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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by mrsboss
Turning their backs was a silent but powerful statement. Did they interrupt the service? No. Did they hoot and holler and shout at the mayor? No. Did they strike? No. They simply did an about face quietly for the 5 mins he spoke. Get over it. He is a piece of garbage, as is his wife. He's lucky that's all they did. He needs to step down.
As you said it is a silent but powerful message. The most powerful message at a funeral should be directed at the deceased and their family. Instead of honoring the Officer as a man, friend, husband, son, father, avid golfer or painter(whatever made him happy) all focus is on this issue. It is not up to us to get over. It is his up to his family to "get over" in the event they were not comfortable with this display(which i have no idea).
I agree to the protest and disrespect to Deblasio 1000% and that he is a POS but a funeral is NOT the time or place.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
It took years to get NYC back to being one of safest big cities in the world. Things in NYC have been amazing. Having a moron for a mayor and a trashy, trashy mayor's wife will destroy the city. Thank god he's a one termer.
He came out and spoke about " funerals not be the context for that display"
How about a funeral for a murdered hero not being the context for a pair of ****** jeans? Does she not own a pair of black pants?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by LastLightGlow
I agree to the protest and disrespect to Deblasio 1000% and that he is a POS but a funeral is NOT the time or place.
I'm still a little on the fence with this...I agree that funerals should be for reflecting on the life of the deceased. I also agree with the officers turning their back on the mayor that didn't stay neutral and bring this city together. But if these officers did not perform this display of silent protest at the funeral - when/where would be possible?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
I understood it the first time, this time I am on the fence. I would really like to hear how the officer's families felt about it.
Their opinion of the act is really the only one that matters
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Does anyone know if the families are required to let the mayor speak at the funeral?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Pomegranate5
Does anyone know if the families are required to let the mayor speak at the funeral?
It's their choice.
You aren't required to do anything.
You aren't even required to have a "cop's funeral"
My DH had said if he was ever killed in the line of duty he didn't want ANY of that.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Pomegranate5
I completely see their point, but I think someone's funeral is not the time or the place to make that kind of a statement. Then again, my opinion might change depending on how the grieving families felt about it. If they wanted the cops to turn their backs, fine.
I agree with this.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
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Does anyone know if the families are required to let the mayor speak at the funeral?
It's their choice.
You aren't required to do anything.
You aren't even required to have a "cop's funeral"
My DH had said if he was ever killed in the line of duty he didn't want ANY of that.
Ok, well then in that case it couldn't it be considered a bit disrespectful to the families that the police force turned their back on what amounts to an invited guest/speaker? If the families wanted to make a statement, couldn't they have asked him not to attend?
That is NOT directed at you Nell, just a general thought based on the fact that it seems the families chose to have him there.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
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Does anyone know if the families are required to let the mayor speak at the funeral?
It's their choice.
You aren't required to do anything.
You aren't even required to have a "cop's funeral"
My DH had said if he was ever killed in the line of duty he didn't want ANY of that.
Ok, well then in that case it couldn't it be considered a bit disrespectful to the families that the police force turned their back on what amounts to an invited guest/speaker? If the families wanted to make a statement, couldn't they have asked him not to attend?
That is NOT directed at you Nell, just a general thought based on the fact that it seems the families chose to have him there.
Nope, I agree with you.
The family obviously wanted him there.
It's a double edged sword for sure.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
I'm with O'Reilly.
GOOD FOR THEM.
And being the sister of a police officer, he told me flat out that if he was killed LOD he would not want *that* Mayor there. And so it wouldn't bother me that the officers do whatever they do to send a message that he is anti-cop and they know it.
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| Posted 1/6/15 10:28 AM |
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Nell, I have a question.
First I deeply respect the police and what they do.
My understanding is the DeBlasio made a remark that was public that he spoke to his son that (I am ABSOLUTLY paraphrasing) that he had to be more careful because he was black. That he had more of a chance getting stopped by a cop because he was black.
I don't think there is a person in NYC (or the US for that matter) that would disagree with that statement.
So, is that he said it out load? Publically?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
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Does anyone know if the families are required to let the mayor speak at the funeral?
It's their choice.
You aren't required to do anything.
You aren't even required to have a "cop's funeral"
My DH had said if he was ever killed in the line of duty he didn't want ANY of that.
Ok, well then in that case it couldn't it be considered a bit disrespectful to the families that the police force turned their back on what amounts to an invited guest/speaker? If the families wanted to make a statement, couldn't they have asked him not to attend?
That is NOT directed at you Nell, just a general thought based on the fact that it seems the families chose to have him there.
Nope, I agree with you.
The family obviously wanted him there.
It's a double edged sword for sure.
See, that's a tough one... I say yes and no.
Being that when my brother was hurt it was in the news a lot it got "political" real fast... and there were "powers that be" in the government and county that Kenneth did not agree with or care for -- because they were not pro-police, but after he got hurt they all, of course, "support you so much". So, it's a catch 22 -- if that family said they didn't want the mayor there it would have been national news and a big scandal... and, if I'm them and I've been in a SIMILAR - not the same - but a SIMILAR high-profile/political situation, when you are the family you feel like you have to stay neutral and "do the right thing" because you worry about backlash, you worry about not being supported down the road -- the mayor has a lot of power, the police commissioner has a lot of power... if you pissss them off or if you insult them, it makes you wonder - a few years down the road, when I need something or my family needs something? Or when Ramos' kids go to become cops, is my stance going to hurt me, the family, the officer's loved ones/kids, whatever in the long-run? Will the heads of the department have a bad taste in their mouth, will the mayor turn his back on my family as a result??
It's like, you always want to be Switzerland with that stuff when you ARE the family or loved ones because you worry -- is this going to come back to bite me??
There are fundraisers that need to be held, there are foundations that will be set up, there are legislators that will look to name laws after these heroes, there are people in charge who will look to name streets after them, these families are going to need financial support from the monies raised -- and, they MUST be thinking, because I have BEEN there, if I make a public statement or do something that shows I don't like this mayor, is it going to do me and the family more harm than good?? Will we pay the price for bruising his ego??
Just speaking from similar experience.
There were people in charge and involved in the department and county when Ken got hurt that we didn't agree with or care for -- and NO WHERE NEAR as bad as what De Blasio did in terms of being anti-cop and not supportive... BUT, we always walked the line, we always did the right thing because I thought, if I don't - Ken and his son could suffer. We need the support of those in charge to go on. It's just reality.
And we discussed this exact situation with Kenneth, since it was on the news and a hot topic, and my parents and Kenneth all said -- if God forbid that was him and thank God in Heaven it is not, I would probably feel like I'd have to have the mayor there so there wouldn't be a huge scandal...... but I wouldn't release any statements saying that the police shouldn't turn their backs on him. I would probably convey, through the PBA, that my brother stands by his fellow officers and agrees with the vast majority of them so if they want to turn their backs in a fellow cop's support and against that jerk? GOD BLESS THEM. But what you do is you do that on the side via the PBA so no one knows it came from you... that way you avoid the backlash from the people in charge, and you still send a message to the boots on the ground that you are on their side.  This is truly how this stuff works. Both families have released statements and made comments -- neither of them said to the police, please respect our mayor or please don't make statements at the funeral. So, I don't know for sure but I am thinking that is the deal.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Lola64
Posted by LastLightGlow
I agree to the protest and disrespect to Deblasio 1000% and that he is a POS but a funeral is NOT the time or place.
I'm still a little on the fence with this...I agree that funerals should be for reflecting on the life of the deceased. I also agree with the officers turning their back on the mayor that didn't stay neutral and bring this city together. But if these officers did not perform this display of silent protest at the funeral - when/where would be possible?
I do not know if there is a better place or way for the officers to show disrespect but I do know that it is not right for them to use a service of mourning to show this unless they had the family's permission or blessing. A funeral is not about you, me, the NYPD, or the men that committed the crime. It's a place for a family to come and feel pride when he sees the sea of blue supporting his son. It's where family and friends come to remember the deceased, not whisper "Hey did you see what the officers did when the Mayor came past?" While you may argue that this gesture of disrespect is supporting him, who wants a sign of disrespect for anyone at a funeral? Quiet gesture of not it is diverting the spotlight from the deceased. If the family gave permission than this is their decision. Not ours or the NYPD.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Paramount
Nell, I have a question.
First I deeply respect the police and what they do.
My understanding is the DeBlasio made a remark that was public that he spoke to his son that (I am ABSOLUTLY paraphrasing) that he had to be more careful because he was black. That he had more of a chance getting stopped by a cop because he was black.
I don't think there is a person in NYC (or the US for that matter) that would disagree with that statement.
So, is that he said it out load? Publically?
I guess you are asking me on this.
Yes, he said that. And saying something like that is like saying that all cops are racist and target people based on the color of their skin, rather than the fact that they are committing a crime.
It makes it like the cops are the enemy and his son needs to fear them.
A better thing to teach his son is to have values and not break the law- then it won't matter what color his skin is, he won't have to worry about run ins with the police.
By saying he has to be more careful because he is black, it is fueling the fire that cops target only people of a certain race.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Paramount
Nell, I have a question.
First I deeply respect the police and what they do.
My understanding is the DeBlasio made a remark that was public that he spoke to his son that (I am ABSOLUTLY paraphrasing) that he had to be more careful because he was black. That he had more of a chance getting stopped by a cop because he was black.
I don't think there is a person in NYC (or the US for that matter) that would disagree with that statement.
So, is that he said it out load? Publically?
That is pretty much it. And some how this is disrespecting the police?
I would love to know how many people on this thread actually live in the city and deal with life here on a daily basis? I live here and the only difference I've seen since DeBlasio took office is the removal of stop and frisk policies. Otherwise, things seem exactly the same.
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I 100% agree. I completely support the NYPD. I guess when you have loved ones who serve that you worry about day in and day out you have to.....I know for sure, if it were my brother or cousins who were murdered, my family wouldn't have even welcomed DeBlasio at their funeral.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
I support them and what they did
For me it says you didn't stand up for us so we are standing up for one another To show our fallen brother we are there for them as you were not
And of course if they did it for one officer they would do it for the second
As other posters said. They can't strike. This is their protest. The same as everyone was ok for everyone else to do. Comparing it to a Ceo is not fair. Apples and oranges
We live in a big city with dangerous people at times. Most times. We need the support of our elected officials And he didn't give that.
And his wife and those jeans. Disrespectful is a understatement
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
"honored what was asked of them to show respect to Diblasio"...
If it were the families who asked this of the NYPD ... then yes, I would absolutely disagree with their protest.
Given who asked... Yes, I agree with the officers.
If Diblasio showed the NYPD respect, then he'd get it in return... he didn't - so they don't need to show him any.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
I think it was disrespectful.
There is a time and a place for everything and this was not it.
It took away from honoring the officer who was shot. This was a headline in many articles, it should have been about the man, not about the cause.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Seeing as The wife wore FU*KING JEANS to the funeral, just shows the lack of respect she and her husband have. It's not ignorance IMO. She has people that could have, no wait, should have advised her better.
I'm glad those cops turned their backs.
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Ayne11
Seeing as The wife wore FU*KING JEANS to the funeral, just shows the lack of respect she and her husband have. It's not ignorance IMO. She has people that could have, no wait, should have advised her better.
I'm glad those cops turned their backs.
And I am sorry but how are you the wife of a politician, the MAYOR of a huge city like NY and you don't KNOW that wearing jeans to a funeral is disrespectful?
Please. Everyone knows that.
It's common effing sense.
It was totally done on purpose.
Let's talk about disrespect...
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Ayne11
Seeing as The wife wore FU*KING JEANS to the funeral, just shows the lack of respect she and her husband have. It's not ignorance IMO. She has people that could have, no wait, should have advised her better.
I'm glad those cops turned their backs.
And I am sorry but how are you the wife of a politician, the MAYOR of a huge city like NY and you don't KNOW that wearing jeans to a funeral is disrespectful?
Please. Everyone knows that.
It's common effing sense.
It was totally done on purpose.
Let's talk about disrespect...
Agreed. I don't see how anyone would think its OK to wear Jeans at a funeral. That was completely disrespectful.
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Question from the out of stater now.. how is this guy your mayor?
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
Posted by Xelindrya
Question from the out of stater now.. how is this guy your mayor?
Excellent question. Kinda glad im now a NH resident
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?
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Posted by Xelindrya
Question from the out of stater now.. how is this guy your mayor?
Excellent question. Kinda glad im now a NH resident
Isn't this the same guy who got rid of the horses in Central Park? Of which my daughter has dreamed of riding but now I have to quietly ignore that they won't be there in a month when we visit? Ugh
ETA: instead of posting and adding to this mess.
#1 No this has nothing to do with the police deaths - you are right
#2 The carriages were a NYC experience I wanted my daughter to have. Doesn't necessarily mean I agree with poor treatment of the animals and why I'm just sorta quiet about it.
#3 I apologize.
#4 the point I was trying to make is this mayor seems highly unliked for several reasons. How did he get majority vote?
Again... my apologies.
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