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justbeachy
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I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Yesterday I started feeling really dizzy and faint in class (8th period - we have 9). I called the main office from my room phone and told them that I wanted to get my temperature taken because I'm feeling really ill. My secretary told me to go now, but I said I would wait until 9th period to go because I co-teach with someone and I would be able to get it taken then when the class is covered.
So at the beginning of 9th period I ran across the street (our nurse is in the building across the street from us) and found out I had a temperature.
So I came back across feeling really dizzy and weak, and popped my head into the main office (not the principals office, but the main office). I told the secretary that I had a fever and she told me to "get the hell out of here now!" So I went down to my classroom, told my co-teacher who is my friend that I couldn't function. That I was dizzy and had a fever, and I grabbed my stuff. On my way out I told all of my 6th grade teachers I was leaving.
I never told the principal or any admin. I didn't know I had to (first year teacher here). Not only that but I wasn't thinking clearly.
I came to the doctor immediately. Sure enough, I have swine flu and am not allowed back at school. So I faxed my school the note from my doctor, and called to tell my secretary.
Apparently one of my 6th grade teachers told my principal that I left early.
Today I woke up with my 101 fever to 8 missed calls from my union rep, and other teachers. My principal is apparently seeking to take away my license for leaving early...or is at least threatening it.
I am sick to my stomach. I received satisfactory ratings all year. I am well-liked and respected in my school. How can this happen?! I'm sick with this flu and now I'm worrying that my job is going to be taken away. All for leaving 15 minutes early with the swine flu.
Are there any union reps out there?
What can I do?
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Yesterday afternoon I spoke with my principal. She started off by saying "First, I hope you feel better." Then she let into me about school policy, how angry she is with me, and how she - if made to give an answer right now - would seek to take away my license. But she told me that she needed to think about it. It was if my health and my well being were irrelevant.
She essentially was dangling my whole career and future in front of me, while I'm at home with a fever and the swine flu. She then said "don't think about it until tomorrow. Feel better." At this point I'm bawling on the phone, essentially begging her for my job, and explaining how I've never done anything wrong this year. She tells me to "stop crying" and not think about it. I laughed at her. How am I supposed to concentrate on getting better when you can't even TELL ME if I will ever be able to teach in NYC DOE again until TOMORROW!?
I'm speechless. How someone can actually be ok with doing this to someone is beyond me. I'm just really going to focus on getting better and hold onto my belief in karma.
And I wish there was more of an underlying story....but I have honestly never had a problem with her until i mentioned I was leaving at the end of the year. It's just really erratic and bizzare.
Oh, and did I mentioned that she actually CALLED MY HOUSE AT 10:45 LAST NIGHT!? I'm JUST getting to finally lay down and go to sleep and she calls me?! Needless to say I didn't answer.
So at the end of it all, I get a text this morning from my union rep saying that I'm just getting a letter in my file. She isn't going to take my license. Can't wait to write the rebuttal for that one.
But I just can't believe the leadership style at my school. Scare someone who is in tears, break them down as much as possible, and then essentially tell them that you are doing them a favor by just giving a warning. Unreal.
Thanks for all the support.
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Posted 6/3/09 12:30 PM |
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beautyq115
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Not a UFT rep but a city teacher.
You need to get on the phone with the UFT borough office for whatever borough you work in ASAP!
First of all shame on that colleague for saying something-non of their damn business!
Secondly-Did the nurse right out some sort of report about you being sick or does she keep a log that you were seen...I would get a copy of that.
Is it unfortunate that you could not speak to an administrator but did the secretary relay the message? Have you had issues with your principal before?
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Posted 6/3/09 1:08 PM |
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justbeachy
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Hi - yes the nurses office confirmed that I had my temp taken and it was a fever.
I have not had problems with my principal. My secretary did relay the message.
However, I did tell my principal that I would not be coming back next year about a month ago.
I have been dealing with my UFT rep all morning. He seems to think she wont do anything because she is already in a lot of trouble with the uft.
Can't you just SEE the NY Post headline?! Teacher with great standing fired for leaving 15 minutes early after confirming fever and swine flu?
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Posted 6/3/09 1:21 PM |
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beautyq115
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Posted by SupaBonBon
Hi - yes the nurses office confirmed that I had my temp taken and it was a fever.
I have not had problems with my principal. My secretary did relay the message.
However, I did tell my principal that I would not be coming back next year about a month ago.
I have been dealing with my UFT rep all morning. He seems to think she wont do anything because she is already in a lot of trouble with the uft.
Can't you just SEE the NY Post headline?! Teacher with great standing fired for leaving 15 minutes early after confirming fever and swine flu?
Are you going to another NYC school or leaving NYC altogether? Just make sure that she doesn't try to screw you in your new school.
Is your UFT rep reliable? Just wondering because in my old school mine was NOT and I had to get a lot of help and info from the UFT offices.
WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN!!!!!!
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Posted 6/3/09 1:27 PM |
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justbeachy
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Going to another NYC school - I accepted another job from a school, the budget for that school then came up short (after I already told my current principal I was leaving), and now I'm left without a school...yet I'm still leaving my current school. Another story within itself.
I plan on speaking with someone higher up in the UFT. Our rep isn't the best, but he is ok. Im going to call the borough office.
I'm just so scared. I worked my whole life to do this and now it might all be gone because I left 20 minutes early with swine flu?!
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Posted 6/3/09 1:33 PM |
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browneyedgirl
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
i think you need to apologize to your principal that you didn't know procedure, were told to get the hell out of the office when you were trying to explain what was going on, and weren't thinking clearly due to fever.
i'm not doubting you, but how could your doctor possibly know you have swine flu? swine flu has to be confirmed by (i think it's the ) CDC. it is an outside agency and can't be diagnosed by a doctor. we just had a seminar on this last wed--many doctors are telling people they have swine flu but UNLESS your blood is sent out, it can't be confirmed. so you probably have regular flu, or might have swine flu but it needs to be confirmed.
regardless, feel better! you made a mistake because you didn't know better. i think if you own up to it, and your principal is a decent human being, it should be okay. and shame on that teacher for ratting you out--that's terrible and i hope you find out who it is and confront them when you go back.
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Posted 6/3/09 3:06 PM |
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beachgirl13
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Wow, that is just ridiculous. I can't believe that teacher would do that. What is wrong with people? I hope you clear this up.
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Posted 6/3/09 4:24 PM |
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Unbelieveable- were you supposed to stay, sick and contaigious?
Threaten to go to the media too.
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Posted 6/3/09 4:31 PM |
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PennyCat
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
This is just UNBELIEVABLE !
You definitely CANNOT put up with this! Document everything, good thing your union rep is already involved!
Honestly, I think the secretary is the one who is at fault. She is the one who told you to go home and she should know the policies! When I went home early one day because I felt and looked REALLY sick, my secretary told me to go in and speak to my principal before leaving.
Feel better!
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Posted 6/3/09 6:04 PM |
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RegalBeagle
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
First off, i am so sorry you are sick and I hope you feel better soon.
*** is wrong with your principal?
The mayor is telling people to stay home. I would talk to your ruft rep. I don't think you have a thing to worry about.
I hope it all works out.
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Posted 6/3/09 8:00 PM |
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nicrae
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
The is terrible. I teach in NYC too and we don't have to tell the principal we are leaving. We go to the secretary and sign out.... Do you specifically know what the procedure is in your school for leaving early? I would fight that and you UFT rep seems like he needs to get a clue.
Feel Better
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Posted 6/3/09 9:39 PM |
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donegal419
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
wow---the bull **** some of you city teachers have to deal with us absolutely sinful! i feel terrible for you...
you were screamed at to get out of the office and you felt like you were going to pass out... what were you supposed to do? sit there and wait? ridiculous... i would talk to the UFT and see what you can do. I would (although she doesn't deserve it) talk to the principal and say you didn't know the procedure in this circumstance as you were told to leave. also you have a fellow staff member (i.e. nurse) that can verify your illness and your class was covered. i don't see the big deal.
in my school, my principal probably would have driven me to the doctor. that woman should be ashamed of herself for treating a staff member that way!
Feel better... and i would be glad that i am not working for that be-otch next year.... i am so mad for you!
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Posted 6/3/09 10:39 PM |
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PennyCat
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me
Just wanted to respond again and say, I think I am next on the teacher w/ swine flu statistic! Woke up with the chills at 4:30am and currently have a fever.
If it's not swine, it's definitely something! Calling in sick today....... and it's such a stupid day to have to take a sick day too since all we have to do is sit at meetings all day....
Instead, I'm going to the doctor.
I hope we both feel better soon!
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Posted 6/4/09 6:30 AM |
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justbeachy
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
update above
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Posted 6/4/09 11:52 AM |
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SJSM
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Posted by donegal419
wow---the bull **** some of you city teachers have to deal with us absolutely sinful! i feel terrible for you...
you were screamed at to get out of the office and you felt like you were going to pass out... what were you supposed to do? sit there and wait? ridiculous... i would talk to the UFT and see what you can do. I would (although she doesn't deserve it) talk to the principal and say you didn't know the procedure in this circumstance as you were told to leave. also you have a fellow staff member (i.e. nurse) that can verify your illness and your class was covered. i don't see the big deal.
in my school, my principal probably would have driven me to the doctor. that woman should be ashamed of herself for treating a staff member that way!
Feel better... and i would be glad that i am not working for that be-otch next year.... i am so mad for you!
________________________________LONG ISLAND IS JUST AS BAD, EVEN WORSE! IN MY EXPERIENCE .
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Posted 6/4/09 12:19 PM |
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SupportACop
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Posted by SJSM
Posted by donegal419
wow---the bull **** some of you city teachers have to deal with us absolutely sinful! i feel terrible for you...
you were screamed at to get out of the office and you felt like you were going to pass out... what were you supposed to do? sit there and wait? ridiculous... i would talk to the UFT and see what you can do. I would (although she doesn't deserve it) talk to the principal and say you didn't know the procedure in this circumstance as you were told to leave. also you have a fellow staff member (i.e. nurse) that can verify your illness and your class was covered. i don't see the big deal.
in my school, my principal probably would have driven me to the doctor. that woman should be ashamed of herself for treating a staff member that way!
Feel better... and i would be glad that i am not working for that be-otch next year.... i am so mad for you!
________________________________LONG ISLAND IS JUST AS BAD, EVEN WORSE! IN MY EXPERIENCE .
Don't know which school you may be reffering to but there are great city school and horrible ones..same on LI and probabyly all over the country .I work on LI and my Principal would have prolly had the AP drive me...just the way our school is
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Posted 6/4/09 12:25 PM |
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PennyCat
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Just read your update, and WOW
She DEFINITELY sounds like she was on a power trip!!!!!!!!! What a cold woman to say those things to you... especially to "not think about it till tomorrow"! Honestly, you should be RELIEVED that you are getting out of that school! Definitely write a rebuttal to that letter in your file! What a disgrace! This woman has some nerve!
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Posted 6/4/09 12:30 PM |
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MC09
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
wow! so sorry to hear you're going through this! can she even do that? take away your license?? for being sick no less?? that's completely unjust! sounds like she's bitter that you're leaving and has to find a way to "get you".... and I can see why you're leaving!! good luck!
I hope you're feeling better!
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Posted 6/4/09 1:38 PM |
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drpepper318
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Just read your update.
Your principal is a real b*tch.
Good thing you're leaving at the end of the year & won't have to deal w/ her anymore!
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Posted 6/4/09 4:06 PM |
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
This is a disgraceful situation..get the union involved and get the school policy in writing....
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Posted 6/4/09 4:12 PM |
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happytobreathe
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Sadly- I can believe it. It is as if no one has a heart. I hope you feel better!
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Posted 6/4/09 5:06 PM |
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SummerMom
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
First of all - take good care of yourself and I hope you get well soon!
I'm confused as to what the problem the principal had with you. She threatened to take away your teaching license for... what, exactly? You left one class for one period in the care of another licensed teacher, right? If you left them with an aide or a student teacher, that would be bad, but with a licensed teacher? So the problem is that you didn't sign the sign-out log before quickly going home with a highly contagious disease? Craziness.
Your principal was just pulling a power trip on you. When I worked in the City, our principal would do stuff like that all the time, to keep us teachers in line and show us who's boss. It was all about keeping us in constant fear so that we wouldn't oppose him and his crazy ideas.
It's almost summer. You'll start to feel better really soon. You still have your job and as you said, you're well-liked and well-respected there. Everything's gonna be ok.
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Posted 6/4/09 5:31 PM |
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Athee
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
WOW!!! I just wanted to say I hope you feel better!!!! Nobody should have to go through that
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Posted 6/4/09 6:24 PM |
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jewels
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
Posted by DavaDay
First of all - take good care of yourself and I hope you get well soon!
I'm confused as to what the problem the principal had with you. She threatened to take away your teaching license for... what, exactly? You left one class for one period in the care of another licensed teacher, right? If you left them with an aide or a student teacher, that would be bad, but with a licensed teacher? So the problem is that you didn't sign the sign-out log before quickly going home with a highly contagious disease? Craziness.
ITA - you did not leave the kids alone
sounds like a bitter principal who is annoyed that you are leaving the school and is trying to intimidate you
feel better and when you are well you can write a great rebuttal for the dumb letter in your file - get the union rep to help you write it
ETA - the secretary was wrong in telling you to leave - for all you knew the principal told her to tell you that. she should have asked if you wanted her to get an administrator to ask if you could leave. it's not really her fault but it didn't help.
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Posted 6/4/09 6:29 PM |
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CallaLily
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Re: I have swine flu and might get fired...?! Please help me *UPDATE*
She sounds a lot like my principal...what an a$$hole
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Posted 6/4/09 8:11 PM |
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