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MarathonKnitter
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grammar question... me or i?

documenting a call... not sure if to use me or i. please help someone who is not a native speaker Chat Icon

the sentence i want to write is:

He reqested to speak with someone with more clout than [me or I].

thanks

i think it's "me", but don't want to be wrong Chat Icon

Posted 10/8/08 5:18 PM
 
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Re: grammar question... me or i?

I would use "I."

Posted 10/8/08 5:18 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

...more clout than ME. You're right. Chat Icon

Posted 10/8/08 5:19 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Not an expert, but I would say:

He requested to speak with someone who has more clout than I do.

or

He requested to speak with my supervisor/superior.
(if that's accurate to the situation)

Posted 10/8/08 5:20 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by PreshusSmurf

Not an expert, but I would say:

He requested to speak with someone who has more clout than I do.

or

He requested to speak with my supervisor/superior.
(if that's accurate to the situation)



ITA.

Posted 10/8/08 5:21 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by Kara

Posted by PreshusSmurf

Not an expert, but I would say:

He requested to speak with someone who has more clout than I do.

or

He requested to speak with my supervisor/superior.
(if that's accurate to the situation)



ITA.



now that I'm questioning my answer, I'd go this route to be on the safe side.

Posted 10/8/08 5:22 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by PreshusSmurf

Not an expert, but I would say:

He requested to speak with someone who has more clout than I do.

or

He requested to speak with my supervisor/superior.
(if that's accurate to the situation)



I agree, but if you are going with #1, I would change clout to authority, just b/c I dont' like that word. (No real reason though!)

Message edited 10/8/2008 5:26:51 PM.

Posted 10/8/08 5:26 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

The correct way is with "I". The easiest way to remember is to simply finish the sentence. ex: He wanted to speak with someone who has more clout than I have Chat Icon

Posted 10/8/08 5:27 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

he specifically said "clout"
it's the reason i'm stating it.

"... than i do" sounds good to me Chat Icon

i'm still documenting calls from yesterday Chat Icon

Posted 10/8/08 5:28 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Kara

Posted by PreshusSmurf

Not an expert, but I would say:

He requested to speak with someone who has more clout than I do.

or

He requested to speak with my supervisor/superior.
(if that's accurate to the situation)



ITA.



now that I'm questioning my answer, I'd go this route to be on the safe side.



This is correct. "I" is the correct pronoun, but in addition, one needs to avoid using understood verb and simply give the verb. Therefore, the correct way to end the sentence is "I do."

(At least according to the Elements of Style. I Chat Icon Strunk and White.)

Posted 10/8/08 5:29 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by tourist

Posted by PreshusSmurf

Not an expert, but I would say:

He requested to speak with someone who has more clout than I do.

or

He requested to speak with my supervisor/superior.
(if that's accurate to the situation)



I agree, but if you are going with #1, I would change clout to authority, just b/c I dont' like that word. (No real reason though!)




I agree with you, I'm not sure why but authority seems to sound better than clout.


Other word choices:

power

influence

leverage

Posted 10/8/08 5:29 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by Kara

(At least according to the Elements of Style. I Chat Icon Strunk and White.)




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Message edited 10/8/2008 5:32:38 PM.

Posted 10/8/08 5:31 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

I usually reverse the words to figure out what works. For instance, he wishes to speakwith someone that has more clout than ___.

___ have more clout.

I have more clout or me have more clout?

Which makes sense?>

Posted 10/8/08 6:03 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by 1stimemom

The correct way is with "I". The easiest way to remember is to simply finish the sentence. ex: He wanted to speak with someone who has more clout than I have Chat Icon

Yes - that being said, the proper grammar for a common sentence that people say wrong all the time:

He is older than me

Thats wrong - the right way is:

He is older than I

Posted 10/8/08 6:27 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by 1stimemom

The correct way is with "I". The easiest way to remember is to simply finish the sentence. ex: He wanted to speak with someone who has more clout than I have Chat Icon

Yes - that being said, the proper grammar for a common sentence that people say wrong all the time:

He is older than me

Thats wrong - the right way is:

He is older than I



Actually, if you want to get truly technical, proper style requires you to include the VERB at the end of the sentence: "He is older than I am."

Implied verbs are sloppy.

Posted 10/8/08 6:32 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

I'm completely confused.

Posted 10/8/08 6:33 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

definitely I

Posted 10/8/08 6:39 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

He requested to speak with someone with more clout than I (have).

Its I.

Posted 10/8/08 6:58 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

another way to make sure of the difference in any statement is to take out the Other person- ex, youd never say "my mom took a picture of my sister and i" youd say "took a picture of me"

Posted 10/8/08 9:30 PM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

It is I - I always add a verb at the end of the sentence to figure it out.

For example - My sister has more cookies than I.
Add do at the end to figure it out - My sister has more cookies than I do. OR My sister has more cookies than me do.
Hope that makes sense.

Posted 10/8/08 10:12 PM
 

klingklang77
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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by Kara

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by 1stimemom

The correct way is with "I". The easiest way to remember is to simply finish the sentence. ex: He wanted to speak with someone who has more clout than I have Chat Icon

Yes - that being said, the proper grammar for a common sentence that people say wrong all the time:

He is older than me

Thats wrong - the right way is:

He is older than I



Actually, if you want to get truly technical, proper style requires you to include the VERB at the end of the sentence: "He is older than I am."

Implied verbs are sloppy.



That is correct. You can say me without a verb, but I with a verb.

He is taller than I am.
He is taller than me.

He is taller than I, is something you would say a long time ago, something that is left over from back then which, IMO, hasn't been phased out.

I teach ESL and someone asked me this exact question. I looked it up and many grammar books and both are fine. I found this on the internet about subjective and objectives:

"Whether than is to be followed by the objective or subjective case of a pronoun is much discussed in usage guides. When, as a conjunction, than introduces a subordinate clause, the case of any pronouns following than is determined by their function in that clause: He is younger than I am. I like her better than I like him. When than is followed only by a pronoun or pronouns, with no verb expressed, the usual advice for determining the case is to form a clause mentally after than to see whether the pronoun would be a subject or an object. Thus, the sentences He was more upset than I and She gave him more sympathy than I are to be understood, respectively, as He was more upset than I was and She gave him more sympathy than I gave him. In the second sentence, the use of the objective case after than (She gave him more sympathy than me) would produce a different meaning (She gave him more sympathy than she gave me). This method of determining the case of pronouns after than is generally employed in formal speech and writing.
Than occurs as a preposition in the old and well-established construction than whom: a musician than whom none is more expressive. In informal, especially uneducated, speech and writing, than is usually treated as a preposition and followed by the objective case of the pronoun: He is younger than me. She plays better poker than him, but you play even better than her."

I am too lazy to shorten it.

Posted 10/9/08 6:37 AM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Ahhh - I always learn something n LIF! Chat Icon

Posted 10/9/08 6:52 AM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

ahhhhhh, grammar.... woe is I Chat Icon

Posted 10/9/08 8:09 AM
 

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Re: grammar question... me or i?

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Kara

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by 1stimemom

The correct way is with "I". The easiest way to remember is to simply finish the sentence. ex: He wanted to speak with someone who has more clout than I have Chat Icon

Yes - that being said, the proper grammar for a common sentence that people say wrong all the time:

He is older than me

Thats wrong - the right way is:

He is older than I



Actually, if you want to get truly technical, proper style requires you to include the VERB at the end of the sentence: "He is older than I am."

Implied verbs are sloppy.



That is correct. You can say me without a verb, but I with a verb.

He is taller than I am.
He is taller than me.

He is taller than I, is something you would say a long time ago, something that is left over from back then which, IMO, hasn't been phased out.

I teach ESL and someone asked me this exact question. I looked it up and many grammar books and both are fine. I found this on the internet about subjective and objectives:

"Whether than is to be followed by the objective or subjective case of a pronoun is much discussed in usage guides. When, as a conjunction, than introduces a subordinate clause, the case of any pronouns following than is determined by their function in that clause: He is younger than I am. I like her better than I like him. When than is followed only by a pronoun or pronouns, with no verb expressed, the usual advice for determining the case is to form a clause mentally after than to see whether the pronoun would be a subject or an object. Thus, the sentences He was more upset than I and She gave him more sympathy than I are to be understood, respectively, as He was more upset than I was and She gave him more sympathy than I gave him. In the second sentence, the use of the objective case after than (She gave him more sympathy than me) would produce a different meaning (She gave him more sympathy than she gave me). This method of determining the case of pronouns after than is generally employed in formal speech and writing.
Than occurs as a preposition in the old and well-established construction than whom: a musician than whom none is more expressive. In informal, especially uneducated, speech and writing, than is usually treated as a preposition and followed by the objective case of the pronoun: He is younger than me. She plays better poker than him, but you play even better than her."

I am too lazy to shorten it.



When I took English classes this is how I was taught.

He is taller than I am.
He is taller than me.

Posted 10/9/08 8:16 AM
 
 

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