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i'm just a little why this joke brought up your DH? It's very tasteless the joke but it was on kanye, not patrick and not your DH. I think people made far worse jokes on Michael Jackson when he died if you ask me!

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I am as to why this is post is still here and the other one was pulled

I really liked the last supper picture

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Posted by MommaTo3Dogs1Boy

i'm just a little why this joke brought up your DH? It's very tasteless the joke but it was on kanye, not patrick and not your DH. I think people made far worse jokes on Michael Jackson when he died if you ask me!

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Posted by colette

Posted by MommaTo3Dogs1Boy

i'm just a little why this joke brought up your DH? It's very tasteless the joke but it was on kanye, not patrick and not your DH. I think people made far worse jokes on Michael Jackson when he died if you ask me!

My takeaway is that Michael was single so the jokes were ok.

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FIRST OF ALL. I NEVER MADE this to be about MY HUSBAND. NEVER WHAT I SAID was I know if i was Patrick's WIFE I WOULD BE VERY UPSET seeing that. AS FOR Michael I never saw or HEARD anything so disrespectful like this. For the comments I heard about Michael I did the SAME THING made people think. YES Michael was strange in things he did BUT HE WAS THAT LITTLE GIRLS DADDY.

Bottom LINE is you do not DISRESPECT THE DEAD no matter WHO they are. in my HONEST OPINION THAT IS WRONG JUST WRONG!


AGAIN MY HONEST OPINION. I am ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT

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Posted by leighla

Dude, I JUST lost my 35 year old husband to cancer and I wasn't offended.



ETA: I am a bit sensitive to the overuse of the word widow lately (football widow, etc.). So I guess we all have our thing.

I felt sensitive FOR you on that thread.

My mom was a widow at age 30 and I have always hated the term football widow or WOW widow.

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I honestly think this is way out of proportion because of a comment made on PS.

Everybody did not liked him or had to.

It was a joke.

MANY things offend people that you might not think is.

I cannot imagining me jumping at everyone's throat here on LIF because someone make a comment on bad IL's. And how lucky they should feel they have IL's. DS does not have any grandparents on DH side. I never met DH's mom. She passed when he was 13 and my FIL died tragically and suddenly 3 days after our HM.

You have to learn to let go. Otherwise, you will be a ball of stress never able to move on, stucked on every little details people say.

You cannot live like that.

You can't look for evil in everything.

We all have a different sense of humor, grief time and type.

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This is one of the silliest things I have ever seen on here..

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Posted by Sash

Posted by colette

Posted by MommaTo3Dogs1Boy

i'm just a little why this joke brought up your DH? It's very tasteless the joke but it was on kanye, not patrick and not your DH. I think people made far worse jokes on Michael Jackson when he died if you ask me!

My takeaway is that Michael was single so the jokes were ok.

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Woohhoo, laughed again

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ok, my last comment

WHAT is with the CAPS?



now CS can pull THIS THREAD if they so CHOOSE

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Posted by mrskparetta

ok, my last comment

WHAT is with the CAPS?



now CS can pull THIS THREAD if they so CHOOSE

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I think everyone on both sides of this discussion need to take a deep breath. I'm not taking sides, so hopefully people will read my ENTIRE post before quoting and ripping it apart.

First of all, have to get this out of the way - this isn't a free speech issue. I know that word was thrown around earlier, but unless LIF or Janet is the government, free speech as a defense is out. Even if it were a free speech issue, free speech doesn't protect you from criticism. Free speech actually protects criticism. Yes, you can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean someone else cannot criticize you for it.

Janet's allowed to voice her opinion - heck, even her disgust - over something. That doesn't take away anyone's right to say it. (And yes, it doesn't take away your right to disagree with her criticism or her approach to the criticism either)

I also don't think Janet meant to imply that she cornered the market on grief and losing a loved one. I really don't think she feels that she is the only one who has suffered a great loss in this life. Perhaps she wasn't expressing herself and clearly and eloquently as some of you are able to do, but this is what I got from her posts (and Janet, correct me if I am wrong) -- I think Janet was just trying to explain where SHE was coming from and where HER anger was coming from. She wasn't trying to say she is the only one entitled to an opinion. She wasn't saying she was the only one who suffered a great loss. She was trying to say "I feel this way because, having lost my DH, I empathize with Patrick's wife. I can imagine how upset she would feel seeing this." There's nothing wrong with that, and I don't think she meant to imply that her loss was greater than anyone else's.

I also don't think she was trying to say that the people posting jokes were trying to personally offended her because of her husband's death. I think she was just trying to explain why she feels the way she feels, and it was unnecessary to attack her for "making this all about Keith." I also think she was trying to explain why she does take things like this personally. (At the same time, Janet, you need to realize that stuff like this is NOT a personal attack on you or anyone else.)

At the same time, Janet, I think a post on the original joke thread stating that you think the joke is tasteless and inappropriate would have been enough to get your point across. I don't think it was necessary to start an entire post on the subject, as it comes off as REALLY passive aggressive. I'm a direct person and I cannot stand passive aggressive attitudes. If you have a problem with someone or something, be direct about it. This isn't just you, either. It happens all the time on LIF. There used to be TONS of posts like this on NFR that would drive me crazy (especially the ones that were basically inside jokes poking fun at posters on other threads). It just gets ridiculous and immature after a while. We GET that you are really offended by this and that you empathize with Patrick's wife... but it really comes off as passive aggressively attacking the people who posted the jokes to start a thread like this. No one meant to offend you personally. While you are entitled to your opinion, you need to understand that people will sometimes say things you disagree with -- and they are allowed to say those things. People will sometimes say offensive things, as long as its within the rules LIF sets / enforces, they are allowed to say those things. They aren't directed at you personally. By all means, speak up when you feel that way -- but the hysterical tone of this thread just really wasn't necessary. IIRC, people on that thread also said they thought the jokes were tasteless, so adding your comments there instead of here would have been more appropriate (and avoided a lot of unnecessary drama on the celeb board of all places).

I admit I laughed at the joke, but at the same time thought it was in poor taste. (I think it was Tilde who said something like, "I laughed. I'm totally going to hell." That was what I was thinking.) Yes, the joke was poking fun at Kanye, but it was also capitalizing off of someone's death. I can see both sides of it. I come from a family where we joke about pretty much everything. Few things are so reverent as to not be subject to a joke. We have lost too many family members to count and we try to laugh and celebrate their lives after their deaths, though we certainly mourn.

I think it's a sensitive subject, and I don't think anyone on either side should feel they shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion (or their jokes).

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Kara to some extent I agree with you but here's the thing...

It seems that whenever a post joking about death comes up Janet seems to take serious offense to it - personally offended and then proceeds to explain that she has lost someone very close to her...etc, etc, etc.

We all understand she lost her husband and that it is very tragic but that doesn't mean other people can't joke about the subject of death yet she seems to feel that way.

Heck, I made a post about thinking it was funny that Costco sold coffins and she took MAJOR offense to it. She got the thread pulled!! Talk about a head scratcher!!

So my point is that this is not the first time she's done this or reacted this way and I think while the posters of this board feel genuinely sorry for her loss are also a bit fed up with the notion that she's the only person to have experienced terrible loss.

Now whether she means to come off that way, I don't know. But more often than not, it seems like she does.

To my point these are her quotes from this thread...

To me (and seemingly others) the first quote seems to make this about her and the second quote she was just rude is saying that another posters opinion was "sick". So apprently those who don't agree with her opinion are sick...right.

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Posted by mrskparetta

Posted by Sash

Posted by colette

Posted by MommaTo3Dogs1Boy

i'm just a little why this joke brought up your DH? It's very tasteless the joke but it was on kanye, not patrick and not your DH. I think people made far worse jokes on Michael Jackson when he died if you ask me!

My takeaway is that Michael was single so the jokes were ok.

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Woohhoo, laughed again

love it ... "i think it is craig david"

oh, i mean, this is tasteless.