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GioiaMia
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
we tip the mail carrier $20 and each sanitation worker $20. UPS and FedEx get $20 each also bc i do ALL my holiday shopping online and they are awesome.
This year everyone is getting extra since I have had so much stuff sent to the house for the wedding and everything has come quickly and in perfect condition!
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by Blazesyth
Doctors, nurses, laywers are providing services, just like the mailman or garbage man. But people don't - because those people have better jobs and get larger salaries. People don't feel bad for Mr. Doctor and Ms. Lawyer. For some reason people will feel bad for Ms. Mailwoman and Mr. Garbageman, because their jobs don't pay as much.
I personally HAVE sent something to my drs office here or there, not consistently though. Depends how often I had to go in (not just for a physical, I mean more consistent type visits). In regards to the salary, to me that has NOTHING to do with it. The difference b/w tipping the mailman or garbage man and your dr is that your mailman and garbage man come to your house daily and/or a few times a week. Whereas how often do you go to your dr? This has nothing to do with salary.
And I can tell you if you had a dr that you may have had to see frequently for a major ailment, you may consider sending a basket to the office as well if you think you got great care or want to show appreciation for hte job they do.
I just sent my vet's office a tower of goodies b/c I want them to know how important they are to me, and that I appreciate my pets/myself being treated good by them. I know they aren't expecting anything, and even if they secretly were, EVERYONE wants to feel appreciated once in a while. Why not at Christmas?
But I guess if you have no appreciation for them and what they do, or think they are horrible at what they do, then that would support why you (general sense you) may not tip. But this is NOT about a crappy or "low paying" job.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by Blazesyth
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This has ZERO to do with having a "crappy" job, but more to do with not having much tact.
Which seems to be plaguing you as well.
Thanks!
But why don't people tip their doctors, for afterhours or weekend appointments, or the nurse for calling in their script to the pharmacy? Or the lawyer, for winning their divorce case? Financial Advisor for giving you good stock tips? Those actions are more 'above and beyond' then the mailman and the garbageman doing their job.
Doctors, nurses, laywers are providing services, just like the mailman or garbage man. But people don't - because those people have better jobs and get larger salaries. People don't feel bad for Mr. Doctor and Ms. Lawyer. For some reason people will feel bad for Ms. Mailwoman and Mr. Garbageman, because their jobs don't pay as much.
Sorry, but I don't feel bad for them, and I don't feel that I need to make it up to them. They decided that they wanted to follow that career path, not me.
First of all, your flat out wrong. I am an attorney and EVERY year old clients send us gifts around the holidays. No, not cash, but baked goods, bottles of wine and other tokens of appreciation. Why? Because they appreciate all of the work we did for them to make their lives a little easier.
Secondly, I sincerely doubt most people give the mailman and garbage man a tip because they "feed bad" for them...they give b/c these people work for them all year long and do a good job. It's a way of saying thank you, not a way of saying sorry I think your job stinks.
Do you not tip your waitress because you think their job *****? 
ETA: seriously, you can't write s t i n k s ?
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by Blazesyth
Doctors, nurses, laywers are providing services, just like the mailman or garbage man. But people don't - because those people have better jobs and get larger salaries. People don't feel bad for Mr. Doctor and Ms. Lawyer. For some reason people will feel bad for Ms. Mailwoman and Mr. Garbageman, because their jobs don't pay as much.
Sorry, but I don't feel bad for them, and I don't feel that I need to make it up to them. They decided that they wanted to follow that career path, not me.
I think if you are talking about your own particular service workers, your mail carriers, your garbage workers, etc. etc. and you feel that they personally don't do enough or go above and beyond...then you are entitled not to tip them.
But to generalize that all of them don't deserve tips because they decided to take that career path is a little harsh! I have had family members in all of those professions you mention.
Doctors, Lawyers, Financial Advisors make really good money...esp the Financial Advisors and believe me if they make good money they are getting a good bonus.
Though Docs sometimes have not the most appealing jobs (depending on the practice)...you have to admit that someone throwing out your trash or walking in rain, sleet and snow to deliver your packages deserves a little something extra if they go out their way throughout the year.
IDK, it just seems a bit harsh, no?
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by leese
.you have to admit that someone throwing out your trash or walking in rain, sleet and snow to deliver your packages deserves a little something extra if they go out their way throughout the year.
IDK, it just seems a bit harsh, no?
I totally agree. I think the job is a lot harder (maybe not mentally but physically draining) than people realize.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by Chatham-Chick
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by quehoraes
This has ZERO to do with having a "crappy" job, but more to do with not having much tact.
Which seems to be plaguing you as well.
Thanks!
But why don't people tip their doctors, for afterhours or weekend appointments, or the nurse for calling in their script to the pharmacy? Or the lawyer, for winning their divorce case? Financial Advisor for giving you good stock tips? Those actions are more 'above and beyond' then the mailman and the garbageman doing their job.
Doctors, nurses, laywers are providing services, just like the mailman or garbage man. But people don't - because those people have better jobs and get larger salaries. People don't feel bad for Mr. Doctor and Ms. Lawyer. For some reason people will feel bad for Ms. Mailwoman and Mr. Garbageman, because their jobs don't pay as much.
Sorry, but I don't feel bad for them, and I don't feel that I need to make it up to them. They decided that they wanted to follow that career path, not me.
People often send gifts, generally to the office of lawyers, doctors, dentists, hospitals, etc.. I worked in a nursing facility and we VERY OFTEN recieved gifts from family members. It wasn't cash (we're not allowed to accept cash, just as I'm sure lawyers and doctors can't), but we sure got plenty of goodies!
And not everybody has the opportunity to go to med school, law school, etc..
Tipping isn't about "feeling bad" about someone's job.
FYI - lawyers aren't technically allowed to receive gifts from clients... so it may be best to leave them off your list. 
De minimis stuff like cookies or whatever are probably fine, but don't go sending them expensive gifts and don't give them cash!
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
I have to say, this thread was the first time I had ever heard of tipping the UPS or FedEx delivery guys.
I didn't know they were allowed to receive tips. I had no idea it was so commonplace!
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| Posted 11/16/07 1:03 PM |
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by Tilde
This year everyone is getting extra since I have had so much stuff sent to the house for the wedding and everything has come quickly and in perfect condition!
But aren't they supposed to?
I expect my mail to come in good condition, my packages not to be dented, all of my garbage picked up, etc.
How is it going "above and beyond" to get you your stuff in good condition and take ALLLL of your trash?
If they weren't doing this, Id have no problem sending a nasty letter to their company/supervisor/etc.
<BTW, I just quoted you because you said what alot of other people said, Im not really aiming my comment at you...
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
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Posted by leese
.you have to admit that someone throwing out your trash or walking in rain, sleet and snow to deliver your packages deserves a little something extra if they go out their way throughout the year.
IDK, it just seems a bit harsh, no?
I totally agree. I think the job is a lot harder (maybe not mentally but physically draining) than people realize.
But they chose to do it? Why does that mean they should receive a tip?
I don't get extra money when I come to work when its extra snowy....town/city workers don't get extra bonuses when they plow the streets, or sweat their bums off in 99 degree weather... it's part of a job that you chose to do.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by melbalalala
Posted by Tilde
This year everyone is getting extra since I have had so much stuff sent to the house for the wedding and everything has come quickly and in perfect condition!
But aren't they supposed to?
I expect my mail to come in good condition, my packages not to be dented, all of my garbage picked up, etc.
How is it going "above and beyond" to get you your stuff in good condition and take ALLLL of your trash?
If they weren't doing this, Id have no problem sending a nasty letter to their company/supervisor/etc.
<BTW, I just quoted you because you said what alot of other people said, Im not really aiming my comment at you...
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I think it depends on where you live and how much junk you have. In my town, we know our garbage collectors and if we have large items you call they come pick it up -- and for us they'll pick it up quickly and you don't have to worry about it.
Yes, I think all your trash should be picked up and all your packages be delivered. Just as I think all your food at a restaurant should be brought to your table and your bed made when you are at a hotel.
But if your waitress had to deal with a big table of yours with tons of drink orders and lots of requests...or your maid had to clean up a messy room for seven days...or in parallel if your garbage collector picked up an item that you were supposed to "call for a special pickup" then it's sometimes nice to give a little something. i don't think its that big of a deal.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by melbalalala
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Posted by leese
.you have to admit that someone throwing out your trash or walking in rain, sleet and snow to deliver your packages deserves a little something extra if they go out their way throughout the year.
IDK, it just seems a bit harsh, no?
I totally agree. I think the job is a lot harder (maybe not mentally but physically draining) than people realize.
But they chose to do it? Why does that mean they should receive a tip?
I don't get extra money when I come to work when its extra snowy....town/city workers don't get extra bonuses when they plow the streets, or sweat their bums off in 99 degree weather... it's part of a job that you chose to do.
actually some municpal/state workers do get bonuses for meritorious service.
my point in my comment was that I felt it was harsh to say (and still feel this way) that just because they decided to go into that career, you shouldn't tip them because its not your fault it's "crappy" --- I disagree. Regardless of the profession if someone goes out of their way for you, you have the right to give or not to give... except in cases where its illegal or unethical.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by melbalalala
How is it going "above and beyond" to get you your stuff in good condition and take ALLLL of your trash?
My mail carrier would come out from the back if he saw me at the post office and take care of what I ever needed. Actually, he used to get upset at the thought that I went to the post office as opposed to calling them and having him take care of whatever I needed, whether it was come to our house to pick up a package, bring me stamps, boxes, etc..
If I had a package, he would ring the doorbell and wait to see if someone was home as opposed to just leaving a package on the porch.
Once I had the baby, he made it a point not to ring the doorbell so as not to wake the baby in case she was napping. That was his doing, not my request.
He was pretty invested in our community and kept an eye out for us and I was grateful for that. He earned his tip. To me that is going above and beyond.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by leese
Yes, I think all your trash should be picked up and all your packages be delivered. Just as I think all your food at a restaurant should be brought to your table and your bed made when you are at a hotel.
But if your waitress had to deal with a big table of yours with tons of drink orders and lots of requests...or your maid had to clean up a messy room for seven days...or in parallel if your garbage collector picked up an item that you were supposed to "call for a special pickup" then it's sometimes nice to give a little something. i don't think its that big of a deal.
These are actually really good points. (the maid and the waitress and going above and beyond). I couldnt wrap my mind around how a garbage collector or mailman could even go "above and beyond". Some posters made it almost seem like the tip was a mini-bribe to make sure you get your mail in tact/on time next year or your trash picked up. This sounds almost corrupt and like it belongs in the old Soviet Union.
Though its a great favor to you if the trash collector does that (comes when it was supposed to be a "special pickup), isn't he putting his job in jeopardy? Don't know if that's relevant to this thread or not, but it sounds like if he lets a "customer" bend the rules, the customer will tip him?
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by MeNBobs
I copied someone else who called the tip a payoff but I meant it in a joking manner.
Some mornings I would wake up expecting to see some of our pails not emptied or the box of broken tile still left on the curb. A pail is not supposed to exceed 50 pounds and I would say on a few occasions mine have. The sanitation workers are not required to take this but have done and I am very grateful for this. I don't think they are breaking rules because I could have put out another pail and split the garbage up but I chose not to.
ETA: When you go out to a restraunt or a bar if you don't tip a bartender they get the option of giving you bad service (making you wait longer for drinks, ignoring you if it is busy) so when you tip you tip them as a payoff to get faster better service. The sanitation and mail worker don't have the option of not serving you.
I dont agree with the bartender for doing that, but bartenders depend on tips as their wage.. so it doesn't pay for them to serve people that don't wish to tip as efficiently as they might a big tipper.
Trash collectors and mailpeople are salaried employees, just like all of us sitting at a desk typing our opinions on here their livelihood isn't dependent on tips.
Alot of people in jobs that deal with the public go "above and beyond". That's good customer service, and a great employee to their organization. I don't think we should throw $20s at all of them, so I don't.
But, obviously, to each their own, and if I become a garbage collector one day Im working in your neighborhood.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by Chatham-Chick
My mail carrier would come out from the back if he saw me at the post office and take care of what I ever needed. Actually, he used to get upset at the thought that I went to the post office as opposed to calling them and having him take care of whatever I needed, whether it was come to our house to pick up a package, bring me stamps, boxes, etc..
If I had a package, he would ring the doorbell and wait to see if someone was home as opposed to just leaving a package on the porch.
Once I had the baby, he made it a point not to ring the doorbell so as not to wake the baby in case she was napping. That was his doing, not my request.
He was pretty invested in our community and kept an eye out for us and I was grateful for that. He earned his tip. To me that is going above and beyond.
That is REALLY great customer service, and your post office is lucky to have your mailman work for them. He is a valuable employee.
Why not write a letter commending his actions to his supervisor instead of a cash tip?
The people that work at my local supermarket, for example, are fantastic. The produce man runs around looking for certain types of fruits for me, the butcher makes special packages of chop meat for me when he was out of a certain type, the fish lady greeted us by name after awhile.. so we wrote a letter to corprorate raving about the employees at that grocery store... I didn't see a need to run around and throw $20s at everyone.
Yes, good service and going "above and ebyond" should be recognized. Cash tips, however, aren't the only ways to do this....
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Posted by Chatham-Chick
My mail carrier would come out from the back if he saw me at the post office and take care of what I ever needed. Actually, he used to get upset at the thought that I went to the post office as opposed to calling them and having him take care of whatever I needed, whether it was come to our house to pick up a package, bring me stamps, boxes, etc..
Maybe it's just me, but I find that really weird. I think I'd be uncomfortable if my mail man treated me this way. (Not the other package stuff, that's wonderful!) It's not his job to deliver stamps to you or pick up your packages... At least, none of the post offices where I live offer those services. They'd never be able to deliver all the mail if they were also doing this for everyone. If I called the post office and asked them to have my mailman deliver stamps to me, I think they'd hang up on me... Unless I placed an order online! Then he'd have to bring them. 
It's nice that he goes above and beyond and you think the service is great, though. That's what matters!
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I live in a 'private' community with 'private' sanitation service... and I LOVE him, he's great! I tip him $100 at x-mas and usually 2x a year we wind up with a ton of garbage for a clean up so I give him $20 anytime I put out a lot of garbage. My mailman STINKS and I do not tip him. Anytime it rains really hard, we get no mail, and the day after, we get double the normal mail... Hmmm.... ..and I am not kidding either – we never get mail when it’s pouring!  I can’t prove he doesn’t deliver it but I think it’s suspicious.
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I dont agree with the bartender for doing that, but bartenders depend on tips as their wage.. so it doesn't pay for them to serve people that don't wish to tip as efficiently as they might a big tipper.
Trash collectors and mailpeople are salaried employees, just like all of us sitting at a desk typing our opinions on here their livelihood isn't dependent on tips.
Alot of people in jobs that deal with the public go "above and beyond". That's good customer service, and a great employee to their organization. I don't think we should throw $20s at all of them, so I don't.
But, obviously, to each their own, and if I become a garbage collector one day Im working in your neighborhood.
In my office I get "tips" every year from different vendors and clients. They may not be monetary but I have received gift baskets, wine, cookie platters, gift cards...... So yeah I am salaried but people still show me their appreciation by throwing wine and food at me. I appreciate that they do this.
I think since the postal carrier and sanitation worker serves me on an alomost daily basis (not once a week like someone who works in a supermarket) they should be thanked for all their hard work and help through the year.
If I become a garbage worker I will hope not to be placed in your neighborhood but I will request KittyThe Stray's
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Maybe I missed this, but did anybody say what they tip their cleaning person? This is the first year that we've had a cleaning lady and I'm not sure what to give her.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
just saw this in money mag:
mail carrier - 20
hair dresser - 20
cleaning person - 75
occassional babysitter - 25
FT nanny - 270
gardener/yardwrorker - 50
newspaper carrier - 15
garbage collector - 20
+/- 7%
this is pretty close to what I do - and I give my DS's daycare teachers $20/each. I figure I could get someone a gift, but I don't know what they want - so this way they can pick out what they like.
that being said - my father wasn't a letter carrier (so he didn't get tips) - but he worked for the USPS and it isn't a "crappy" job. We lived in a nice house, it got my sister and me through college and my parents are now retired with a very nice nestegg - but he did have to work in all the weather conditions and I do find that our mail service is pretty good, when you think of how many letters and mailings are travelling all over the country.
I know my letter carrier has brought us mail when they are mislabeled/addressed.
oh - and I bring a box of chocolates to my pediatricians office and my Ob's office. It's just part of the holiday spirit.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
Posted by MeNBobs
If I become a garbage worker I will hope not to be placed in your neighborhood but I will request KittyThe Stray's
Ditto. Im definitely requesting her neighborhood!
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Posted by Anniegrl
Maybe I missed this, but did anybody say what they tip their cleaning person? This is the first year that we've had a cleaning lady and I'm not sure what to give her.
My cleaning lady comes every other week - the last time she comes before the holidays I give her double what we normally pay.
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Re: Holiday Tipping - Who, What and How?
A tip is a tip and it's a matter of preference really.
I don't even know if people tip in South Carolina. I know it sounds naive but when I was stationed in Pensacola I tipped the cab driver and he looked at me puzzled as if I didn't know how to count! :)
Am I going to seem completely cheap if I do baked goods instead?
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| Posted 11/18/07 9:07 PM |
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I also forgot to say I tip the men who bring us our bottled water each month, just about 10 bucks each.
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