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How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
HALL COUNTY, Ga. -- The jury has awarded a Hall County woman $150,000 after she sued her former fiance for calling their wedding off.
RoseMary Shell sued her ex-fiance, Wayne Gibbs, after he broke off their engagement in 2007.
Shell argued her fiance's promise of marital bliss amounted to a binding contract. She said she left a high-paying job in Florida to be with Gibbs and she said she has suffered financial losses since their break-up. She also said she has suffered emotionally.
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I understand that really BLOWS to have that done to you... but to sue?
I can understand if they were married... but engagements get broken all the time.. Its your decision to trust that person etc etc.
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janet
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
is that the one that he broke up with her in the newspaper?
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:17 AM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by janet
is that the one that he broke up with her in the newspaper?
no he left her a note in her bathroom.
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:19 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
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Posted by janet
is that the one that he broke up with her in the newspaper?
no he left her a note in her bathroom.
oh ok them let me show you this one!
and here is the ad he took out in the paper.
eta: what is wrong with people these days. i mean first that weird woman on youtube and these 2 guysImage Attachment(s):
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:29 AM |
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AmyG13
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
this was in the bottom half of the story:
"Gibbs testified that he had taken Shell on trips and paid $30,000 of her debt while they were engaged. He said when he found out she had even more debt, he canceled the wedding by leaving Shell a note in their bathroom."
I can't believe they gave her money. An engagement is not a legal contract, and it certainly doesn't guarantee "bliss". He should appeal. I think hidden debt is a legit reason to call off a wedding.
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:36 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
I think it is ridiculous, she does not deserve a dime
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:38 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by janet
Posted by namechange
Posted by janet
is that the one that he broke up with her in the newspaper?
no he left her a note in her bathroom.
oh ok them let me show you this one!
and here is the ad he took out in the paper.
eta: what is wrong with people these days. i mean first that weird woman on youtube and these 2 guys
ooooooooh man... was it the chick that broke it off?
hmmm wonder what the story was behind THAT
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:39 AM |
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janet
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
here is the poll results... looks like ALOT of people think she should get over it
A jury awarded a Hall County woman $150,000 after she gave up her high-paying job to be with her fiance -- and then he called the wedding off.
Do you agree with the jury's judgment for the jilted bride?
Choice Votes Percentage of 17570 Votes
Absolutely! 3063 17%
Absolutely Not! 12988 74%
I'm not sure. 1519 9%
Thank you for taking part in our survey! Watch Channel 2 Action News for updates on this story.
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:40 AM |
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janet
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by namechange
Posted by janet
Posted by namechange
Posted by janet
is that the one that he broke up with her in the newspaper?
no he left her a note in her bathroom.
oh ok them let me show you this one!
and here is the ad he took out in the paper.
eta: what is wrong with people these days. i mean first that weird woman on youtube and these 2 guys
ooooooooh man... was it the chick that broke it off?
hmmm wonder what the story was behind THAT
i do not know but it is strange that they both came out today. maybe.
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| Posted 7/25/08 9:41 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
My best friend Dh was sued by his crack pot ex fiance. She sued him for MILLIONS yes I said MILLIONS for emotional distress and because she lost money on some of the things they had booked. She LOST.
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| Posted 7/25/08 10:07 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Boo hoo. Life stinks sometimes. Move on, pop a Zanax talk to someone and find someone better. Why waste money on attorney fees and wasting court time? Shame on her.
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| Posted 7/25/08 10:20 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
I think it's a little excessive.
Sounds to me like she was just looking for a payout. I guess good for her, she found a judge/jury that was stupid enough to award her that 150K.
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| Posted 7/25/08 10:21 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
I have mixed feelings about this one....I saw her on the Today show this morning...
My emotional side says she should get over it and move on, engaements get broken everyday, marriages don't last, etc.
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
He supposedly told her to quit her job and move, said he would handle all of her debt, and she would be OK.
So she quit her job and up and moved.....now he dumps her and she's left w/ no job, a ton of debt.....I guess I can understand where a conservative jury in a very conservative town (so the Today show says) would award her something based on these promises and what she gave up and potentially lost........
If you take the emotion out of it and look at it as a "deal" or contract, then she has every right to sue and win.
Do I agree with it? Probably not.
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| Posted 7/25/08 10:21 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
she was just suing for emotional pain and financial losses from the job she left?
Thats crazy! WHen I first looked I thought she was suing to get money back they put into the wedding, but I think I'm wrong
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| Posted 7/25/08 10:42 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by curliegirl
I have mixed feelings about this one....I saw her on the Today show this morning...
My emotional side says she should get over it and move on, engaements get broken everyday, marriages don't last, etc.
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
He supposedly told her to quit her job and move, said he would handle all of her debt, and she would be OK.
So she quit her job and up and moved.....now he dumps her and she's left w/ no job, a ton of debt.....I guess I can understand where a conservative jury in a very conservative town (so the Today show says) would award her something based on these promises and what she gave up and potentially lost........
If you take the emotion out of it and look at it as a "deal" or contract, then she has every right to sue and win.
Do I agree with it? Probably not.
ITA. It's conflicting but "interesting".
Engagement is "engagement" a promise to get married with the ring symbol of such promise.
A part of me says: Well if we had to sue all people who broke off a wedding, nobody would ever propose, right? Sometimes you have to learn to protect yourself and have a plan B is case such thing happen.
But then, she does have a valid point. She left her job based on the promise that she would get married. So she does have a financial loss on this. I feel the note left in the bathroom did not help his case.
I personally find that undisclosed debts is a deal breaker sometimes. Unless they are a prenup. Then he would have been protected personally.
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by smdl
Posted by curliegirl
I have mixed feelings about this one....I saw her on the Today show this morning...
My emotional side says she should get over it and move on, engaements get broken everyday, marriages don't last, etc.
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
He supposedly told her to quit her job and move, said he would handle all of her debt, and she would be OK.
So she quit her job and up and moved.....now he dumps her and she's left w/ no job, a ton of debt.....I guess I can understand where a conservative jury in a very conservative town (so the Today show says) would award her something based on these promises and what she gave up and potentially lost........
If you take the emotion out of it and look at it as a "deal" or contract, then she has every right to sue and win.
Do I agree with it? Probably not.
ITA. It's conflicting but "interesting".
Engagement is "engagement" a promise to get married with the ring symbol of such promise.
A part of me says: Well if we had to sue all people who broke off a wedding, nobody would ever propose, right? Sometimes you have to learn to protect yourself and have a plan B is case such thing happen.
But then, she does have a valid point. She left her job based on the promise that she would get married. So she does have a financial loss on this. I feel the note left in the bathroom did not help his case.
I personally find that undisclosed debts is a deal breaker sometimes. Unless they are a prenup. Then he would have been protected personally.
Ah, but "supposedly" the FH knew abut and accepted her debt.
I agree and think if everyone sued for everything you COULD sue for, the justice system would actually make good use of the zillion attorneys out there (no offense to the attorneys on here)....just move on......
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| Posted 7/25/08 11:15 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by curliegirl
I have mixed feelings about this one....I saw her on the Today show this morning...
My emotional side says she should get over it and move on, engaements get broken everyday, marriages don't last, etc.
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
He supposedly told her to quit her job and move, said he would handle all of her debt, and she would be OK.
So she quit her job and up and moved.....now he dumps her and she's left w/ no job, a ton of debt.....I guess I can understand where a conservative jury in a very conservative town (so the Today show says) would award her something based on these promises and what she gave up and potentially lost........
If you take the emotion out of it and look at it as a "deal" or contract, then she has every right to sue and win.
Do I agree with it? Probably not.
Initially, I was saying, of course not. That's crazy.
But after learning the details: She quit her job and moved, I see why this case COULD win (not necessary should). ASSUMING she tried to get er job back and couldn't.
To me, its not the engagement that is the contract, but the "quit your job and move with me and I'll support you" part.
If that is the case: she quit her job and moved- then yes, i think she is entitled to something. Here is why.
First Year Law School: Promissory estoppel. Basically, its an oral agreement that someone relied upon to their detriment.
"A promise which the promisor should reasonably expect to induce action or forbearance of a definite and character on the part of the promisee and which does induce such action or forbearance is binding if injustice can be avoided only by enforcement of the promise."
The mere fact that the engagemetn was broke off is not enough for a lawsuit IMO.
But this girl quit her job and moved, presumeably giving up her home. I HOPE that is what she is being compensated for, and not for a broken heart.
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
AND she's an older woman to boot......not so easy to find a great paying job at her age which looks to me like she's about early 50s or so......
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| Posted 7/25/08 11:36 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by namechange
I understand that really BLOWS to have that done to you... but to sue?
I can understand if they were married... but engagements get broken all the time.. Its your decision to trust that person etc etc.
i agree with this. i hope the decision gets overturned. that is just ridiculous.
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| Posted 7/25/08 11:43 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by curliegirl
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
not sure about this 
but if it was a contract, BOTH sides have to uphold their "end of the bargain," so to speak. he promises X and she promises X in return - but by hiding her debt (and $30,000 is a LOT of debt), she "lied" about X and therefore reneged on her promise.
not sure if that makes sense but that's how i see it. 
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| Posted 7/25/08 11:47 AM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by Shelly
Posted by curliegirl
I have mixed feelings about this one....I saw her on the Today show this morning...
My emotional side says she should get over it and move on, engaements get broken everyday, marriages don't last, etc.
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
He supposedly told her to quit her job and move, said he would handle all of her debt, and she would be OK.
So she quit her job and up and moved.....now he dumps her and she's left w/ no job, a ton of debt.....I guess I can understand where a conservative jury in a very conservative town (so the Today show says) would award her something based on these promises and what she gave up and potentially lost........
If you take the emotion out of it and look at it as a "deal" or contract, then she has every right to sue and win.
Do I agree with it? Probably not.
Initially, I was saying, of course not. That's crazy.
But after learning the details: She quit her job and moved, I see why this case COULD win (not necessary should). ASSUMING she tried to get er job back and couldn't.
To me, its not the engagement that is the contract, but the "quit your job and move with me and I'll support you" part.
If that is the case: she quit her job and moved- then yes, i think she is entitled to something. Here is why.
First Year Law School: Promissory estoppel. Basically, its an oral agreement that someone relied upon to their detriment.
"A promise which the promisor should reasonably expect to induce action or forbearance of a definite and character on the part of the promisee and which does induce such action or forbearance is binding if injustice can be avoided only by enforcement of the promise."
The mere fact that the engagemetn was broke off is not enough for a lawsuit IMO.
But this girl quit her job and moved, presumeably giving up her home. I HOPE that is what she is being compensated for, and not for a broken heart.
wow that is interesting... thanks for that info shelly!
I still see it as it was HER decision to up and move.. to trust a person enough to think they would never do this...
but then again, I can't ever see that happening to me.. and it could have hit her from left field.
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by curliegirl
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
not sure about this
but if it was a contract, BOTH sides have to uphold their "end of the bargain," so to speak. he promises X and she promises X in return - but by hiding her debt (and $30,000 is a LOT of debt), she "lied" about X and therefore reneged on her promise.
not sure if that makes sense but that's how i see it.
I get what you are saying, but her debt WAS disclosed, he already PAID 30K of it and she "says" he knew about all of her debts. So if that IS true, then she held up her end and he SHOULD lose, if we look at this from a business standpoint.
ANother source states that he was unfaithful and she received the settlement due to her financial loss of which she gave up and $81,000 salary and recently took a new job for $31,000.
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
i think its crazy. move on privately.
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| Posted 7/25/08 11:56 AM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
Posted by curliegirl
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by curliegirl
My rational side says, well, isn't an engagement a form of a contract?
not sure about this
but if it was a contract, BOTH sides have to uphold their "end of the bargain," so to speak. he promises X and she promises X in return - but by hiding her debt (and $30,000 is a LOT of debt), she "lied" about X and therefore reneged on her promise.
not sure if that makes sense but that's how i see it.
I get what you are saying, but her debt WAS disclosed, he already PAID 30K of it and she "says" he knew about all of her debts. So if that IS true, then she held up her end and he SHOULD lose, if we look at this from a business standpoint.
ANother source states that he was unfaithful and she received the settlement due to her financial loss of which she gave up and $81,000 salary and recently took a new job for $31,000.
The article says he "found out" about more debt, implying that he didn't know about the sum greater than 30K, then her broke it off. If this is the case then I think he has a legitimate and legal reason to break his verbal contract of marriage and financial support. Perhaps she should get a 'little' something to help her move back under the high-paying rock from whence she came, but that would be about it.
Poor dude, what a beaotch.
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| Posted 7/25/08 1:01 PM |
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Re: How do we feel about this? - Woman sues ex-fiancé
get over it, woman. i can see WHY he called it off.
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