who do their best every day to protect the lives of the citizens they serve. But, my belief that most cops are good, does not diminish the fact that there are some who abuse their power or the fact that the entire system should be evaluated and improved.
Now having said that, I would like to talk about your disgraceful behavior on Saturday at the funeral for Officer Rafael Ramos.
Personally I found it appalling that you would use a funeral service for one of your own to make some kind of political statement. Especially after the city demanded that the protesters stop all political demonstrations until AFTER the funeral. A big deal was made that any protesting during the funeral would be absolutely disrespectful to the family of the officer killed. And you were right about that.
Now I realize that you have your issues with Mayor de Blasio, and that they started before any of these #AllLivesMatter demonstrations. Not only are you in an ongoing contentious contract dispute with City Hall, but the Mayor also openly ran on a platform of ending Stop and Frisk, and ending police corruption. So I guess I can understand how you could feel protective of your own men in blue. But what I don’t understand is why that should make you so hate-filled toward the Mayor. I mean, if you are a good honest cop, then why wouldn’t you want the bad apples removed?? And if this really is more about your contract negotiations, then shame on you for dividing the city, and much of the nation, under false pretenses.
NYPD union officials have said that the Mayor has “blood on his hands” following the murder of these two officers, and they have accused him of siding with the protesters instead of the cops. But what I fail to see here is why you have turned this into a dangerous game of ‘us against them’ when that is the very thing for which you condemn the protesters. It seems obvious to the rest of us that Mayor de Blasio was merely trying show empathy for people upset about recent cases of police brutality causing the deaths of African American citizens.
Empathizing with peaceful protesters or giving his own personal experience of what it’s like to raise a black son in New York City does NOT make him anti-cop.
You also tried to make the case that Mayor de Blasio should not even be allowed to attend funerals for fallen police officers. Why? Especially in this case of Officer Ramos, where the cop’s family actually said that they wanted the Mayor there. The family also asked that the funeral service be just about Ramos, and NOT about politics.
And so what did you do? You turned a funeral service for one of your own into a ridiculous spectacle for the world to see.. You chose to make a funeral all about you instead of the murdered cop being laid to rest. Turning your backs to Mayor de Blasio as he delivered the eulogy for Officer Ramos made you look like petty children throwing a tempter tantrum. And it did absolutely nothing to improve your image for those people who really do mistrust or dislike the police.
I have heard it over and over again that the cops blame the protesters for not only creating an atmosphere conducive to cop killings, but for also causing the divide and hatred throughout the city. So what exactly do you think your little stunt on Saturday did?? I can tell you for sure that it did nothing to calm the heated situation down or to heal the division between law enforcement and the public. But what it DID do is to exacerbate the entire situation.
Shame on you NYPD….you have literally embarrassed your entire profession and the city of New York.
I disagree with everything written here.
ditto
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by alli3131
Time and a place and IMO a funeral is not the time or the place to do anything but morn!
I strongly agree! I am not a fan of the mayor at all but this was not the time and place at all.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by limomof2
GOOD FOR THEM! This is their "protest". He still has not apologized for anything, he let protesters chant that they wanted "dead cops" and then expects them to respect him? And his wife wearing jeans to Liu's funeral is beyond disrespectful IMO.
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When people say he ran an anti cop platform/campaign, what do they mean?
I keep reading this but I'm not sure what it means. I know he was against stop and frisk, right?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by alli3131
Time and a place and IMO a funeral is not the time or the place to do anything but morn!
I agree.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by limomof2
GOOD FOR THEM! This is their "protest". He still has not apologized for anything, he let protesters chant that they wanted "dead cops" and then expects them to respect him? And his wife wearing jeans to Liu's funeral is beyond disrespectful IMO.
She is the mayor's wife and she wears jeans to such a high profile event? Seriously, what a disgrace. I wouldnt even wear jeans to a funeral, let alone if I was the NYC Mayor's wife. Doesnt she have a CLUE or any respect? Right. I see.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by nrthshgrl
I checked no they should have turned their back but disagree with having to show their respect to DiBlasio.
They shouldn't be turning their backs. It wasn't the time or the place. They don't have to respect him but they needed to have respect for the family of the deceased who invited DiBlasio to the funeral.
This about sums up my belief on the whole thing:
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/12/open-letter-nypd/
Copy & Paste:
First of all, I would like to say that I am pro-cop. I do believe that most of the police officers in this country are good people who do their best every day to protect the lives of the citizens they serve. But, my belief that most cops are good, does not diminish the fact that there are some who abuse their power or the fact that the entire system should be evaluated and improved.
Now having said that, I would like to talk about your disgraceful behavior on Saturday at the funeral for Officer Rafael Ramos.
Personally I found it appalling that you would use a funeral service for one of your own to make some kind of political statement. Especially after the city demanded that the protesters stop all political demonstrations until AFTER the funeral. A big deal was made that any protesting during the funeral would be absolutely disrespectful to the family of the officer killed. And you were right about that.
Now I realize that you have your issues with Mayor de Blasio, and that they started before any of these #AllLivesMatter demonstrations. Not only are you in an ongoing contentious contract dispute with City Hall, but the Mayor also openly ran on a platform of ending Stop and Frisk, and ending police corruption. So I guess I can understand how you could feel protective of your own men in blue. But what I don’t understand is why that should make you so hate-filled toward the Mayor. I mean, if you are a good honest cop, then why wouldn’t you want the bad apples removed?? And if this really is more about your contract negotiations, then shame on you for dividing the city, and much of the nation, under false pretenses.
NYPD union officials have said that the Mayor has “blood on his hands” following the murder of these two officers, and they have accused him of siding with the protesters instead of the cops. But what I fail to see here is why you have turned this into a dangerous game of ‘us against them’ when that is the very thing for which you condemn the protesters. It seems obvious to the rest of us that Mayor de Blasio was merely trying show empathy for people upset about recent cases of police brutality causing the deaths of African American citizens.
Empathizing with peaceful protesters or giving his own personal experience of what it’s like to raise a black son in New York City does NOT make him anti-cop.
You also tried to make the case that Mayor de Blasio should not even be allowed to attend funerals for fallen police officers. Why? Especially in this case of Officer Ramos, where the cop’s family actually said that they wanted the Mayor there. The family also asked that the funeral service be just about Ramos, and NOT about politics.
And so what did you do? You turned a funeral service for one of your own into a ridiculous spectacle for the world to see.. You chose to make a funeral all about you instead of the murdered cop being laid to rest. Turning your backs to Mayor de Blasio as he delivered the eulogy for Officer Ramos made you look like petty children throwing a tempter tantrum. And it did absolutely nothing to improve your image for those people who really do mistrust or dislike the police.
I have heard it over and over again that the cops blame the protesters for not only creating an atmosphere conducive to cop killings, but for also causing the divide and hatred throughout the city. So what exactly do you think your little stunt on Saturday did?? I can tell you for sure that it did nothing to calm the heated situation down or to heal the division between law enforcement and the public. But what it DID do is to exacerbate the entire situation.
Shame on you NYPD….you have literally embarrassed your entire profession and the city of New York.
I completely agree with everything said here!!!!
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
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Posted by limomof2
GOOD FOR THEM! This is their "protest". He still has not apologized for anything, he let protesters chant that they wanted "dead cops" and then expects them to respect him? And his wife wearing jeans to Liu's funeral is beyond disrespectful IMO.
She is the mayor's wife and she wears jeans to such a high profile event? Seriously, what a disgrace. I wouldnt even wear jeans to a funeral, let alone if I was the NYC Mayor's wife. Doesnt she have a CLUE or any respect? Right. I see.
Unfortunately it shows she just did not care.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
I agree.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
I agree with them turning their backs and although I agree that the funerals were NOT the time or place, they really don't HAVE a time or place to show their displeasure with the mayor. They can't strike, they rarely get together in masses and even rarer in front of the mayor. So while I don't think the funerals were the best places. where and when else could they have done it. It sent a message. Their heads were bowed, they were still in prayer, they are not disrespecting the officers or the families...this was not an easy decision for them. I'm sure MANY were torn about this very question.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Good for them. As for the families, I'm sure if anything they appreciated the show of solidarity.
And the mayors wife is trash for showing up the way she did.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by McSullivan
Posted by nrthshgrl
I checked no they should have turned their back but disagree with having to show their respect to DiBlasio.
They shouldn't be turning their backs. It wasn't the time or the place. They don't have to respect him but they needed to have respect for the family of the deceased who invited DiBlasio to the funeral.
This about sums up my belief on the whole thing:
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/12/open-letter-nypd/
Copy & Paste:
First of all, I would like to say that I am pro-cop. I do believe that most of the police officers in this country are good people who do their best every day to protect the lives of the citizens they serve. But, my belief that most cops are good, does not diminish the fact that there are some who abuse their power or the fact that the entire system should be evaluated and improved.
Now having said that, I would like to talk about your disgraceful behavior on Saturday at the funeral for Officer Rafael Ramos.
Personally I found it appalling that you would use a funeral service for one of your own to make some kind of political statement. Especially after the city demanded that the protesters stop all political demonstrations until AFTER the funeral. A big deal was made that any protesting during the funeral would be absolutely disrespectful to the family of the officer killed. And you were right about that.
Now I realize that you have your issues with Mayor de Blasio, and that they started before any of these #AllLivesMatter demonstrations. Not only are you in an ongoing contentious contract dispute with City Hall, but the Mayor also openly ran on a platform of ending Stop and Frisk, and ending police corruption. So I guess I can understand how you could feel protective of your own men in blue. But what I don’t understand is why that should make you so hate-filled toward the Mayor. I mean, if you are a good honest cop, then why wouldn’t you want the bad apples removed?? And if this really is more about your contract negotiations, then shame on you for dividing the city, and much of the nation, under false pretenses.
NYPD union officials have said that the Mayor has “blood on his hands” following the murder of these two officers, and they have accused him of siding with the protesters instead of the cops. But what I fail to see here is why you have turned this into a dangerous game of ‘us against them’ when that is the very thing for which you condemn the protesters. It seems obvious to the rest of us that Mayor de Blasio was merely trying show empathy for people upset about recent cases of police brutality causing the deaths of African American citizens.
Empathizing with peaceful protesters or giving his own personal experience of what it’s like to raise a black son in New York City does NOT make him anti-cop.
You also tried to make the case that Mayor de Blasio should not even be allowed to attend funerals for fallen police officers. Why? Especially in this case of Officer Ramos, where the cop’s family actually said that they wanted the Mayor there. The family also asked that the funeral service be just about Ramos, and NOT about politics.
And so what did you do? You turned a funeral service for one of your own into a ridiculous spectacle for the world to see.. You chose to make a funeral all about you instead of the murdered cop being laid to rest. Turning your backs to Mayor de Blasio as he delivered the eulogy for Officer Ramos made you look like petty children throwing a tempter tantrum. And it did absolutely nothing to improve your image for those people who really do mistrust or dislike the police.
I have heard it over and over again that the cops blame the protesters for not only creating an atmosphere conducive to cop killings, but for also causing the divide and hatred throughout the city. So what exactly do you think your little stunt on Saturday did?? I can tell you for sure that it did nothing to calm the heated situation down or to heal the division between law enforcement and the public. But what it DID do is to exacerbate the entire situation.
Shame on you NYPD….you have literally embarrassed your entire profession and the city of New York.
I disagree with everything written here.
. Same here especially the line about police brutality killing African Americans if the author was referring to the brown and garner cases.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by limomof2
Posted by Goobster
Posted by limomof2
GOOD FOR THEM! This is their "protest". He still has not apologized for anything, he let protesters chant that they wanted "dead cops" and then expects them to respect him? And his wife wearing jeans to Liu's funeral is beyond disrespectful IMO.
She is the mayor's wife and she wears jeans to such a high profile event? Seriously, what a disgrace. I wouldnt even wear jeans to a funeral, let alone if I was the NYC Mayor's wife. Doesnt she have a CLUE or any respect? Right. I see.
Unfortunately it shows she just did not care.
She's a classless POS just like her husband.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Turning their backs was a silent but powerful statement. Did they interrupt the service? No. Did they hoot and holler and shout at the mayor? No. Did they strike? No. They simply did an about face quietly for the 5 mins he spoke. Get over it. He is a piece of garbage, as is his wife. He's lucky that's all they did. He needs to step down.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by mrsboss
Turning their backs was a silent but powerful statement. Did they interrupt the service? No. Did they hoot and holler and shout at the mayor? No. Did they strike? No. They simply did an about face quietly for the 5 mins he spoke. Get over it. He is a piece of garbage, as is his wife. He's lucky that's all they did. He needs to step down.
I agree!! His wife confuses me. I was surprised when I read she was a "lesbian" before her marriage. I guess Bill is extremely open minded. I definitely can't get on board with his way of thinking for sure from personal to political matters. 
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Agree and his wife is a disgrace.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Wow, I just saw pics of how the wife was dressed. What an embarrassment,who wears wrinkled, faded jeans to a funeral ! She looks like she just rolled out of bed, disgusting and disrespectful ! Eta: I'm not a public figure and I cannot in a million years imagine dressing hat way to funeral. How hard is it to put on a suit or dress pants and a blouse ? !!
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